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Julia Reed | 04/01/2008 8:37 am

'What About That Dude Who Said He'd Gone to Vietnam?’

Julia Reed

Last week, I was reminded once again of why it is such a blessing to have a close group of long-time friends. In addition to other considerable joys, they provide a collective memory bank — and they keep us honest.

Case in point: When I answered the Question of the Day, “What is the biggest lie you have ever believed?,” I rather smugly said I never really believed the big lies. I was thinking of the sort of big lies your parents tell to “protect” you when you are younger, or of the lies politicians tell and often believe themselves. And then I got an e-mail from my friend M.T. that asked: “What about that dude who said he’d gone to Vietnam?”

The dude, who I’ll refer to as “Andrew,” was a man I was involved with for about two years when I was in college in Washington, D.C. He was older than I by about eight or nine years and had some kind of amorphous political job, though some exciting deal was always looming on the ever-shifting horizon. This was a period in my life when my self-esteem was not exactly at an all-time high; we shared a tiny apartment and I managed to ignore all signs that he was crazy.

Not only did he tell me — and all my friends — that he had gone to Vietnam, he put on a hell of a convincing show. He had bumpy scars on one of his shins and every once in awhile, tiny bits of metal would work their way out, and he’d explain that they were shrapnel. In the middle of the night, he’d wake up sobbing from a “flashback” nightmare. The scenes he described were so graphic and so horrific — one involved the brutal sexual torture of a South Vietnamese girl by the Viet Cong that I can still visualize — they don’t warrant repeating.

One night, he left the house for some cigarettes and didn’t come back until the following morning. He told me he’d run into the sister of a guy whose skull he’d held together as he lay dying. She’d been upset and needed to talk to him, he said, and he couldn’t just leave her like that. (Much later, my busy-body landlord told me he’d often seen him ducking into the neighborhood strip joint.)

An increasing number of episodes like the latter prompted a conversation with his brother, who was also concerned by his increasingly erratic behavior. “Maybe it’s the Vietnam thing,” I said. To which the brother replied, “What Vietnam thing?” “Well, you know,” I said, “his experiences in Vietnam — I think he’s having trouble with them.” When he gave me the news that Andrew had never been to Vietnam, I actually argued with the poor man, presenting all the evidence on Andrew’s behalf. When I finally realized that he was telling me the truth … I don’t think I’d ever felt such enormous relief.

It was Andrew who was crazy, not me. He wasn’t acting like a bastard because I deserved it; he was just deeply disturbed.

In thinking about this experience, I think I finally have a bead on what motivated Silda Spitzer’s seemingly loyal behavior in the wake of a far bigger bombshell. First, there is shock because pretty much everything that has defined your relationship turns out to be a lie. But when the pathology is so deep and the demons so seemingly numerous, there is an immediate-and welcome-distance that occurs. Not a distance like “I never want to see the S.O.B. again,” but a calm clear-eyed ability to see that these are compulsions that don’t have anything to do with you. You don’t get angry as much as say, “Ah, I get it now.” Or at least that’s what I did.

I didn’t even kick him out-at first. I told him what I knew, and after he’d briefly tried to convince me that it wasn’t true, he agreed to get help. Getting him to see a shrink was the only immediate and sensible thing I knew to do. In a matter of hours or even days, I wasn’t ready to decide what to do with myself (make him move, move myself), but it was clear that he needed to do something.

After the Spitzer debacle, I called several therapists for a piece I was thinking of doing in Vogue on why women like Silda Spitzer literally stand by their men after such awful transgressions are revealed. Dr. Brenda Shoshanna, author of Save Your Relationship, cited the shock factor. “It takes a long time for something like this to sink in,” Shoshanna says. “To move very quickly out of her typical mode of behavior would be unthinkable. Showing up, standing there-that is what’s expected of her.”

Mira Kirshenbaum, a Boston-based couples therapist and author of the upcoming “When Good People Have Affairs,” told me pretty much the same thing. “People almost always act out of consistency,” she told me. “In times of crisis, the way they have been is the way they will be.” Right, I was the fixer in my family. I’d been brought up to think it was wrong NOT to try to control everything. So I figured I could control this particular situation and fix Andrew.

Fortunately for me, Andrew wasn’t all that interested in being fixed. He missed more shrink appointments than he made and when he disappeared for two days — with my car — I was more than ready to kick him out. By this time a few months had gone by. Unlike the Spitzer situation, there were no kids and no joint property. Silda may decide to try to save her marriage (which all the shrinks I talked to said was possible but would require a “team” of therapists) or she may decide to put her life back together without him. Either way, I can’t imagine it is a decision she has even yet made. I was 20 years old when I found out, privately, that somebody I had been with for two years was a nut. Silda’s marriage has lasted longer than I’d been alive at that point.

Also, like with all political couples, a pact of sorts had been made that most folks don’t have to make. “We make a deal with the devil when we enter public life,” says Jeff Gardere, a Manhattan-based clinical psychologist. “We know that whatever happens — good, bad, or ugly — it will play out on a public stage.” So it is, he says, that standing by one’s husband “is part of the job description. These women are not being forced on stage at gunpoint. They know that it’s part of the paces of public life. It was part of the deal they made to be first lady of a city, or a state, or a nation.”

Interestingly, though, Gardere does not see the compliance with that bargain as necessarily demeaning. Rather, he says, it can be empowering — and for all the legions of female bloggers who found Spitzer’s support of her husband “nauseating,” there were a great many who found her a compelling, even admirable figure. “These women are showing the world that there is no shame in their game,” Gardere says. “They may be in shock, but they are also demonstrating a tremendous amount of underlying strength. While their husbands have clearly disgraced themselves, their families and their office, they are saying ‘I’m going to show you who I am as a person, that my standards remain at the highest levels as a wife and as a partner.”

Gardere’s “no-shame-in-my-game” point goes to the clear-eyed distance that I felt after first getting the news from Andrew’s brother. Okay, this guy has some big-time issues, but I am going to be cool, I am going to try to help him, I will not throw stuff or make a scene. It wasn’t what the situation warranted. This was a lie that was bigger than me and it was far easier to deal with than the legions of little lies and disappearing acts.

So I am grateful to my old and dear friend M.T. Not only did she remind me of a big lie I bought hook, line and sinker, she served me a dose of humility. From now on I won’t be quite so glib with my answers, not just about “big lies” believed, but about whether or not women like Spitzer should leave their husbands. It’s complicated stuff and who the heck am I to judge?

Read more about: Love, Relationships, Silda Spitzer

16 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Frank Peterson
So I am grateful to my old and dear friend M.T. Not only did she remind me of a big lie I bought hook, line and sinker, she served me a dose of humility. From now on I won’t be quite so glib with my answers, not just about “big lies” believed, but about whether or not women like Spitzer should leave their husbands. It’s complicated stuff and who the heck am I to judge? Amen
By Frank Peterson on 04/01/2008 9:20 am
CAROLINE MuLVEY
I know that to go through that kind of situation must had been a confusing time. But I am sure that you have learned to be cautious in believing what someone tells you. Like the stories that mt Grandpa told me(which after he died I was told that true parts of his stories).
By CAROLINE MuLVEY on 04/01/2008 10:01 am
Lisa Mullins
Julia, you’re so right about sitting back and passing judgement - it is easy when you’re not the one being judged. You too are very lucky your “Vietnam Boy” did not get the best of you let alone physically hurt you.
By Lisa Mullins on 04/01/2008 10:02 am
Mugsy Peabody
True enough, true enough. May I interject on the subject of Viet Nam, a “boy” who actually did go? He trained in the marines at 18 as a translator, because he believed he could go to Nam and help the situation. Instead, he was given a gun and sent into the middle of the Tet Offensive. The only way he maintained his sanity against the chaos and madness was that he had the “works” of a carousel in his pocket, and would play the tune to center himself, and he would imagine the carousel that would play that tune, so that all these people who were being blown into hamburger instead could come with their families and enjoy a beautiful day together. (In your mind, you can play John Lennon’s “Imagine,” if you wish.) Scott Harrison has now spent the past 18 years of his life hand-carving a full-sized carousel (http://www.chasingmerrygorounds.com/coh) in Nederland Colorado, where he and his wife, Ellen Moore, ran the urgent action campaign of Amnesty International for the past 35 years. The carousel is not the normal animals, but peacocks, great apes, an alpaca, a St. Bernard, and all manner of fanciful creatures, and will be installed at Nederland as the world’s first green carousel, providing power back to the grid. That’s a Viet Nam story which might help take the bad taste out of our mouths.
By Mugsy Peabody on 04/01/2008 2:27 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
Mugsy, Wonderful story and photos….very touching capacity of people to take horrific experience and channel into something magical and uplifting.
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 04/01/2008 7:48 pm
Jane Richards
It is easy for folks to stand on the sidelines and say what they think Silda should have done. But until you have been in the situation, you don’t REALLY know how you would react. We all need to leave them alone now so Silda can figure out what she wants to do next - and not in the public eye.
By Jane Richards on 04/01/2008 12:25 pm
Upanaway
And, Jane, I agree — we have no idea what has gone on beyond their own front door. It’s so simple to judge, and project our feelings onto others actions, but we may end up shockingly surprised when and if we ever find out what her rationale was about….
By Upanaway on 04/01/2008 2:01 pm
Mugsy Peabody
I also feel for you, Missy, and sharing your story does help others own up to the truth about the lies they believed. Although in the end it didn’t hurt anyone except the parties involved, my father left a family to be with my mother (49 years) and while they were still alive, I never knew this (it was the times, I think). So my parents lied to me for our entire lifetime together. And there’s just no way in hell I can’t think, well, was there ANYTHING they said I know to be true? Well, not really. But they were there every daym and they had enough sense to get me out of the box and get the batteries in, so in the end, of course I forgive them, the rat bastards!
By Mugsy Peabody on 04/01/2008 2:32 pm
Bella Mia
The assumption should be that people will certainly stumble and fail at hard things. A long term relationship is a work of art, challenging, with the forces of chaos and complexity and law of entropy tearing at it everyday. It would be interesting, if I were Silda’s therapist, to ask her if there had ever been an agreement between her and her husband about WHEN the temptation arose, not IF but WHEN, what would be the protocol in the relationship. Did they have a plan? Did they discuss that it would be a probable temptation, since most people in a long term relationship would be tempted. A man of Spitzers power would definitely have the temptation presented to him. My husband and I are relatively attractive and so we agreed we would be transparent about any situations or thoughts that involved another person. Many have come along, all of which, to date have been instigated by third parties, like the receptionist at the dentist office - twice!! What is fascinating is to discuss the interaction, and then ask “Why not?” The pluses are few and the consequences many. I think fidelity requires constant vigilance and awareness of human nature. I would ask her: How could anyone assume that this wouldn’t happen to them, and not plan for the inevitable temptation? The same goes for money and business - people will naturally be tempted to take short-cuts and make unethical decisions based on expediency. Plan ahead for human foibles.
By Bella Mia on 04/01/2008 4:05 pm
Lisa Mullins
Bella Mia, you really see the dark side of things…
By Lisa Mullins on 04/01/2008 4:21 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Hum, Lisa, you must lead a charmed life. I thought she was just being compassionate and realistic!
By Mugsy Peabody on 04/01/2008 6:57 pm
Lisa Mullins
Mugsy, I don’t know that my life has been so charmed as you assume, but in reaction to Bella Mia, I don’t want to automatically think the worst of people and that they are going to screw up. I guess I am a rare breed who still believes in giving someone a chance and I don’t wait for their flaws to come to the surface - that will happen soon enough. I feel sorry for Bella Mia because she automatically is sizing someone up for failure.
By Lisa Mullins on 04/01/2008 9:53 pm
Mugsy Peabody
One thing that has always amazed me is, when I really really hate something in someone else, it will turn out to be a flaw in myself. Shadow work, some call it. Whenever I find myself having a fit and judging others, I try to stop and look at why I’m really pissed, and it’s usually because I’m looking in a mirror of some kind. Dern it all!
By Mugsy Peabody on 04/01/2008 10:25 pm
Upanaway
Would life be so simple, so predictable.
By Upanaway on 04/01/2008 8:01 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
Most of my life I’ve said when they make me Saint, I’ll judge. Having sociopaths running the show forces you to live a kind of cosmic split-screen existence; all your believes and values there on the left, and the every-churning reality they are projecting on the right. And trying to reconcile the unreconcilable because we are good people and that’s what we’ve been trained to do. Until we get clear on the cost and say, finito. Everyone has encounters and experiences like that in life—-because it is part of life. To believe that they are part of the majority, or that I have to plan for them. No thanks. Like Jackie I was to be an idealist without illusions. I want to stand back and witness and comprehend the worst and its multitudinous impacts, and believe and value the best. Since we’ve been talking about myths and literary and historic heroes, Isis, was about overcoming evil with light—as Eleanor Roosevelt said—better to light candles than curse the dark. I never want to be that cynical to not believe the Golden Age is just ahead.
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 04/01/2008 6:08 pm