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A Friend Stopped By | 11/18/2008 11:15 am

Proposition 8 Battle Just The Beginning For Gay Marriage Rights

By Brenda Feigen
©AP

None of us quite realized that the passage of Proposition 8 would become such a watershed moment.

My spouse Joanne and I were domestic partners until July 4th, when we finally married under California’s recently approved same-sex marriage law. We’ve been together for 16 years, so it seems like the obvious thing to do, but I must admit that part of me was in it for the legal challenge.

Once we were wed in the Golden State, we could then take on the Defense of Marriage Act, or what I refer to as Bill Clinton’s really big mistake. That act prohibits the federal government from honoring same-sex nuptials, thus putting gay and lesbian couples in quite the awkward position. But, frankly, we’re not sure we’re even married at this point, considering that Proposition 8 overturned the California Supreme Court’s ruling that same-sex couples deserve marriage rights. Regardless, even if we are still married in CA, we have miles to go.

If we’re no longer 2nd class citizens in California, we can’t stop there. We then have to challenge DOMA, because what really matters now is that despite the fact we pay our social security taxes like other good citizens, we still face unique hurdles. For example, if one of us dies, the other, thanks to DOMA, doesn’t get those benefits. And if I buy a house with my own money, I can’t make Joanne a co-owner because I’d have to pay a federal gift tax on anything more than $14,000 a year, while “real” married people can transfer property back and forth with no consequences whatsoever. In short, it is a big deal to be married here in CA, yes, but it’s an even bigger deal to ensure the federal government recognizes that marriage.

The California Supreme Court issued their ruling on May 15th, and you can be sure I read every word, amazed and delighted that the highest court in this state had decided that discrimination against gays and lesbians is as bad as discrimination against blacks or women. Such discrimination, the court said, should be viewed as “suspect” and, to withstand judicial scrutiny, any distinctions between straights and gays would have to be justified by a compelling state interest. The court also mentioned that marriage counts as a fundamental right and that gays and lesbians can’t be deprived of such a right any more than any other group can be.

In the old days, of course, before Loving v. Virginia, blacks and whites could be denied the right to marry. This is just like that – bad. In fact, on June 12, 2007, Mildred Loving issued a rare public statement prepared for delivery on the 40th anniversary of the US Supreme Court’s decision in her case. The concluding paragraphs of her statement moved me very much:

Surrounded as I am now by wonderful children and grandchildren, not a day goes by that I don’t think of Richard and our love, our right to marry, and how much it meant to me to have that freedom to marry the person precious to me, even if others thought he was the "wrong kind of person" for me to marry. I believe all Americans, no matter their race, no matter their sex, no matter their sexual orientation, should have that same freedom to marry. Government has no business imposing some people’s religious beliefs over others - especially if it denies people’s civil rights.

I am still not a political person, but I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.

In case you haven’t heard, Proposition 8’s passage has awakened a sleeping giant. Joanne, I, and our allies have gone to protests and marches ever since election day and more and more signs like “Another Hetero Family against (H)8” keep popping up, along with “No more Mr. Nice Gay”, “Where is the Gay Tax Discount?”, “When do I Get to Vote on Your Marriage?” And of course along with all sorts of other creative slogans, peppered with rainbow flags and trinkets.

On Saturday, there were protests at city halls all over the country organized not by polite groups like Equality California, NCLR, the ACLU and NO on 8, but instead via the Internet, on YouTube and countless other virtual outposts. Many of the kids that got involved in the election have taken up the cause, which has been a bit muddied by our new president-elect. Prior to Election Day, Obama said he opposed Prop.8 because the courts should decide constitutional rights. But, all of a sudden, on the morning of Nov. 4th, as I was heading out to vote, in came a robo-call, with Obama loudly proclaiming that his Christian faith dictates that marriage should be between a man and a woman. That was the message that the black churches were spreading, and that was certainly a part of the reason for Prop. 8’s defeat: 70% of African Americans reportedly voted for 8.

The real truth, as we all probably know by now, is that the religious right decided to use Proposition 8 to break down the separation of church and state. Since it’s passage, the “Yes on 8” people have invaded our protests, brandishing signs quoting religious homilies. Actually, not a single person that I have seen or heard has tried to defend Proposition 8 on anything other than religious grounds. I guess the fact they think our marriages will destroy their families makes sense to some of them.

In the midst of all the protests, a legal challenge has been filed in the California Supreme Court arguing that Proposition 8 should be overturned because it’s really a constitutional revision that requires a 2/3 vote of the legislature before it goes to the people for their vote. Clearly it’s a revision, because we had been granted full and equal rights by the court and then along came Prop. 8 that carved out specific rights (from the rights we’d just obtained), namely the right to marry, that the religious right doesn’t think we deserve.

If, for some horrible reason, we lose in state court, the next step would be to go to federal court, and argue that Prop. 8 violates the equal protection and due process clauses of the 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution because the state (here via a constitutional amendment) not only has denied us equal protection, but has also stripped us of the fundamental right to marry. I really hope it doesn’t come to that but, if it does, I can’t wait to read what Justice Ginsburg has to say, especially since I sat next to her 35 years ago at the U.S. Supreme Court’s counsel table as she argued that discrimination against women is suspect, subject to the highest level of scrutiny and that there has to be a compelling state interest (the term used by the California Supreme Court in protecting gays and lesbians) to uphold any discrimination against these protected groups, in both of which I happen to belong.

Brenda Feigen is an attorney now practicing in Los Angeles. Shortly after graduating from Harvard Law School, she co-founded Ms. Magazine with Gloria Steinem, after which she became the director with (now Justice) Ruth Bader Ginsburg of the Women’s Rights Project of the ACLU. It was in that position that she found herself at the U.S. Supreme Court’s counsel table with Professor Ginsburg who was arguing to the all-male court that sex should be a suspect classification. Ms. Feigen has retained her interest in constitutional law ever since. She moved to Los Angeles in 1990 to produce a movie and continue her practice of law. Today her clients include a bi-national same-sex couple who have a daughter but can’t marry because, thanks to DOMA, the non-U.S. citizen would lose her visa. Brenda has written on the subject of same-sex marriage for the Harvard Women’s Law Journal. Her memoir, Not One of the Boys: Living Life as a Feminist was published by Knopf in 2000.

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newzie snoozie
RIGHT AROUND GENESIS YOU KNOW AROUND THE BEGNNING OF TIMES GOD DID CREATE ADAM AND THEN HE SAID IT ISN’T GOOD FOR A MAN TO BE ALONE. SO HE CREATED WOMAN TO BE HIS PARTNER. U-NO! THINK !!! IF I AM MARRIED TO MY HUSBAND AND MY HUSBAND IS MARRIED TO ME AND WE ARE GOING BACK AND FORTH AT EACH OTHER WHO DOES THAT BOTHER?? MANY DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES, RIGHT? SOME PEOPLE COULD CARE LESS IF WE HAVE A KNOCK DOWN DRAG OUT FIGHT ON THE HOUR AFTER THE HOUR AFTER THE HOUR. THEN AGAIN WE HAVE SOME VERY CARING PEOPLE WHO CARE SO MUCH . IT HURTS THEM TO SEE MY HUSBAND HURT ME AND THEY HURT SO BAD WHEN I HURT HIM,………….THAT’S THE WAY IT IS UH HUW HEW HUW! SOME CARE SOME DON’T. SOME VOTE YES, AND SOEM VOTE NO.
By newzie snoozie on 11/18/2008 7:04 pm
Ky McQueen
I am sick and tired for the media and the many protester blaming the African American vote for the outcome…these are the facts: Votes Percentage Yes 6,156,848 52.2% No 5,646,170 47.8% Blank votes 256,868 N/A Total votes cast and counted 12,059,886 Total Voter turnout 68.6% Only 10% of African Americans voted. What about the other 58.6% who voted. There were plenty of votes BLANK!!!! I just wish they blame this on the Mormons for even putting that question on the ballot.
By Ky McQueen on 11/18/2008 7:25 pm
Kryssi K
Ky - trust me - we DO blame the Mormons! I don’t think it was a racial thing at all - more of an age/religious thing.
By Kryssi K on 11/18/2008 7:43 pm
Brenda Feigen
I blame the Mormons, the Knights of Columbus and the Evangelicals who all poured $20 million into the Yes of H(8) side of OUR state proposition mess. I have never just blamed blacks, nor has anyone else. The reason for even mentioning the support of black churches for H(8) is that we are crying out for Obama (whom they seem to worship as do a whole lot of other people) to speak up and say the right, moral thing. Anyone who hides behind Christianity or anything else on this issue is mixing his/her religion up with politics and there’s NO room for that in our democracy.
By Brenda Feigen on 11/19/2008 1:17 am
Brenda Feigen
I blame the Mormons, the Knights of Columbus and the Evangelicals from all over the country who poured $20 million into the Yes on H(8) side of OUR state proposition mess. I have never just blamed blacks, nor has anyone else. The reason for even mentioning the support of black churches for H(8) is that we are crying out for Obama (whom they seem to worship as do a whole lot of other people) to speak up and say the right, moral thing. Anyone who hides behind Christianity or anything else on this issue is mixing his/her religion up with politics and there’s NO room for that in our democracy.
By Brenda Feigen on 11/19/2008 1:21 am
Brenda Feigen
I blame the Mormons, the Knights of Columbus and the Evangelicals from all over the country who poured $20 million into the Yes on H(8) side of OUR state proposition mess. I have never just blamed blacks, nor has anyone else. The reason for even mentioning the support of black churches for H(8) is that we are crying out for Obama (whom they seem to worship as do a whole lot of other people) to speak up and say the right, moral thing. Anyone who hides behind Christianity or anything else on this issue is mixing his/her religion up with politics and there’s NO room for that in our democracy. AND it’s awful when any minority group tramples on the rights of another minority group. They know what prejudice is like so maybe we do hold them to a higher standard. Is that so bad???
By Brenda Feigen on 11/19/2008 1:25 am
Frank Marks
Ky: The black vote was 70% for Prop 8, 30% against. Prop 8 loses if those numbers are turned around.
By Frank Marks on 11/22/2008 12:28 pm
Boo 2u
Ky, I hope I didn’t give you that impression. When I was in my late teens, I was taken in by a black family that treated me more like family than my own family. I was lucky for that experience, and I was lucky that I was never exposed to the ugliness of racist ideas. Though I was disappointed that blacks, of all people, voted the way they did, I certainly don’t blame Blacks for the whole issue. Frankly I blame religion because it has done the most damage to date for this issue and others. But at the same time I have to wonder what the blacks that DID vote to ban gay marriage where thinking when they did so. Did they think about how they might feel in our position, or did they just vote yes because they were told to by their preachers, do they assume that religion should dictate our fate… did they ever question those beliefs. Did they vote yes because they like the idea of someone else being the underdog for a change? Did they think that the slavery condoned in the bible was right? Did it cross their mind that maybe the homosexual information might also be suspect? I guess I just don’t understand how we as human beings can be so swayed by the words in a book written in a far more primitive time.. oh well that’s another topic.. Mormons are being blamed because of the money they put into this issue, but frankly everyone that assumes the bible is the word of god, and yet can’t prove a word of it is to blame for this being an issue for this long. Just as you are sick and tired of the media and protesters, and Christians are tired of being blamed for being insensitive and bigoted, we to are tired of waiting for the simple rights you have that we can’t access because of some religious interpretation of belief in a country that has separation of church and state. So I too am tired, I am tired that people of any color or any religion see us as a nuisance, a bother, a blot on our society rather than just ‘people’ who want to share in the same happiness others are allowed by law. I am tired of the silly paranoia that we will somehow destroy marriage and that we will corrupt children, all notions born of ignorance of the facts and a people that really could care less as long as they have their rights. I don’t get up every morning thinking about my own rights. I am 58 years old and I doubt I will live to see gays have the same rights as you have, but there does come a time when you just get so fed up with waiting, and that is where this is right now.
By Boo 2u on 11/18/2008 8:43 pm
Kryssi K
BEAUTIFUL.
By Kryssi K on 11/18/2008 9:22 pm
Maurine H
Most of you have spoken so thoroughly and eloquently that I don’t think I have much of value to add to this conversation except to ask a couple of questions. 1) Why aren’t the churches who pushed their “Yes on 8” agendas openly, being challenged legally? 2) Why is the Mormon church, which funnelled millions to California from Utah for the sole purpose of passing Prop 8, not being sued? As a Californian, I am still in disbelief that Prop 8 passed in my state. I thought Californians were more invested in justice and more enlightened than that. If religious institutions were, indeed, the primary underwriters of the Yes on 8 propaganda, then they should be held accountable. When they turned Prop 8 from a civil rights issue into a religious issue, rampant with scare tactics, these supposed “Christian” churches made a mockery of the law and hypocrites of their own congregations.
By Maurine H on 11/18/2008 10:26 pm
Kryssi K
Why isn’t the Mormon Church being sued?” It is indeed a work in progress: http://www.mormonsstoleourrights.com/
By Kryssi K on 11/19/2008 1:21 am
Brenda Feigen
The Mormon Church isn’t being sued, because the lawsuit would be to deprive it of its tax exempt status. Who gets to take away tax exempt statuses (stati!)? The IRS, i.e. the U.S. Govt. Maybe Obama will crack down on this stuff, but right now and for ever so long we’ve been living in what feels like a church-state. I do worry about Obama’s mentions “faith-based” stuff, because it still smacks of a violation of the church-state separation that’s embedded in our Constitution. I hope that he sees the danger of even talking about “faith” once he’s in power.
By Brenda Feigen on 11/20/2008 9:14 pm
Char Star
(Don’t forget—the CATHOLIC CHURCH also poured money into getting Prop 8 passed.)
By Char Star on 11/21/2008 12:11 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Actually, no, not the beginning. The beginning was of course centuries ago.
By Mugsy Peabody on 11/19/2008 12:23 am
Ro H
This issue really just boils down to ignorance. Ignorance is not always bliss-ful. Ignorance is the people who continue to see only one color while looking at television… in color. Ignorance is viewing all people under one umbrella - when it rains it is followed by a rainbow. people are a part of that rainbow. Ignorance allows for black and white, no grey. Ignorance makes people sound, or appear hateful. Maybe they are, because they are so ignorant.
By Ro H on 11/19/2008 1:56 am