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Politics | 02/10/2009 10:15 am

Sen. Gillibrand Under Fire for 'Gun Flip-Flop'

By The Staff at wowOwow.com
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"Will the real Kirsten Gillibrand please stand up?" That’s what some New York papers are asking, particularly about the politician’s gun policy.

Gillibrand, who represented gun-friendlier upstate New York in the House before she took over Hillary Clinton’s Senate seat, has long been a friend to the gun industry, and received a 100-percent rating from the National Rifle Association. Downstate voters, meanwhile, were not impressed and pushed Gillibrand to take a more liberal stand against firearms. Then, on Monday, after visiting the parents of a Brooklyn teen killed by gun violence, Gillibrand said she would work to end illegal (key word: "illegal") gun trafficking and would work to give susceptible teens more access to after-school programs, job training and other alternatives to joining gangs.

"There’s a very big difference between making sure hunters can hunt in upstate New York, because it’s part of our heritage and our history and the Second Amendment to our Constitution, and fighting against gun violence," Gillibrand told reporters. "And those are values and views that I’ve always held — that we do need to fight against gun violence. We do need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals."

Gillibrand says that’s not the same as changing her stance on guns; after all, she did support a House bill aimed at ending gun violence. But that doesn’t mean she’s not catching criticism from those happy to lob it against her over the issue.

The New York Daily News says, "A cynical newspaper guy might say Gillibrand was never so much pro-gun as pro-Kirsten, and the change only reflects a broader constituency than the rural hunters she represented as an upstate congresswoman."

And from a New York Post editorial today: "Indeed, Gillibrand, formerly a single-term centrist congresswoman from a Republican-leaning Upstate district, is running as fast as possible from every position that used to separate her from the state’s Democratic elite," including on issues such as guns, immigration and gay marriage. "Those New Yorkers now getting their first good look at their new senator are entitled to wonder whether they can believe a word she says."

Maybe we should give Gillibrand a break and see what she does before putting her before a firing squad.

12 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

f p
She’s a typical pol alright—and guns aren’t the only thing she’s flip-flopped on.
By f p on 02/10/2009 10:21 am
Lee Harrison
The media is so aggravating! Just because she defends the right to hunt is she supposed to also defend the right of thugs to shoot kids with hand guns?
By Lee Harrison on 02/10/2009 10:24 am
DeBúrca obj
There’s a very big difference between making sure hunters can hunt in upstate New York, because it’s part of our heritage and our history and the Second Amendment to our Constitution, and fighting against gun violence,” Gillibrand told reporters….. “We do need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.” - That is pretty much most Democrat’s stance on gun laws, something which has been twisted by the NRA to scare hunters into thinking we want to take their guns away.
By DeBúrca obj on 02/10/2009 10:24 am
caj p
I’ m glad to hear it; there should be a lot more gun control…far too easy to get access and too many senseless deaths all because of our second Amendment “right to bare arms”!!
By caj p on 02/10/2009 10:35 am
Ms. Dee
I can’t tell you the number of times in my life that new or additional information or experience has led to a change of heart and-or mind. I don’t call that a flip-flop. I call it growth. Maybe even maturity. Gillibrand’s filling bigger shoes, and serving a more diverse constituency, in the Senate than she did in the House of Representatives. She’s bound to develop a broader perspective on any number of issues
By Ms. Dee on 02/10/2009 10:38 am
DeBúrca obj
I’m with you Ms. Dee. The term “flip flop” was coined by small minds who do not value the human mind and its power to use reason and to for people to learn, change and evolve.
By DeBúrca obj on 02/10/2009 10:43 am
DeBúrca obj
Typo: take the “to” out before the “for”. I’ve been adding extra words all morning to my posts.
By DeBúrca obj on 02/10/2009 10:45 am
Ms. Dee
Actually, I think it was coined by consumers of footwear for the beach. A lovely bit of onomatopoeia on the part of the working class, highijacked by politicians who’s verbal skills are predominently determined by focus groups and “word recognition” surveys. Maybe it’s the American equivalent of throwing shoes or something, but it’s become a pretty sillly insult to hurl at anybody at this point, since our whole economic philosophy is pretty much flip-flopping around like a dying fish.
By Ms. Dee on 02/10/2009 11:15 am
Belinda Joy
I agree with what others have said in regard to this simply being a case where her perspective on gun control may be changing as she is provided other ways of thinking about it. However I will say this, I learned a lot about how the media can distort something into more than it really is by watching how they reported over the last two weeks on President Obama and the stimulus package. I’m with the wOw staff, I’m taking a wait and see attitude on this one.
By Belinda Joy on 02/10/2009 12:03 pm
Marina B.
I agree with both of your statements, Belinda.
By Marina B. on 02/10/2009 4:00 pm
Grande Camper
Flip-flop it is. This may be a hard battle to fight. It will be interesting to watch.
By Grande Camper on 02/10/2009 1:42 pm
Bonnie Oliver
I don’t see the flip-flop. She is still in favor of the right of people to own handguns, right? If she doesn’t want a gun in the hands of a criminal, I think about 99.9% of New York (and the Nation) would go along with that statement. What is the real story here?
By Bonnie Oliver on 02/10/2009 10:11 pm