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Joni Evans | 06/23/2008 1:40 pm

What Michelle Obama, Cindy McCain Can Learn From Margaret Thatcher's Husband

Joni Evans
A few of us wOwers were invited by CBSNews.com to have breakfast at New York City’s Four Seasons Restaurant last week. Here’s a clip of what Joan Ganz Cooney, Lesley Stahl, Joan Juliet Buck, Judith Martin (on the phone) and I had to say about Michelle Obama’s forthcoming challenge in her campaign for the First Lady. Watch to see as surprising tips from history (Joan Cooney on what Mrs. Obama could learn from Denis Thatcher) were revealed.

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Josie Sullivan
Lovely Ladies! Thank you for letting us vicariously sit in on your lunch. I didn’t know that Margaret was like that to Denis…poor Denis! I really want Obama to win and I think that Michelle needs to take a back seat, take care of the kids, and don’t talk to strangers. What ever it takes to win at this point; however, I draw the line on the sleeveless dresses. I stand by my previous statement that she has a right to bare arms.
By Josie Sullivan on 06/23/2008 1:30 pm
Brooklyn Gal
I’m with you Josie! Bare those arms!!! That dress was sold out in a matter of days. I would not like to be Denis either. Talk about a castrating moment. Michelle should do what she has been trying to do, which is to soften her image. It’s a no-win situation. Now here’s to the “Ladies That Lunch”; Thank you for letting us share in your conversation. It was nice seeing it for a change.
By Brooklyn Gal on 06/23/2008 3:32 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Here’s to the ladies that lunch––––I’ll drink to that!
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 06/23/2008 5:31 pm
Chef Zee
I loved this style of sharing. The topic is becoming a bit tiresome, but joining the WOWers for lunch was a real treat. I especially like the spontaneity of a conversation served up “al a minute”.
By Chef Zee on 06/23/2008 1:46 pm
Josie Sullivan
Chef Zee- It’s fine to see you up on the board! Being a political year, we are probably in for a lot more.
By Josie Sullivan on 06/23/2008 2:15 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Ditto, but I expect some good eats along with your entreats, ye of all kitchen marvels.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 06/23/2008 5:33 pm
Mugsy Peabody
By the way, whadyall eat?
By Mugsy Peabody on 06/23/2008 6:33 pm
Frank Peterson
Zee—heya you ;-)
By Frank Peterson on 06/23/2008 11:46 pm
Dr. Mark Klein
My advice to Michelle is to avoid making Barrack sleep on the couch too often. Since FDR, it’s been presidents with loveless political marriages, e.g. Truman, JFK, Johnson, Clinton and Bush, who’ve used warmaking as anger management therapy. My take on Michelle is she’s a very tough cookie. Thacher’s psychologically castrating behavior towards her husband might explain the counter phobic psychodynamics of their son Mark who is caught up in the “Dogs of War” style abortive coup financed by oil interests to seize power in Equatorial Guinea. If that country’s extraction request is granted, he could spend remainder of his life with the already convicted plotters in the infamous Black Beach Prison.
By Dr. Mark Klein on 06/23/2008 2:36 pm
Frank Peterson
Mark—I’m going to say this once more and the gods only know why i keep trying: STIFLE! Tough cookie? You have seriously got to be kidding me. Do people actually talk like that any more? Other than in 1930’s screwball comedies? Mark—you need to get out more—see the world—quite thinking like a 150 yr old crustacean. Honestly—there are times you thoroughly piss me off.
By Frank Peterson on 06/25/2008 6:24 am
Bonnie Oliver
Wonderful to be a drop on a water goblet and listen to the conversation! I agree with Lesley Stahl that Americans are adverse to any person taking power who is unelected and that does include the First Lady. I think the Clintons tried to forestall the criticism when he said “you get two for the price of one”. However, as we all know, his plan did not work. I thought Judith’s remark that a First Lady “cannot win” with the public if she participates in political debate or takes as a cause a controversial issue was poignant. True but sad also. The First Lady must be anti the anti unless it is a cause that is overwhelming accepted, such as literacy or the fight against drug use. Denis Thatcher was a practicing dentist and was able to continue his profession while Margaret was Prime Minister. I don’t know if a First Lady could work outside the White House at a law firm or hospital while still carrying out her duties as First Lady. An interesting question but I have a suspicion that Judith’s premise that she “cannot win” would fall into place again. The video lunch is a marvelous way for all of us to participate. I hope the wowers will make this a regular feature.
By Bonnie Oliver on 06/23/2008 3:01 pm
Agyness O
I always wondered why a first lady could never “win” with the public so Lesley’s answer is a point to ponder. Looking back over the bunch, Jackie Kennedy and Dolly Madison, probably came closer than any others in their time but time to reflect is a good thing, too. I, too, loved the video lunch and do hope the wowers can find the time to do more of them.
By Agyness O on 06/23/2008 4:08 pm
Tina Grice
True, Jackie Kennedy was loved…but for what? Her sense of fashion, her ability to look great next to her husband we need more from our first lady, we should expect more.
By Tina Grice on 06/27/2008 9:48 am
I Love Money And Money Loves Me
Jackie Kenney was loved for her brains, grace, dignity, class, taste….for elevating the arts, for loving and highlighting other cultures by going to other countries and making it about them. Joni, Leslie, JG and JB, and Miss Manners on the phone—-LOVED the vid. Hope you can do more of that. You all look terrific and there’s a dimension added when ‘live’ including just audio. Joan Buck was great to see you without the coffee cup and with your hair down. Such an admirer of your work and that you look like France’s new First Lady. All best to all and thank you.
By I Love Money And Money Loves Me on 06/27/2008 5:34 pm
Lucinda Herbert
Denis Thatcher was not a practicing dentist; he was a business man. He ran his family’s paint and preservatives business. He eventually became chairman of Atlas Preservatives and sat on the board of Burma Oil. I agree with Lesley Stahl that we most certainly are adverse to any person taking power who is unelected. In the case of the Clintons, Hillary was perceived as power hungry and strident … and this time around there was the great question … “what do we do with Bill”
By Lucinda Herbert on 06/26/2008 9:56 pm