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Politics | 11/11/2008 9:30 am

Michelle Obama Asks Hillary for Advice; Clinton Seems Eager to Help

By The Staff at wowOwow.com
© AP

Michelle Obama wasn’t always a big fan of Hillary Clinton, but since her husband won the White House, the soon-to-be First Lady called up the New York senator for pointers on protecting her two young daughters from the media.

“Michelle may not have loved the senator, but she always respected how the Clintons raised Chelsea,” a person familiar with Clinton’s end of the call, told Politico. “They need to talk. There just aren’t too many people who have shared that kind of experience.”

An aide briefed on Obama’s part of the conversation said she was “grateful” for Clinton’s “pointers” on “raising children in the public eye.”

It has to be somewhat awkward – the woman who had high hopes that she would be occupying the Oval Office now giving tips to the woman married to the man who took that dream away from her.

Politico says these tensions have created a weird relationship between Clinton and the Obamas – warm on personal matters, warier on political ones and apparently still frigid when it comes to the still-unresolved issue of Clinton’s $7.9 million campaign debt still owed to vendors, which the president-elect vowed on the campaign trail to help reduce.

“Sen. Clinton did not just check the box for Obama — she went all out for him, which says an awful lot about how important she felt this election was, what kind of character she has and the positive state of their relationship,” said Chris Lehane, an aide to former White House hopefuls John Kerry and Al Gore.

A half-dozen Clinton insiders told Politico they are disappointed that Obama’s massive fundraising operation hasn’t reciprocated. “She killed herself for them, did a hundred events, went anywhere they pointed – so it’s disappointing they aren’t helping … But it’s not a big deal at this point,” said one longtime Clinton aide.

Click here to read the entire Politico story.

But Clinton seems eager to mentor Michelle Obama, who reached out to the former First Lady six weeks ago for advice on how to provide some sense of normality for her young daughters, Sasha, 7, and Malia, 10.

Lisa Caputo, who served as press secretary to Clinton when she was First Lady, and was deputy assistant to President Bill Clinton, told CNN’s Larry King Monday night that while Michelle Obama may seek the help of others, such as Clinton, the new First Lady will redefine her own role in the White House.

“I think she’s very fond of Michelle, has an enormous amount of respect for her, thinks she’s brilliant and has such admiration for the way she’s raised those two beautiful girls, who you can just see they are the product of great parenting,” Caputo said of Clinton. “I think Michelle Obama will bring to the role her own definition [of First Lady]. She should. She will be true to herself in that role, just the way previous First Ladies have been. And I really applaud her for saying that she’s going to be mom-in-chief, because I think that tells the country where her priorities are and what her values are, which are on her family.”

Caputo also said she remembers the Clintons’ first visit to the White House once Bill Clinton was elected.

“I will never forget driving up on the South Lawn of the White House with then-incoming First Lady Hillary Clinton. And I turned to her in the limousine and I said, ‘Oh, my gosh, Hillary, I have sweaty palms,’” Caputo said.

“And we were greeted by Mrs. Bush. And I remember getting out of the car and just — it was just so overwhelming because the White House press corps were all there. They were shouting questions. And I turned and I looked at Hillary and we both said, ‘We’re guests here.’ And it was just an extraordinary moment to go into the White House.”

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Tee Zee
So you know her personally?
By Tee Zee on 11/11/2008 4:35 pm
Irish Eyes NY
Yes, I do. DO you know MO personally??
By Irish Eyes NY on 11/11/2008 4:51 pm
Tee Zee
No I don’t.
By Tee Zee on 11/11/2008 5:03 pm
Tee Zee
ALL THAT IS NEEDED FOR EVIL TO SUCCEED IS, THAT DECENT HUMAN BEINGS DO NOTHING’. (Edmund Burke)
By Tee Zee on 11/11/2008 10:44 pm
Okpulot Taha
Deburca Obj comments, “…you are suggesting the Obama children are fair game for the media?” I am not suggesting this. No need, this is a known fact. Our mainstream media will sniff after the Obama children like a Blue Tick hound chasing after a bitch in heat. I would like to think you are not so naive to not realize our mainstream media is completely without ethics and moral values. Our mainstream media could not care less who is hurt by their activities. I do not agree with this, find this repugnant, but I am not so naive to claim the Obama children will not be targets of our mainstream media. This is simply reality. This will happen despite being very wrongful behavior. Two notions. The Obama parents are to be commended for working at protecting their children. Michelle and Barack are also to accept responsibility for thrusting their children under the political limelight. Exposing their children to scrutiny by our mainstream media is a freewill choice made by Michelle and Barack. They are accountable and have no right to complain. Reminds me of Barack shouting, “Leave my wife alone!” He is displaying weakness, is displaying sexism. Michelle is out campaigning for her husband, she is fair game. Barack enjoys no right to complain about his wife becoming a fair game target. Their children are not fair game. Their children should be off limits. However, we know this will not happen. Our mainstream media will be all over those two girls and their parents must accept responsibility for this. Okpulot Taha Choctaw Nation
By Okpulot Taha on 11/11/2008 1:11 pm
Mac Bee
From the readings here one could be forgiven for thinking that this last election happened months ago. I’m sure Mr.Obama has more pressing things on his mind at the moment. Why is it that people only believe what the hear from the media when it jibs with their way of thinking. I’d prefer that he concentrate on getting the country back up and running first and then deal with whatever next. I doubt that the Clintons will get kicked out into the street for non payment of debts. So quite frankly I think they can wait. I don’t find it sexist for a man to stand up to protect his wife from any sort of threat. I’m sure she can take care of herself just fine, but its nice to have back up. He has the right as a citizen of The U. S. A. to complain. I think its a shame that people are hoping for him to do bad, just so they can be right. How very selfish people can be.
By Mac Bee on 11/11/2008 3:10 pm
Okpulot Taha
Mac Bee comments on sexism, “I don’t find it sexist for a man to stand up to protect his wife from any sort of threat.” Perhaps this is a cultural difference. Michelle being grilled by our mainstream media is not a threat and I expect her to deal with this on her own. Barack should keep his mouth shut and Michelle should open hers to handle whatever comes along. Barack hollering, “Leave my wife alone” is both a display of personal weakness by him and a display of a lack of confidence in his wife, which is sexism. His wife is or was campaigning, she is expected to deal whatever issues develop, completely on her own. Mac Bee adds, “I think its a shame that people are hoping for him to do bad, just so they can be right.” What of those of us who hope Obama will do right but know he will most likely not do right? Is this having an opinion different than yours is shameful behavior? I would suggest a lack of tolerance for diversity in opinion on your part is the true shameful behavior. A true to life story to exemplify how a man should behave. My husband has very long hair, reaches his butt. When we go over to Del Rio, Texas, to party at a cowboy honky-tonk bar, I will not allow my husband to go into a bar unless he allows me to braid his hair, pin his hair on top of his head, the firmly press his cowboy hat on his head, “You will not take your hat off for any reason. Do you understand me?” Bad enough I am an obvious Choctaw Indian. We are treating a couple of girls, a French lesbian pair who are now decades long intimate friends of ours, treating our girlfriends to a cowboy bar in Del Rio, to two step and to swap lies about rodeo riding, to get tanked and to enjoy a fun private night together in our hotel room. We head on into this honky-tonk bar filled with cowgirls and cowboys, all having a good time, drinking beer, drinking whiskey, dancing and carrying on. My husband and I get out and two step, great fun. Time comes to introduce our girlfriends to the Texas Two Step. I grab one of our girlfriends and we head for the sawdust covered dance floor. My husband, a timeless cowboy gentleman, takes off his cowboy hat and says to our other girlfriend, “Ma’am, I would be delighted if you would have a dance with me.” His politeness is remembered better than my admonishment to not remove his hat. Band keeps playing but a hush falls over this bar as my husband’s long braided ponytail falls from his head then swishes back and forth over his rearend. This is not good and most of the military hair cut cowboys take to staring at him, along with a bunch of cowgirls but for a different reason; they find my boy to be hot. This makes all even worse. I am not too worried, my husband is not too many years out of a combat tour of duty in Vietnam and he is an amateur boxer. I figure he can take down two or three cowboys without too much injury. However, soon he is surrounded by a half dozen or more and comments are being made about his hair, not friendly comments either. We are a team. We look out for each other. We are equally capable. I must act or my husband will suffer. I motion to our girlfriends, “head for the door” then right quick pull my T-shirt over my head and off exposing my bare breasts, then take to whooping and hollering and dancing like a drunk Indian girl is expected to do. However, I am not drunk; I am cold and calculating. What cowboy can resist a jiggling, wiggling and giggling bare breasted buxom brown skinned drunk Indian girl? None. My husband knows a diversion. He makes sure our girlfriends follow him and all three blend into the crowd then sneak out the bar entrance. Is this wrongful of my husband to lead our girlfriends out, make good their escape and leave me in this bar alone? Heck no. My husband has confidence in me and knows I can deal with whatever happens. He knows I will be coming out of this bar shortly, when safe to do so. I expect Barack Obama to display the same confidence in his woman, rather than holler, “Leave my wife alone!” If my husband ever hollered that, I would fist bust his lip instantly. Okpulot Taha Choctaw Nation
By Okpulot Taha on 11/11/2008 5:06 pm
Brooklyn Gal
So who is Purl Gurl or are you both sharing the same name?
By Brooklyn Gal on 11/11/2008 6:26 pm
Okpulot Taha
Carol asks, “So who is Purl Gurl…?” “Purl Gurl” is my decade plus long web moniker. Many years back I was an avid Perl programmer - Purl Gurl. There is a story behind my Purl Gurl moniker, of course. Always a story in my life, lots of stories. Randal Schwartz is probably the best known Perl programmer, been around for decades, written many books on Perl; a rather famous man. Larry Wall originally created Perl but Randal placed Perl on the programming map. At one time, Perl was THE programming language. Long back, I do not remember, maybe a decade back I elected to participate in the Perl community. I joined up in a USENET discussion group which discusses Perl programming. Perl 4 was out back then, a very sleek and slim version of Perl. A new version came out, Perl 5 which is “bloatware” - slow, clunky, buggy, not worth a hoot’s ass. I took to critique of Perl 5 suggesting this new version would lead to the death of Perl as a programming language. You think Obama cultists are zealots, my word, Perl programmers are absolute fascist like fanatics. They so much wanted to be rid of me, those white collar professionals took to threats of violence, threats of death and most often, some of the most vile racial slurs I have ever suffered. One of those nutcases, and a few friends, took to stalking our family, broke into our home, killed our cat and committed many other crimes. A restraining order was won, crimes continued, police became more involved, TRW security became involved citing national security because of my obtaining a copy of this boy’s security pass. I refused to provide explanation how I came into possession of his TRW security pass to photocopy. In time, this boy was tossed into jail, along with our family bankrupting him and ruining any chance of his having a decent career, certainly not at TRW. Eventually, an incident took place. This nutcase boy was physically assaulted, had the poop beat out of him. He fled Southern California and now is reported to live in the Mojave Desert region. We know nothing about his receiving a vicious beating although this smacks of Oklahoma swift justice. During this period, famous Randal Schwartz took to trying to have me banished from USENET which is a major no-no; USENET is founded upon Freedom of Speech and this is protected with a fierceness. I used a “munged” (fake) email address, purlgurl@purlgurl.net, to avoid being spammed. I used this address when publishing articles about Perl programming. Randal purchased and registered “purlgurl.net” in an attempt to have my internet service provider terminate my account for using an email address at “his” purlgurl.net which was in name only - never on the web. This caused quite the uproar in the Perl community. Randal fell into great disfavor for attempting to censor USENET. Eventually he apologized, offered to sell me purlgurl.net for a dollar and invited me to meet with him in Los Angeles for lunch. I declined all three offers and continued with my commentary Schwartz and Wall were killing Perl programming, were making a mistake. The very day the registration on purlgurl.net expired, I purchased the domain name, paid a cable company to bring in a trunk line to our home, set up two machines and created purlgurl.net right here at home. I run a webserver, an email server and a DNS server right here in our house. My “purlgurl@purlgurl.net” email address became officially mine and my moniker, “Purl Gurl”, became the most famous of people within the Perl programming community; I am known around our world, not famous rather infamous. Many compare me to Keven Mitnick but I am far from being in his class; he is a true urban legend. Perl programming is and was destroyed by Schwartz and Wall. This language is rarely used these days having become so huge, so bloated and so slow. What I wrote about Perl programming a decade back came to past; Perl is a dead programming language. Today, I can enter a Perl community discussion forum, write “BOO!” and instantly a barroom brawl breaks out which lasts for weeks. This is Purl Gurl, the best known and most infamous Perl programmer of history. I will continue to use my well known moniker for life. By-the-by, almost a year back I was banished from the Barack Obama campaign website, along with some incidental websites, because of my well written and very powerful critiques of Obama. This is Randal Schwartz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randal_L._Schwartz Ain’t ya glad you asked about Purl Gurl? Okpulot Taha Choctaw Nation
By Okpulot Taha on 11/11/2008 8:18 pm
Emcye Edwards
It was cute to see Laura casually wipe her hand on her orange dress as she waited for the Obama’s limo to pull up to the White House. It seems outgoing get sweaty palms, too. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/obama-bush-meeting-white_n_1426…
By Emcye Edwards on 11/11/2008 9:38 pm
starry Nite
You are very mistaken, Laura is the classiest first lady that was ever in the WH. And I mean EVER! By Irish Eyes NY on 11/11/2008 5:15 pm Irish Eyes- I agree that Laura Bush is what I call a “genteel southern lady” and I like her. She seems kind. A lot of people say she is “blah or bland”. Jackie was charming but with a bit of flash and of course she had the young children . She loved fashion as does Michele Obama. Women can be charming and classy in different ways. I think people thought the Kennedy white house years were exciting. Women still copy Jackie O’s style.
By starry Nite on 11/11/2008 11:15 pm
C Hardy
I think its pretty sad that the Obama girls won’t be able to attend a public school…I feel it is safer if they attend a private school, which of course the Obama’s will get “put down” for…There is nothing wrong with Public Schools but for the First Children of the US, its just not the safest place for them to be…I mean children are mean and to have secret service at a school that is a distraction espeically when other kids aren’t use to it. I am not saying that the private school age kids are use to it but I feel for safety reasons the Obama girls are best in private schools. I think Laura Bush and Michelle Obama are classy in their own ways…There is no comparison of any first lady, they are all different. I dont see how you can compare Michelle to Jackie O or Laura to Hillary…I just dont see any comparison. I think each First Lady does what she can to make life easier for her, her husband and their kids, if there are any. I think Michelle can get advice from anyone she chooses…Whoever she feels will give her the best advice for her family, then so be it.
By C Hardy on 11/12/2008 8:32 am
starry Nite
By C Hardy on 11/12/2008 9:32 am The Obama girls will go to private school just like everyone else. You keep harping on this point. Do you want people to “put them down”? I think it bothers you to have Michelle Obama compared to Jackie O. I hope you have changed- I remember your posts when you were C.O. You were mean spirited toward the Obama.s . You were fearfull about violence after the election etc. On the surface it sounds like you are supportive but are you really?
By starry Nite on 11/12/2008 11:14 pm