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Joan Ganz Cooney | 04/23/2008 11:23 am

Joan Cooney: Senators Clinton and Obama Have Made Each Other Unelectable

Joan Ganz Cooney

I’ve been trying to figure out post-Pennsylvania what I think about what’s happening in the Democratic party. Originally I had been for Hillary, but when I found I couldn’t stand to watch her out on the campaign trail anymore, I began to favor Obama. I have always had my doubts about both candidates. I wanted, as so many others do, to move on from Clintons and Bushes and yet Obama seemed, well, inexperienced to me, even a bit callow. I have never understood the hysteria that attended the first months of his candidacy. Now, he has been bloodied by Hillary and others, including George and Charlie, and so I see him as weaker as a candidate now than he was earlier.

The truth is, I believe, that they have made each other unelectable. If she is the candidate, many African Americans, maybe most, and many other Democrats will either stay home or vote for McCain because they are so angry at her. If he is the candidate, all her criticisms of him, and in addition the Rev. Wright tapes, will be aired ad nauseam by the Republicans and will seriously hurt him. And I fear that racism is still alive and well in America (as is sexism) so the Democrats may have managed to do what was thought to be impossible: Lose the coming election, and prove yet again that they are peerless when it comes to the art of self destruction.

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eleanor roche
That’s called a Democracy. We live under a Representative Republic. The founding fathers had the foresight to know mob rule was not productive.
By eleanor roche on 04/24/2008 2:37 am
lynne seed
Joan, your observations are valid. Hillary Clinton supportes in even greater numbers than Obama’s say they will not vote for Obama but McCain or stay home. Pundits say Obama supporters are more die hard democratics and will vote for Hillary if she gets the nod. I do think though whoever gets the nomination will have the support of all the elected democrats to do everything they can to reunite the party and get support for their candidate. Encouraged, my Republican husband says he cannot vote for McCain because he is so wrong on the issues and even though he does not like either HIllary or Obama he will vote for whoever is on the ballot.
By lynne seed on 04/23/2008 12:15 pm
Corinne M.
If she is the candidate, many African Americans, maybe most, and many other Democrats will either stay home or vote for McCain because they are so angry at her.” What is this based on? In every contest, Barack Obama has won 90% of the African American vote. In almost every contest, he has had trouble cracking 40% of the white working class vote, seniors and women. Pennsylvania was no different: Obama won 89% of the African American vote. But only 38% of the white vote. He lost white women by nearly 2-1. $12 million in advertising couldn’t change that. The Democratic voters who turned out in Pennsylvania were 59% women. According to Pennsylvania exit polls, via CNN, only 50% of Hillary supporters say they will vote for Obama if he gets the nod. Women are tired of being taken for granted.
By Corinne M. on 04/23/2008 12:22 pm
No GOP
Hilliary won by only 9%, here’s the NYT editorial “Low Road to Victory” on what she is doing to the party—and to the image of women. As in the children’s rhyme ‘When she was bad she was horrid.” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/opinion/23wed1.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&o…
By No GOP on 04/23/2008 2:53 pm
Ellie H
So the NYT was totally wrong. Not the first time. The only thing Hillary is doing to women is making the ones who were living in the fantasy that they aren’t discriminated against in every possible way or those who thought women couldn’t be tough and smart wake up. It would take me pages and pages to list the lies and negative attacks from the Obama camp. But do we hear them over and over as proof that he is “horrid”? No. Because the media and the big shot men don’t care who or what Obama is. They’d get a Martian elected if they could as long as it was a male Martian.
By Ellie H on 04/23/2008 11:15 pm
Maurine H
Joan, I have to say the “unelectability” issue worries me, too. I may be an idealist, but I still believe the Dems. can pull off a win in November; however, the longer the campaign continues, the less likely that becomes. I am strongly supportive of Barack Obama for a plethora of reasons too long to list here. Suffice to say…I’m sick of the professional politicians who twist the truth to suit themselves, and I’m really tired of Bill and his rants. Obama offers a higher road. You should see all the young people in my community who are knocking on doors, making phone calls, raising money for Obama. It’s really thrilling to see them so engaged. OK, back to your question. If it weren’t such a critical time for the U.S., I’d say this is the healthiest, most fascinating campaign in my lifetime. But it needs to end, and soon, so we can get down to the business of opposing McCain. I think the next few primaries will tell the story, and hopefully, before Denver, we’ll have a good candidate we can all support. Of course, the answer is to have both Barack and Hillary on the same ticket, but they’d have to get beyond their words and differences to see the greater good for the country. One can hope.
By Maurine H on 04/23/2008 12:25 pm
Frank Peterson
Maurine: I dunno—to me this constant battle with one another is strictly a bloodbath and unless some common ground is reached soon, McCain is going to win. And that scares the hell outta me.
By Frank Peterson on 04/23/2008 2:13 pm
Stevanne Auerbach
Joan, this is exactly how i feel. I knew months ago that it was essential that these two GOOD AND WORTHY candidates find ways to cooperate and work in unison. It is not only for the good of the entire party, the country and our future but for the reality that the problems that will be inherited by any candidate are TOO BIG for only one person to handle. This is a time for men and women, whites and blacks, ALL AMERICANS, to come together and work for the FUTURE—the specialists who know how to solve problems need to be brought into a circle to create solutions—economy and the environment are just two of the HUGE problems we face. Hillary is great for domestic issues, Barack would be a force for realignment of our international relationships before they fray forever. We have never been at a lower point in our history nor had more potential. Democracy is not ONE candidate but ALL of us pitching in to do our part. When will this couple realize its TIME TO STOP INFIGHTING and go after the real enemies—the warmongers and MAKE PEACE WORK IN OUR TIME and then solve the hunger of people for food, health, education and YES! Sesame Street—I approved the first grant on the proposal you submitted to the Office of Education in 1967 and have been a fan ever since. How can we apply the truth on the street to the problems of the two candidates fighting among themselves. This is not about campaign contributions but about COHESION AND COOPERATION. Working together they could be REAL LEADERS AND BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER. THAT IS MY HOPE. ANYONE ELSE AGREE??
By Stevanne Auerbach on 04/23/2008 12:32 pm
beverly linens
Is there anyone here who can remember when no one was sure who was going to be the nominee before the conventions. We here in Oregon haven’t had a chance to vote yet. You are tired because of all the states who moved their primaries and front loaded this process. I love this. By the time they get to the convention they will be better candidates. Now you Democrats get busy and elect a candidate I can vote for. I would love to vote for a woman before I die. I’m 71 and I’ve been waiting a long time.
By beverly linens on 04/23/2008 6:14 pm
Tinka Parker
Six months ago it seemed Hillary had a lock on the nomination. Don’t fail to take into account that a lot can happen inside the next six months and, given the policies set into motion by the Republicans, we can safely predict that things will only get worse, making the Democratic candidate look increasingly attractive, even for racists or misogynists as the case may be. I feel very optimistic that the next president will be Democratic.
By Tinka Parker on 04/23/2008 12:36 pm
Jozie Lee
Right on, Tinka. A lot can happen in the next 6 months … Obama and Clinton might come to the conclusion they can only win on a joint ticket … lay down their arms and embrace one another. Come on, politics makes strange, and seemingly unimaginable, bedfellows. I don’t see why Hilary Clinton should bow out just because she’s a few votes behind. If she was Bill would be expect him to pick up his toys and go home. Never!! As long as she has a fighting chance she should hang in there and fight. Are Democrats so shallow that they wouldn’t support whomever the party is promoting? They’d rather vote Republican or not vote at all? If that’s the case it’s not the candidates who are in trouble, it’s the voter. Democrats better wake up and smell the coffee, or crude oil. We cannot afford 4 more years of a Republican presidency.
By Jozie Lee on 04/23/2008 3:19 pm
Patrick McDermott
Cooney doesn’t take into consideration, firstly, the incredibly short attention span and memory of the American voting public, and secondly, all the McCain negatives sure to surface in the general election (age, health, status quo status, pro-Bush policies, etc.)
By Patrick McDermott on 04/23/2008 5:21 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Joan, I would agree with you, except I’ve seen time and again that the american electorate has the memory of a hungover gnat. There’s going to be so much blood under the bridge between now and November, and I remain worried about this “show trial” of the people the Bush people indicted for 9/11 from Guantanamo recently. The other real worry is, as one friend mentioned often, the Damnocrats may have “shot their wad” and spent all the money fighting with each other. If either gets nominated and people in the other camp stay home, we have seen the end of the two-party system in the United States, because the GOP will use endless dirty tricks to destroy any new framework that comes forward. Thanks for this.
By Mugsy Peabody on 04/23/2008 1:10 pm
ariadne a
this is so sad. peggy noonan wrote in the wsj weeks ago; she said that the dems did not know what they had in obama, but the repubs sure did. he brought hope and the academic credentials and background to achieve same. hillary beat the **** out of him in pursuit of her trek for power. the ‘elitist’ accusations she hurled totally misconstrued his message and beliefs. she called a fund raiser a “closed door meeting,” for effect. he was asked at the calif fund raiser why he thought he was having trouble with the white voters… was it racism? he said no and went on to elucidate. he said that the people of pa were ‘bitter’ because gov’t wasn’t working for them anymore, they could not depend on the gov’t so they clung to the things they felt secure with, religion, guns, etc. he also felt that they were leery of outsiders. i am originally from pa. everything he said is true. he meant it in the most thoughtful of ways and she turned it into elitism and labeled him for the repubs. not far from where my mother lives someone that comes from another county is referred to as an ouschtlander sp?[coming from away.] btw, that is not a typo… it is county not country. her reticence to answer honestly[obfuscation was one of her majors]when asked if she thought he was a muslim and she knew full well that he was not a muslim. i believe it was steve croft who posed the question for 60 minutes. he had to ask her over and over in order to get a semi direct answer. these are attacks on obama that are in no way reflective of who he is or what he believes in, and yet she persists. her negatives are very high so what does she care? at this point i believe that she is jeopardizing not only obama and the entire democratic party but also, her senate seat and political career.
By ariadne a on 04/23/2008 1:22 pm
Agyness O
Ariadne, I agree with you and Peggy Noonan completely!! I am a 66 year old white woman that came of age in the 50’s and 60’s in the deep south when racism was at its worst and women stayed home and took care of their man ad naseaum. Both concepts now cause me pain and shame. I worked hard and became a very sucessful business person in the Washinton, DC area and have grown in the process. I am so over race and gender and feel that anyone that would vote on these issues does so at their own peril with the issues that our country is facing. I am solidly behind Obama and after reading both of his books and carefully listening to his platform, feel that he is the only candidate that can take us where we woud all like to be without self-interest and big corporations involved. And, everybody get a grip….forget Rev. Wright. He is no worse that Pat Robertson and the religious right or the catholics agnoring abuse for that matter. If we used that as a yardstick, the house and the senate along with all branches of government would be VACANT.
By Agyness O on 04/23/2008 2:07 pm