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A Friend Stopped By | 11/06/2008 6:00 am

Where Are the Women of Iraq? by Vishakha N. Desai

How is it that the fall of a dictator could bring a worse fate for women in Iraq?
By Vishakha N. Desai
Courtesy of Vishakha N. Desai

Editor’s Note: Vishakha N. Desai is President and CEO of Asia Society, a global educational organization.

Sitting in Seoul’s fashionable "W" hotel last week, the last thing I expected to feel was a renewed sense of outrage about the Iraq war and what it has done to the reputation and prestige of my adopted country, the United States.  I had the honor of moderating a panel for the "World Women’s Forum 2008" that included Mia Farrow, Rory Kennedy and Yanar Mohammed, cofounder of the Organization of Women’s Freedom in Iraq.

Our conversation focused on women in conflict zones working for humanitarian efforts. While both Ms. Farrow and Ms. Kennedy were impressive, it was Yanar — much less well-known than the other two
ladies — who stole the show.

It was not so much her delivery as much as what she had to say about the plight of Iraqi women in the so-called "democratic" Iraq that truly broke our hearts. Trained as an architect, Yanar returned to Baghdad from Canada in 2003, precisely because she knew she was desperately needed there.

What she found was that the situation of women in Iraq had deteriorated since Saddam’s ouster. She said that under Saddam’s regime (as despicable as it was) Iraq had one of the most liberated societies in the Middle East with a high percentage of women going to college and becoming professionals; Yanar said her mother and women in that general milieu were expected to become doctors, engineers and parliamentarians with equal rights. Today almost 85 percent of young girls are practically illiterate.

Dressed in a Western-style outfit in Seoul, Yanar was in tears as she described how today, no Iraqi woman would dare walk out of her house without being covered head-to-toe or without carrying a gun! "How is it that the fall of a dictator and the arrival of ‘democracy’ could bring a worse fate for women in Iraq?" she asked.

It was equally upsetting to hear that TV channels are full of soap operas that show wife abuse, wife beating and other insults to women as idealized circumstances for the role of women. Women like Yanar and organizations like hers are not only seen as suspect but are routinely threatened. Yanar discussed phone calls that detailed how she would be kidnapped, tortured, and killed.

Mia, Rory and I, along with the audience of 700 women, primarily Korean, with a sprinkling of others, sat aghast listening to Yanar’s story and her experience.

Why is it that women’s lives are far worse in U.S.-occupied Iraq than under Saddam? Why is it that the new constitution of Iraq takes away the rights that women enjoyed before the occupation? Most importantly, why is it that we hear almost nothing about the plight of Iraqi women in the international or U.S. media?

Let us hope that when we finally leave Iraq, at least militarily, we will choose focusing  on the lives of women as one of our better-lasting legacies of this horrendous mistake.

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phyllis Doyle Pepe
I read about these conditions some time ago which just ratcheted up my abhorrence for this war. Under Saddam the country was secular; now it is fraught with religious strife which women again are regulated to a step above dogs. I suspect many men of that country, having had their balls cut off by the American invasion need to feel superior in some realm of their lives–––and it’s always the women who get pushed down and stomped on.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 11/06/2008 9:24 am
newzie snoozie
Phyliss Doyle PEPE , hi , I just boil when I hear about those Iraqi women being treated like dirt. It is enough to hera baout sexual mistreatment to them and now they are not allowed to be taught in a school. that blows me away how can such men exist. Haven’t those women ever heard about when the guy goes to sleep from drinking too much roll hiom up in a sheet and clobber the unkind so&so. … whee, we have abuse here in America enough for the world. but no, now , Iraqi men are worse then many of the American . is it sudan where they cut off the cliterous of the woman . that is something women should start doing. cut the mans thing off like that lady rabbitt wasn’t it? cut it off- and when they wake up with the horrible pain then- maybe they can think of something other then kill the woman. when the men wake up then the women could tell them - find it and it is yours again. i only stayed long enought to say good bye……..you poor uneducated and unbelieving “thing”. there should be some, punishment for the women to come up with, i think. hurt them worse then they hurt the women. now, i have really gone whackoo - i am sure of.———abuse to women always makes me huff and puff. why can the men not see what it takes to get a woman to do for them like they want them to do for them.? ignorance. we alrerady know that boy babies are born with out all thta a woman is born with. we all know thta at the very moment of birth an exay can say if a boy baby is going to be an alcoholic or not. if there is a yellowish show in the brain then they are going ot be then you start raising that boy baby as tho he weren’t and talk babys hear words and gradually they can say words they hear and then here comes the doing of the words they have heard and —-make sure they hear how wonderfull the boy is. carry him as tho he was the most precious boy ever born and add those words. you are good. you are a handsome brut- you are a good thinker etc. donot talk in the whispers children are subject to listen to if they hear you say how close to being a drunk that is what it takes to become one. GOD TELLS US IN THE BIBLE THAT OUR TONGUES ARE MORE SHARP THEN A SWORD. —- SPEAK OF THINGS A S THO THEY WERE AND THEY SHALL BE. ETC.
By newzie snoozie on 11/10/2008 3:16 pm
Lady Teresita Knight
I am very aware of the abhorred conditions of the average Iraqi woman today. My husband has many Iraqi friends so we are very aware of the woman and childern caught in the cross-fire of this war. Yes, in Saddam Secular Iraqi woman had a fuller range of human rights. Now they have taken a step back due to the American Invasion. The positive centers of social reconstruction within Iraqi is happening under the media radar. If the media would due a few indepth stories on the Iraqi Baha’i Community, it would bring the situation into full contexts.
By Lady Teresita Knight on 11/06/2008 11:13 am
Ro H
This is precisely one of the reasons I was so oppositional to the whole war thing, in Iraq! It was stupid, senseless, and look at ALL the homeless people it has created! Women and children, most especially. $%^&*()*&$%^* It makes me very angry! This administration just doesn’t give a —— about anyone but his/their rich buddies… It really IS/WAS about selfish greed and power.
By Ro H on 11/06/2008 12:22 pm
gulliver fourmyle
exactly—-bush knew Iraq was not The Threat—-am i an ‘unpartoticic-rotten-commie-dr. rat’?(bob dylan)—-no—-we had near all Al-Queda caves, etc. on the bleeping map—-we had tons of ‘low-yield’ Tactical Nuke’ cruise-missles—-they leave no ‘nuclear-wasteland’, and as the REAL targets were far from pop-centers—-slim-to-none ‘collateral’ damage—-one order—-no more Al Queda, or Taliban—- bush, knowingly lied, what then is treason? now we’ve slaughtered 1,000,000+ dumb-ass Iraqi civilians—-simply ‘wrong-place, wrong-time’—-and persist in lieing of this—-all Europe knows—-we’ve lost thousands of naive young troops, and created the greatest incentive for future terrorist, this world has ever known—-what do you call ‘treason’? innocent by mental incapacity? that is bush’s only true defense—-and accurate—-he’s insane, and as an insane Hitler, dragged a nation into his insane web of death—- what to do? you tell me 0 NO—-
By gulliver fourmyle on 11/06/2008 11:32 pm
Irish Eyes NY
Yea, I agree. I can’t wait for april 2010. That’s when Obama said all the troops would be gone. Remember that date everyone and lets hold him to it.
By Irish Eyes NY on 11/06/2008 1:25 pm
Kryssi K
AMEN! He better get us out, and not turn out to be a big fat liar like the One Before Him. This war has been nothing but an embarrassment to humanity. It hurt my heart to read about these conditions for Iraqi women… “Spreading Democracy” my aaaaass.
By Kryssi K on 11/06/2008 6:32 pm
gulliver fourmyle
This place in No democracy—-‘Elitest’s-Rule’—-that is fact—-what to expect from such—-it all comes down to ‘Americans-to-dumb-to-live’. such a shame—-
By gulliver fourmyle on 11/07/2008 12:06 am
Sandbee (FB) 54
It was on the news in Houston tonight that the local battalion of army recruiters had 4 suicides since 9/11. They are doing an investigation but one problem is that the recruiters are men who have recently returned from combat and are now being asked to try to convince recent high school grads to enlist. The recruiters aren’t being given the proper after battle care they need. If this keeps up we will be out of troops .
By Sandbee (FB) 54 on 11/07/2008 6:40 pm
Ms. Dee
Did the World Women’s Organization come away with any plans to help realize their hope? What can women in America do to effect some reversal of these circumstances? It’s so frustrating to just hear about problems with no direction being taken toward solutions.
By Ms. Dee on 11/06/2008 4:28 pm
Maurine H
Why is it that women’s lives are far worse in U.S.-occupied Iraq than under Saddam? ” I don’t pretend to have answers to this very complex question - complex because of the juxtaposition of two very different cultures, one of which…comprised of the U.S. occupying forces… is unschooled about the structure and values of Middle Eastern populations, and in particular, those of Iraqis. Women are always victimized during wartime, regardless of the oppressor. When a population, tightly structured and controlled by tyranny, unravels and becomes chaotic, women become fair game for brutality. Why aren’t Iraqi men protecting their mothers, wives, sisters and daughters? Why aren’t American forces more aggressively protecting Iraqi women? Is it because they are all predomininately males engaged in battling and killing each other and women have become not just incidental to the war, they are the targets of Iraqi anger and frustration? I don’t think Iraqi women will regain their rights to be safe, well educated and in leadership roles until the U.S. military leaves Iraq. Even then, women will not be safe until Iraq is stabilized politically.
By Maurine H on 11/06/2008 5:14 pm
Kryssi K
Most importantly, why is it that we hear almost nothing about the plight of Iraqi women in the international or U.S. media?” Exactly. I am just now hearing this FOR THE FIRST TIME here! I am sickened by this. We should have been going after OBL instead of Hussein anyway. None of this adds up. And I fear it never will.
By Kryssi K on 11/06/2008 6:36 pm
gulliver fourmyle
as CIA Docus show, bush had a personal vendetta vs. Saddam—-that sums it up—-no interest for country—-sanity—-simply a lunatic’s revenge—-and we’re stuck with it—-
By gulliver fourmyle on 11/07/2008 12:50 am
Sandbee (FB) 54
This is one thing where we did do the damage, we broke it, we should fix it, but how do you fix something in a culture that is so different from what we understand.
By Sandbee (FB) 54 on 11/06/2008 6:45 pm
C jay
We just need to stop upsetting cultures around the world, period. Western concepts of culture, and in this case women’s rights is not in sync with the rest of the world - get out a map and look at the size of the U.S., then look at the size of other nations. We’d better stop blowing our horns! In Islam, it’s equity that is important for women (in sane environments - like in the U.S. too - in sane environments!). We are not men, and I agree with that, but equity is crucial. Equity for women in the U.S. is gravely lacking. The women in leadership in progressive countries, and who have access to free higher education, puts us to shame. That’s why the far-right keeps women “under wraps” if you will, and in a sense, that’s what Sarah Palin was trying to straddle - as sad as that was. One of the first shout out I made when Palin was being criticized about taking this campaign on with a newborn, was when do men have to proved their careers are not trade offs for their parenting? They don’t, and no one should have to do so. At this point, let’s support women’s international organizations like this one (the FBI will be on our backs, but … ) and hope we can all grow in knowledge, and cultural sensitivity through yet another tragedy about Bush’s invasion of Iraq. Read, the Abraham Connection or view the Charlton Heston DVD, “The Messenger” - both excellent for gaining some insight and reality into Islam. The Iranian films that Netflix has are also revealing. Have a look; you may be surprised.
By C jay on 11/06/2008 10:19 pm