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wOw's Beijing Olympics Blog | 08/14/2008 10:30 am

Who Says the Chinese Aren't Phelps Fans? by Junling Cui

By Junling Cui
© AP

Editor’s Note: Meet Junling Cui, our exclusive wOw Woman on the scene in Beijing. For the Olympics, wowOwow goes right to the source for an insider’s perspective on the news coming out of Beijing. Junling will be reporting from both the women’s perspective and from the point of view of a Chinese national, on all things Olympics — from the athletes’ stories to the social impact of the games.

Day Four

Pssst, this just in: China likes a winner (even if they’re not Chinese).

My American husband told me today that there has been some press and blog chatter about how impolite Chinese fans are being at these games. We’re cheering, evidently, too loudly, as our athletes win in weight lifting, gymnastics, diving, etc., and not cheering enough for their competitors — or even, occasionally, applauding when those competitors screw up.

Let me be the first to admit that this is China, not Japan. Just as a point of reference for those of you who may be dialing into China for the first time, we don’t do polite too well here. Not yet, anyway. Maybe it’ll get better in time — lots and lots of time — but for now, the mad scrum that most Chinese lines are (though “Chinese line” may be an oxymoron, because we hate to stand in line) is the reality. People pouring into subway cars before letting disembarking passengers out — that’s China. So now, we don’t do polite well. That’s first. Second, let me also break some news here by admitting that the Chinese are happy when we win, and not so happy when we lose. So sue us.

Having said that, let me also add this: China likes Michael Phelps; he’s becoming more popular by the day, as he chalks up win after win. One of my Beijing best friends, schoolteacher Miao Zheng, says she’s getting up in the morning and watching his races and cheering him on. "He doesn’t seem arrogant, and he’s obviously one of the greatest swimmers ever. He’s setting world record after world record. It’s exciting to watch." I canvassed a bunch of people today — friends and strangers alike here in Beijing, and all were very aware of Phelps and what he’s trying to do. And if he gets to the point where he’s going for his twelfth gold medal, the Chinese fans in the Water Cube will be cheering him on.
My theory about this is pretty simple: Most Chinese, like most Americans, love a winner. There’s a bandwagon effect that’s in play here with Phelps, and it’s taken hold. Would it be different if China had serious competitors in swimming — someone who was going head-to-head with Phelps? Of course it would! But for the most part, China picked all the sports the U.S. wasn’t very good at — and which we ARE good at — to compete in this Olympics. So we’re winning our medals, and you’re winning yours. But when it comes to an exceptional performance like Michael Phelps’s — which is way beyond what any Chinese competitor is doing — most of us are cheering with admiration, just like you. Seriously, the government might think this is the new cold war in terms of sports, but most of my friends don’t.

11 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

phyllis Doyle Pepe
I didn’t sleep as well as I should have last night and maybe that’s the reason I can’t fathom what Ms Cui is trying to convey in her second paragraph. At first she claims the Chinese “don’t do polite well” but later she says, “So now, we do polite well.” Can someone who is wide awake help me out here. Also I’m wondering why the issue of under-age are not being addressed –––some of those little girls weigh in at 75 pounds.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 08/14/2008 10:06 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Correction: I left out the word gymnasts after under-age. See? Sleep matters!
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 08/14/2008 10:10 am
Bonnie Oliver
Thank you Junling Cui for your reporting direct from Beijing. However, I know of no one who is complaining about the Chinese fans being too enthusiastic about their own athletes. On the contrary, from what I have seen the Chinese fans are wonderful; and they certainly have a right to cheer and be proud of their team. Michael Phelps is a wonder and I am sure that many Americans are glad that he is receiving accolades from around the world for his incredible feats at the swimming venue. But Americans here are also pleased to see the competition in the gymnastics arena and the diving pool where the Chinese are doing so well. I haven’t heard of any ill feeling toward anyone in Beijing and if the New York Times is reporting otherwise, then the discomfort they are writing about is not being viewed by the television watchers. It has been a wonderful event and the Chinese should be very proud. I am also proud of how well the President and Laura Bush were received. And for the President to bring his father with him to China was a compliment that the Chinese people recognized for they do remember Bush 41 from the days when he was the American Envoy to China. President Bush even recalls when he was able to ride his bicycle around Tiananmen Square. It is my hope that the connection between America and China will not be diminished with a new Administration. As President Bush said in an interview with NBC, that while America continues to have concerns with the human rights issue in China, we should never stop listening to the Chinese nor cease our promotion for a more open China.
By Bonnie Oliver on 08/14/2008 10:13 am
Lady Gator
Bonnie….Not only is Michael a phenomenal athlete —he also has a wonderful winning personality. My neice thinks he is a ‘stud muffin’ (Her words). LOL Thank you for your post. I always look forward to reading your wise and wonderful views. They are so close to my feelings. You seem to always find the right words. Thank you for expressing them so well.
By Lady Gator on 08/14/2008 2:11 pm
Bonnie Oliver
Lady G - Awww, you are so nice. Have you heard that James Blake beat Roger Federer in tennis this afternoon? What a coup! James also has a wonderful winning personality. I hope he medals…..could be a major breakthrough for his career. There are so many human interest stories coming out of Beijing like the story of the Korean who fell into the pool in Athens and was disqualified from competing and was able to come back in Beijing to win gold. Wonderful. Michael Phelps - a “stud muffin”? Laughing right along with you. He is just amazing.
By Bonnie Oliver on 08/14/2008 5:02 pm
Babette dYveine
Well! Finally an article about the Olympics! I’m getting so tired of reading about John Edwards and his affair. I’ve become a Michael Phelps groupie. I haven’t followed much of the other Olympic events, but I won’t miss one of his races. I guess I identify with his mother, since I have two sons of my own (neither of whom is athletic). I can actually feel her pride in her beloved boy. Also — I really feel bad about the little girl who “wasn’t cute enough” and had to sing while someone lip synched for her. Personally, I thought she was adorable.
By Babette dYveine on 08/14/2008 12:39 pm
Willow K
I don’t think most of us think anything about the Chinese cheering for the Chinese athletes—we Americans would be doing the same if the games were here in the U.S. Thanks for the reminder of Chinese “lines”—I spent a month in China once, visiting a friend, who taught me to have “big elbows” meaning stick your elbows out to help prevent people cutting in front of you in line. I found the Chinese very friendly and down-to-earth. Don’t lose that for “politeness”.
By Willow K on 08/14/2008 1:14 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
I’ve come back hoping someone would have answered my questions or at least acknowledged them. No one has. It’s a little like being elbowed or maybe just being ignored.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 08/14/2008 5:20 pm
C A Rose
Hi phyllis, I find our Chinese Blogger in Beijing to be rather flip in alot of her comments. I know the question of age of the Chinese Female Gymnasts has shown up in alot of the television broadcasting. I think the fact that the American women won Gold and Silver in the Individual All-Around Competition yesterday afternoon diffused that for now. For a nation steeped in tradition and formalities, an excuse that they don’t do polite very well is a piss-poor excuse. I found the Chinese on the street just sort of wisk you away with the crowd, so you better want to go where they are headed. I understand that people around the Olympic Green have been ordered not to spit on the sidewalk in public - men and women alike have developed this bad habit. But, with air quality as bad as it is, I would want to get it out of my system too. I just think it looks vulgar. Did anyone see the news broadcast by the British Journalist who was arrested and later released while filming a free-tibet demonstration. It was pretty nasty. I am not surprised by the behavior…they have a whole mass of people that are out doing nothing but reporting anything they see taking place against the gov’t rules. What can I say? It’s a Communist country that has only recently found ‘new money’ and have become the ‘nouveau riche.’
By C A Rose on 08/15/2008 3:49 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Bless you, C A, your response says much and perhaps much more than meets the eye if you follow my meaning (re: other posters) So, yes, you,too, find Ms Chui somewhat cavalier in her reporting. Maybe I’m expecting something deeper from her and that’s not what she’s here to regale us with. I am extremely interested in China and their formula for “market yes, democracy no”; it continues to intrigue. I did see the piece about the British journalist: another example of all the chinks in the China. After the Tibet debacle 12 Chinese intellectuals presented a list they wanted China to consider and hopefully implement. It was ignored. I don’t remember if any of the 12 actually live in China because they probably would have been jailed for insubordination.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 08/15/2008 8:12 am
Dona Howlett
I think the Olympics are marvelous…………I Tevo everthing so I don’t miss the improtant things I want to see. My favorites are the swimming and the gymnastics……….so this week has been fabulous. I love hearing the roar of the Chinese fans when their athletes win…………. Regarless of the politics China is hosting a marvelous Olympics. The Opening was beyond belief…………
By Dona Howlett on 08/14/2008 10:44 pm