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Politics | 05/29/2008 8:39 am

New York Governor: 'I Do' Want Out-of-State Gay Marriages to Be Recognized

By The Staff at wowOwow.com
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Hours after Liz Smith pointed out right here on wowOwow that "gays don’t have the same rights as people on death row" (click here to read the entire conversation), comes word that the New York governor is calling on the state to recognize out-of-state same-sex marriages, according to the Associated Press.

Massachusetts is currently the only U.S. state that recognizes same-sex marriages. On June 17, gay couples will be permitted to exchange the legal vows in California. Unless, of course, the state’s Supreme Court decides to change its mind about its decision earlier this month to strike down the same-sex marriage ban. (Read a conversation on California’s step among Lesley Stahl, Liz Smith, Candice Bergen and special guest Kathleen Jamieson by clicking here.)

What do you think about Gov. David Paterson’s move? A sign that times are changing? A good sign? A bad sign?

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Chrome Toe
I applaud him for it but have no idea what it means in terms of the big picture. I’ve never understood the opposition to gay marriage in the first place. I mean… I understand “academically”. Meaning I have read and heard the arguments. They just never made any sense to me. But then I’m not religious and I’m not homophobic. I think in the big picture. It would mean good things about the state of our countries mind and soul if people would begin to err on the side of love and committment instead of fear and bigotry.
By Chrome Toe on 05/29/2008 9:01 am
Diana T
Kelly, you made some good points. I have always thought that civil unions were okay, and like you, I can’t identify with those people that condem others for not living or believing as they do. Personally, I think that the Religious Right grabbed on to the subject of homosexuality as well as abortion for their political gain back in the 90’s. Homosexuality has always been with us, always will. And, when we think about it, in this country especially, our personal lives are supposed to be just that…personal. What business is it how others live if they are law abiding, tax paying, participating citizens? If two people love each other and want to forge ahead in a life together, who am I to be the judge? After all, I’ve had 2 divorces in my life; it certainly wasn’t gay rights that broke up my marriages. This idea that gay marriage will destroy family life is ridiculous; certainly, straight couples have done a great job of doing that already…
By Diana T on 05/29/2008 9:14 am
Chef Zee
YES!!! and thanks for your views.
By Chef Zee on 05/29/2008 10:12 am
Everyone--into the Rose Garden
I agree. It is an obscene waste of energy debating something that has and will always be. And it is ALWAYS drummed up by right wing nuts to fractionalize, enflame and legislate other people’s “morality” (and all the gay people I’ve know have inifintely more humanity and morality than those who would deny them their basic human rights) and when the GOP aren’t the masters of their own ‘morality.” The following is the short list of GOP sex crimes/scandals. Besides, Senator David (please change my diapers, mummy) Vittner. Larry (just practicing the old soft shoe in airport toilets) Craig. Mark (what are you wearing sweaty intern-guy?) Foley. And Bush’s weekly advisor, Mega-Church Rev Ted Haggard who quit in disgrace after discovery of his penchant for cocaine and sex with male prostitutes. “Rev. Ted Haggard confessed in a letter read Sunday at New Life Church to “sexual immorality,” calling himself “a deceiver and a liar” who has long struggled against dark forces. More of the same hypocrisy from these ‘family values’ hypocrites: *Edison Misla Aldarondo, Republican legislator, 13 years in prison for molestation of his daughter and her friend for eight-year period starting when they were 9. *Randal David Ankeney, Republican activist, arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force, and resigned his State of Colorado job on 31 July 2002. He faces 6 charges related to getting a 13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her. *Jim Bakker, televangelist. Committed adultery with Jessica Hahn, used charitable donations to pay her hush money. Indicted on 23 federal charges of fraud, tax evasion, and racketeering [8]. *Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. *Robert Bauman, Republican congressman and anti-gay activist, was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. *Parker J. Bena, Republican activist and Bush Elector, pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography (including children as young as 3 years old) on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. *Louis Beres, chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. 3 of his family members accuse him of molesting them when they were pre-teens. *Howard L. Brooks, Republican legislative aide to California assemblyman, molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. *John Bolton Bush’s appointee ambassador to United Nations, corroborated allegations that Mr. Bolton’s first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to engage in group sex. *Mike Bowers Former State Attorney General, prosecuted the famous Bowers vs. Hardwick case, based on Georgia anti-sodomy laws. Admitted to a 10-year adulterous affair. [15] *Andrew Buhr, Republican politician, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. *Ted Bundy campaigned for the Republican Party. Infamous serial rapist who murdered 16 women. *Jim Bunn Congressman of Oregon: With his success due in great part to support from the Christian Coalition, won his congressional seat, then left his wife (and mother of his five children), married a staffer, and put his new wife on the state payroll with a salary of $97,500. *John Allen Burt, Republican anti-abortion activist, convicted of sexually molesting a 15 year old girl at the home for troubled girls that he ran. *Dan Burton, Republican Congressman who, while married, fathered a child by another woman. *George W. Bush, Republican president, accused in a criminal complaint and lawsuit of raping Margie Schoedinger, who later committed suicide. Accused by Tammy Phillips, a former stripper saying she had an affair with Bush that had ended in 1999. *John Butler, Republican activist, was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl. *Ken Calvert, Congressman (R-Ca), champion of the Christian Coalition and its “family values.” Sued as an alimony deadbeat by his ex-wife. Said “We can’t forgive what occurred between the President and Lewinsky.” In 1993 he was caught by police receiving oral sex from a prostitute and attempted to flee the scene. *Helen Chenoweth, Congresswoman (R-Id.). Admitted to a six-year adulterous affair with a married associate. *Keola Childs, Republican County Councilman, pleaded guilty to sexual assault in the first degree for molesting a male child. *Kevin Coan, Republican St. Louis Election Board official, arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet. *Dan Crane, Republican Congressman, married, father of six. Received a 100% “Morality Rating” from Christian Voice. Had sex with a minor working as a congressional page. On July 20, the House voted for censure Crane, the first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct. *Paul Crouch Televangelist, Former President of Trinity Broadcasting Network. Paid $425,000 in hush money in an attempt to cover up a gay affair. *Richard A. Dasen Sr., Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, convicted of sexual abuse of children, promotion of prostitution and several counts of solicitation, enough to add up to a sentence of 126 years in prison. *Richard A. Delgaudio, Republican fundraiser and Bush pioneer, was found guilty of child porn charges. *Peter Dibble, Republican legislator pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. *Nicholas Elizondo, Director of the Young Republican Federation molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. *Larry Dale Floyd, Republican Constable in Denton County, Texas Precinct Two. Aged 62 when arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8-year old child and was charged with 7 related offenses *John Fund, of the Wall Street Journal, a prominent anti-abortion columnist and GOP fund raiser. He lost his position after it was revealed that he impregnated the daughter of an old girlfriend and then encouraged her to abort his child. *Jeff Gannon Partisan blogger with no journalism credentials and a fake name who got invited to Bush’s Press conferences. Is also a pimp and a gay prostitute, on WH logs of entering WH more than 200 times but never signing out. *Jack W. Gardner, Republican Councilman, had been convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. when the Republican Party, knowing of these crimes, put him on the ballot. *Richard Gardner, a Nevada State Representative (R), admitted to molesting his two daughters. *Newt Gingrich, married three times. Gingrich campaign worker Anne Manning admitted that she gave Newt oral sex while he was still married to his first wife. Informed one wife he was filing for divorce while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer treatments. *Philip Giordano, Republican mayor sentenced to 37 years for forcing two 8 and 10 year old girls to perform oral sex on him in his City Hall office. *Rudy “family values” Giuliani, adulterous affairs, married 3 times, moved girlfriend into home shared with his wife and family. *Matthew Glavin, president and CEO of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, big player in the Clinton Impeachment, and many anti-gay jihads, has been arrested multiple times for public indeceny, one time fondling the crotch of the officer who was arresting him. *Mark A. Grethen, Republican activist, convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. *Jon Grunseth, Republican businessman and candidate for Minnesota governor, withdrew his candidacy after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter, and tried to grope one. *Dr. W. David Hager Bush appointee, member of Focus on the Family’s Physician Resource Council, player in movement to ban the morning-after-pill. Had an adulterous affair, before divorcing his wife he sexually abused her, including sodomizing her in her sleep. *Mark Harris, Republican city councilman who is described as a “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison. *John Hathaway, Republican Senate candidate, was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. *Howard Scott Heldreth, anti-abortion activist who gained fame during the Shiavo media-circus, was convicted of two charges of raping a child in 2002. *Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, introduced by Bush on the campaign trail, and promoted his policies, supports Bush’s ‘family values.’ Two months later, this married father of four turned himself into police, charged with the sexual exploitation of a child. *Neal Horsley has called for the arrest of all homosexuals. Admitted on the Fox News Radio’s The Alan Colmes Show, that he’s had sex with mules. *Tim Hutchinson, divorced his wife of 29 years to marry a congressional aide he was having an affair with. *Henry Hyde, Judge who oversaw Clinton’s impeachment proceedings, prominent opponent of reproductive rights, who had an extramarital affair with a woman who was married and had three children, during the course of which she and her husband were divorced. *Don Haidl, Assistant Sheriff of Orange Country, in violation of California’s rape shield law, led a smear campaign against the child his son poisoned and then violently gang-raped on videotape, adding up to 24 felony counts. He said that his son “acted accordingly” because the child was a “slut”. *Paul Ingram, Republican Party leader of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison *Earl Kimmerling, sentenced to 40 years in prison after he confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. *Lewis Libby, former Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney. In 1996 published a novel containing bizaree sexual content, including bestiality and pedophillia. *Rush Limbaugh, triple-divorcee 30-pill a day drug addict. *Bob Livingston, former Congressman resigned from the House in the wake of revelations about his past adultery while zealously pursuing Clinton impeachment. *Donald Lukens, Republican Congressman, was found guilty of having sex with a minor - a girl he was accused of sleeping with since she was 13. *Pat McPherson, Douglas County Election Commissioner. Arrested for fondling a 17-year-old girl. *Jon Matthews, Republican talk show host in Houston, was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17. *Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee and the sponsor of Tennessee’s Marriage Protection act, getting divorced because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that “Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee.” *Nicholas Morency, Republican anti-abortion activist, pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor *Sue Myrick, Congresswoman (R-NC), describes herself as a “devout Christian.” Committed adultery with a married man. *Bill O’Reilly Right-wing conservative talk show host on Fox News, sued for sexual harassment by his producer. *Bob Packwood, Senator (R-Ore.), resigned in 1995 under a threat of public senate hearings related to 10 female ex-staffers accusing him of sexual harassment. *Jeffrey Patti, Republican Committee Chairman, was arrested for distributing what experts call “some of the most offensive material in the child pornography world” - a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. *John Paulk, lied about prowling for gay sex while running a fundamentalist group to cure gays. Brent Parker Utah State Representetive. Arrested for soliciting sex from an undercover officer posing as a male prostitute. *John E. Peterson, Congressman (R-Pa), accused of sexual harassment and creation of a hostile work environment by six women. Peterson has refused to admit a crime, saying only “I may have been an excessive hugger.” *Harvey Pitt, SEC Chief under George W. Bush until he was forced to resign in 2002. Worked for New Frontier Media, a firm which distributed teen sex videos. *Mark Pazuhanich, Republican judge, pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. *George Roche III, carried on a 19 year affair with his son’s wife, while serving as president of Hillsdale College, which “emphasizes the importance of the common moral truths that bind all Americans, while recognizing the importance of religion for the maintenance of a free society.” *Beverly Russell, County Chairman of the Christian Coalition, sexually molested his step-daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her two children. *Jack Ryan, 2004 Republican nominee for US Senate from Illinois, pressured his wive, actress Jeri Ryan, to have sex with other men. Tricked her into visiting sex clubs, where he asked her to have sex with him while others watched. *Joe Scarborough, former Republican Congressman, currently a conservative talk show host. Resigned his congressional seat abruptly to spend more time with his family, amidst allegations of an affair. His intern, Lori Klausutis, was soon after found dead in his office. The medical examiner, who had his license revoked in Missouri for falsifying information in an autopsy report, and suspended in Florida for six years, ruled the case an accident, after giving conflicting information about her injuries. He said he lied about them because “The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about a head injury.” *Ed Schrock, two-term republican congressman, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were circulated. *Dr. Laura Schlessinger, right wing conservative radio host. Promotes family values, estranged from her mother, opposes birth control, has had her tubes tied, espouses saving oneself for marriage, admits to having had sex before she was married, opposes adultery, has committed adultery while she was married, and has slept with a married man, opposes divorce, is divorced and remarried, posed for nude photos which are available online. *Arnold Schwarzenegger, Republican governor, had sex with a 16 year old when he was 28. *John Scmitz, right-wing republican congressman, who had had his committee chairship taken away from him in the California State Senate after issuing a press release attacking Jews, feminists and gays. Forced out of office in 1982 for having an adulterous affair and fathering two children out of wedlock with one of his students. He was caught because his baby was admitted to hospital for having hair tied so tightly around his penis that it was almost severed. His daughter, Mary Kay LeTourneau, was convicted of having an adulterous affair with one of her students, and giving birth to two of his children. *Larry Jack Schwarz, Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, fired after child pornography was found in his possession. With his political career over, he went to work in the hard-core pornography industry for Platinum X Pictures, owned by his daughter, porn starlet Jewel De’Nyle *Jim Stelling, Seminole County Republican Party chairman who believes in “family values”, as he told a judge. Filed a defamation lawsuit against Nancy Goettman, a former county GOP executive committee member, for falsely claiming he had been married six times. Stelling has been married 5 times. *Don Sherwood, Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives. Eventually admitted to an affar with a woman 30 years younger than him, after she accused him of physical abuse and attempting to choke her. *Tom Shortridge. Republican campaign consultant, was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. *Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr., Republican City Councilman, pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. *Craig J. Spence, Republican lobbyist, organized orgies with child prostitutes in the White House during the 1980s. *Jimmy Swaggart, televangelist, said during a sermon “I’m trying to find the correct name for it … this utter absolute, asinine, idiotic stupidity of men marrying men. … I’ve never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I’m gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I’m gonna kill him and tell God he died.” Had an affair with a prostitute. *David Swartz, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. *Randall Terry, Right to Life activist, founder of Operation Rescue, involved in the Terri Schiavo protests. Once imprisoned for sending former President Bill Clinton an aborted fetus. His son Jamiel is gay; his daughter Tila had sex outside of marriage, became pregnant, had a miscarriage - she is no longer welcome in his home; his daughter Ebony had 2 children outside of wedlock and became Muslim. He has campaigned against infidelity and birth control, gays and unwed mothers. Terry himself was censured by his church after committing adultery. *Bill Thomas Republican congressman, had an affair with Deborah Steelman, a health care lobbyist who steered huge campaign gifts to Thomas’ war chest. *Strom Thurmond, republican senator and racist, raped and impregnanted a 15-year old African American maid. *Robin Vanderwall, Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate, director of Faith & Family Alliance, (a Christian Coalition spin off), former student of Pat Robertson’s Regent Universtity, member of Ralph Reed’s inner circle who funneled money to from lobbiest Jack Abramoff to Reed convicted in Virginia for soliticing sex from a 13-year-old-boy and on four other counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. *Jim Wesr, Spokane Mayor. Had a sexual affair with an 18 year old. Supported a bill, which failed, would have barred gays and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state agencies. Voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people how to protect themselves from AIDS. Proposed that “any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person” among teens be criminalized. boy. *Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative (R), was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16— exposing himself to children Stephen White, Republican preacher. Was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
By Everyone--into the Rose Garden on 05/31/2008 2:52 am
Chef Zee
Rose: This list is unbelievable and brings tears to my eyes. The crimes are heinous, my heart hurts for the victims. But I can’t help but believe so much of the twisted behavior listed above is the results of the horror the perpetrators themselves felt toward their own sexual desires at a very early age. When you are raised in a society, whether religious or secular, which accepts only their narrow view of what is normal it is devastating to your spirit - and entire sense of self - to discover you are physically attracted to another of the same sex. One often becomes so ashamed, and self-loathing that acts of debauchery seem to reinforce the monster you see in your own self-image. Please do not think that I, in any way, condone these acts. I also am well aware the vast majority of the homosexual community are healthy, upstanding citizens. Nor am I a bleeding heart who believes every criminal act should be forgiven based on lousy childhoods. I think in each and every one of these cases the punishment should fit the crime. Yet the crime of society needs to be addressed also. I’m so glad for sites like these that by and large give thinking intelligent people, no matter their gender, political affiliations, sexual preferences, the forum to speak their truth. Bless the founders and bless you all.
By Chef Zee on 05/31/2008 10:50 am
William Klaus
How dare you place the Rightwing Conservative Party and the Republican Party in the same cell , We, the true conservatives want smaller govt, govt. to stay out of our personal lives and most of all not to judge us for something someone else did. We will be judged by GOD on judgement day for what we did within our own personal lives, not on what someone else did or did not do in their lives. We are all to quick to judge someone else for what they allegedly did,  before we take a good long look at what we are doing to ourselves. Try taking the  P R test and see where you score on this (GOD) test.
By William Klaus on 02/26/2009 12:11 pm
Frannie Em
Diana T So right, So right
By Frannie Em on 05/30/2008 10:07 am
Renata
Proud. My mother grew up w/Basil - his dad, on 111th Street — and I knew/know the family well enough to know MANY important CIVIL RIGHTS and women’s rights (real feminist) initiatives will be coming down the pike — fast and furiously. Healthcare advocate as well! No wishy-washy, for-profit DEALMAKING. Just DO it! Proud of you, David. Keep it coming!
By Renata on 05/29/2008 9:18 am
Dr. Mark Klein
Big deal. Marriage today is little more than going steady when I was teenager in the 1950s. Instead of wearing a ring on a neck chain, it’s on the left hand.
By Dr. Mark Klein on 05/29/2008 9:42 am
T S
Hello Dr Klein! And thank you for another unjaded installment of unabated optimism.
By T S on 05/29/2008 9:57 am
Frank Peterson
TS: roflmao
By Frank Peterson on 05/29/2008 12:32 pm
Frannie Em
TS and Frank roflmao
By Frannie Em on 05/29/2008 1:06 pm
Maurine H
TS, Frank, and Frannie - ditto!
By Maurine H on 05/29/2008 9:39 pm
Diana T
Mark, When a marriage works, it’s great. I’m your age. I had 3 marriages but only 1 husband. He died back in 1998, and although we were only together 15 years, I learned what a true adult relationship really means. We were great collaborators and true equals. I feel very fortunate that I had the privilege of knowing what a real marriage is. I doubt I will ever be so lucky again, but I did want to tell you that there are happy and satisfying relationships out there. And, it cannot happen if we are not okay enough to meet the right person in the first place. Please try to work on your bitterness because it is interfering with your ability to relate to others. All best, diana
By Diana T on 05/29/2008 11:15 am
Dr. Mark Klein
Diana—Beats me why women always think guys critical of modern marriage and today’s having it all feminism have to be bitter and lonely. I do just fine with women. In fact, I’m something of chick magnet for high octane very successful professional women who appreciate a non pussywhipped real guy. Diana, like most women you’d really like me we were to meet.
By Dr. Mark Klein on 05/29/2008 6:08 pm