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Peggy Noonan | 07/01/2008 12:00 am

Peggy Noonan Sees a Cultural Shift

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No, but I’ve noticed a changing style in passenger-ship the past few decades. When I first flew, in the ’70s, getting on a plane was still new and exciting. People sat next to each other and thought they were supposed to strike up a conversation — "Hi, I’m Joe Smith from Daytona." The novelty and excitement of the experience made people open. I remember a flight with my aunt and uncle to San Juan once in the early ’70s — people were allowed to move around in the cabin in those days, and smoke, and they visited each other down the aisles and talked loud to be heard over the engines, and laughed loud. I remember on that flight everyone was in Bermuda shorts or capri pants, and it was so festive; they were starting their vacations right there. Now, of course, everyone is used to flying, it’s not exciting and there are more rules, and stewards have to keep their eye on everyone, grimly, lest anyone pull a bomb out of their shoe. And people don’t talk to each other as they once did. The person next to you will make eye contact, briefly, and then say nothing until the food comes. It feels rude to eat side by side with someone and say nothing, so they’ll say, "Well, this looks adequate," and smile briefly. I think people see their plane seats now as a safe alone place to think about what happened at the meeting or what’s coming up at the sales pitch. It’s so quiet. All you hear is the engines, and the dry tap tap of plastic on plastic as people type on their computers. I miss the old joy. But I’m grateful for the alone place too.

Let me add something about the stewardesses of America circa 1950 to 1980. They were fabulous. They were capable and quick and sturdy but they also felt, and were taught, that part of their job was to be nice — to be sweet to kids and to calm the nervous and to be gentle with the old person and to keep the drunk guy in line in the nicest possible way. It was like they were all southern. People used to make fun of them: "Coffee, tea or me," "Poor flying geishas unaware of their oppression by the patriarchy." But they were wonderful, capable, beautiful, and our culture is lesser for their absence. What a great movie scene it could be if you could transfer iconic figures of the ’50s into a moment in time today. The stewardess of 1962 could go down the airplane aisle being sunny and beautiful, and dumbstruck passengers in 2008, us, the famous flying cattle, would stare in awe, and then stand and applaud. Then a modern steward could come in and tell them to sit down or the flight will be diverted and they’ll be reported to TSA.

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Brooklyn Gal
Sometimes you are lucky and the person sitting next to you is fun and/or interesting. But, when they’re not, God bless JetBlue and their little TVs.
By Brooklyn Gal on 07/01/2008 12:49 am
kermie b
Haven’t been on a plane since before 2001. I hate how much everything has changed. I think I would be okay if I tried it again. I used to take enough dramamine to knock out the average adult just to keep from clutching the poor passenger next to me and I was never, ever, able to sleep. I was always a nervous wreck on planes. It didn’t help that I used to fly to Pittsburgh a lot and the flight from LaGuardia took off too close for comfort next to the water. Two planes went down in that bay, unless I am recalling wrong. Those people—I had nightmares about their awful fates. I was the kind of passenger fellow passengers tried to mother. (You want the window seat, honey? I’ll trade with you. Are you okay? Have a magazine. Have a drink. Please.) The stewards are amazing folks—they tolerated me without ever making me feel bad. From all the bad flyers like myself, I would like to give them a huge Thank You.
By kermie b on 07/01/2008 1:19 am
mary lou s
i last flew to visit my mother with one of her friends well before 2001. i cannot imagine reaching over my gut to take shoes off only to be told to report to the visual nudity screening room. this to see my mother or sister? they will have to lower the prices first. i believe that to show his good faith in the tsa, george w. bush should have to take off his shoes whenever he moves in a motorized conveyance and subject himself to a patdown or visual naked screening if he wants to leave the city. i think it would do wonders for convenient air transit.
By mary lou s on 07/01/2008 10:20 pm
Maggi D
I always say a polite ‘Hi” when I am getting seated and if all I get is a unsmiling ‘hi’ back I leave it at that. I am waaay to interested in people’s stories to let an opportunity go by if it is there, but don’t like to bother people. Heard many wonderful stories by being open to them. My sister says people probably just make crap up but even if that is what they are doing, they are atleast being wonderful story tellers.
By Maggi D on 07/01/2008 1:56 am
I Love Money And Money Loves Me
The only time I made something up was in a jam-packed 727, last seat in the back next to window (when always get up front near door so extra leg room—-have horrible claustrophobia) when a huge man came and was going to sit next to me so I’d be trapped at the window. I got up as I said, “We’d better switch seats, I’ve been throwing up all day, and might have to dash for the bathroom.” Didn’t even feel bad for making it up, and didn’t give him a chance to think about it or say no.
By I Love Money And Money Loves Me on 07/01/2008 2:35 am
Elisabeth S
Maggi D, I have had the same experience when traveling. Not just planes, but shared rides, shuttles, cabs and restaurants. I have heard the most amazing and personal things about people. I think I have one of those everywoman faces. And something about you will never see that person again. My family thinks it is hilarious, but I haven’t always been amused. Generally I will always listen and be interested. I miss that now that I don’t travel as much.
By Elisabeth S on 07/01/2008 11:50 am
I Love Money And Money Loves Me
Beautifully said and so true. Love the photo. Can remember first plane ride when maybe 3, my sister 2. TWA silver and red, linen and glassware, gracious and refined. My mother in a black swing coat, Veronica Lake hair, red lipstick, white gloves, black alligator bag and shoes. Now we have x-rays that see through our clothes. Ugh. Triple Ugh. I bookmarked Mary’s “NetJets.” When my son was 8 he wrote a letter to American Airlines asking what he needed to do to become a pilot. I said, oh by then it’ll be like cattle runs and all computerized so the pay will be zip. Did I had 20/20 or what?
By I Love Money And Money Loves Me on 07/01/2008 2:28 am
doll lady
I used to fly thousands and thousands of miles in a year. If it were not for the friendly stewarts/stewardesses during the red eye specials, I would have had a hard time coping with the stresses of a too busy life and career. But now I do feel like a member of the “zombie international” when I’m flying. The “friendly skies” of yesterday is not the priority of the day in today’s world.
By doll lady on 07/01/2008 4:58 am
Lorraine Bates
Lots has changed about flying. Until I was a young adult, people used to dress up to fly. Airlines used to serve real meals, without charging extra for them. Parents used to prevent their children from kicking seats. Now, kids run rampant, airlines charge for peanuts, and, considering one must practically disrobe at the security checkpoint, flip-flops and track pants are the norm.
By Lorraine Bates on 07/01/2008 7:29 am
Barbara
Personally, I think they should have a “no talking” section on planes. I fly every single week for work. Flying is not fun. It’s not an adventure. It’s just a way to get somewhere. I’m not looking for someone to talk to. I’m either thinking about work, doing work, thinking about my family, making a list of to-do’s or getting in a little reading because I have so little time for myself. I admit it — I’m one of those people who will just say “hi” and nothing else. But I don’t apologize for it. A plane ride isn’t a social occasion for me.
By Barbara on 07/01/2008 7:41 am
James the Game
I noticed this phenomenon a few years back. I don’t mind if people aren’t outgoingly friendly, but a lot of folks are downright rude: they won’t acknowledge a “hello” or whatever. But I don’t let it bother me; I figure the problem is with them. People miss wonderful opportunities when they are aloof.
By James the Game on 07/01/2008 8:03 am
Diana T
By the time I get to my seat after having gone through the check-in routine, I am so relieved to get settled in. I have always taken a good paperback on my flights so that I can read. I can’t imagine sitting through a flight without a book.
By Diana T on 07/01/2008 9:19 am
Patrice Baldwin
I’m the same, Diana. I’ve always wanted to meet some delicious guy and strike up …. well, something anyway. But It’s always someone who won’t talk or someone I wouldn’t talk to if they were the last person on the plane and we were going down. *sigh*
By Patrice Baldwin on 07/01/2008 3:39 pm
Elisabeth S
Peggy, Great article. May I say I am a great admirer of your work. Love reading your columns and always look for you on the news shows. You seem to always have something intelligent and relevant to say. Not just partisan ranting. Despite what so many of the newsies say, we here in the vast, “silent” majority, do care, can think and aren’t swayed by partisan spin. Sorry, enough, just had to get that off my chest. My comment is: please write more for this site. My question is: Do you think that, despite the horrible conditions for flying now, that the lack of social interaction is reflective of a deteriorating sense of community? Because I often get that same sense in the grocery store, bank or car wash. Everybody in their own cell phone, IPOD, Blackberry world. What do you think?
By Elisabeth S on 07/01/2008 11:44 am
HA BIBI
As a flight attendant (Started my flying career when we were called stewardess’s) I have always enjoyed the conversations with the traveling public. Many a great conversation was begun in our galley’s. Although, when traveling for leisure it is usually with my husband so I have my built in seatmate with plenty to talk about. When working and have to position on another airline to pick up my flight…. I assess my seatmate, if they seem like they are nice and intelligent then I am more than happy to engage in conversation, otherwise I whip out the old I-pod,recline my seat and get lost in the music. Elisabeth S…I totally agree with you , It is a complete deterioration of society as a whole. People I feel are just under far more pressure to work harder and faster than in times past. The age of electronics is a wonderful thing however it also desensitizes us to the human factor of face to face interaction. i.e. What a joy to get a live person when we have to make a buisness call…. We are now a world that has replaced the human touch with touch tone animation.
By HA BIBI on 07/01/2008 2:44 pm