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Politics | 06/03/2008 2:51 pm

Women on the Web Forum: Hillary Announcement Watch at wowOwow

By The Staff at wowOwow.com
AP

Here’s your chance to weigh in on tonight’s historic speech and be heard across the globe.

Tonight is the big night for Sen. Clinton, and we’re watching FOXNews.com as news of her announcement breaks (click here to follow for the latest as the story breaks).

Is this the end or just the beginning? Will the New York senator declare she’s soldiering on to the convention, or will she throw in the towel, putting an end to the race that never ends? Tonight we’ll find out what’s next for the woman who has come farther than any other in her bid to become president.

During and after her speech, join your wowOwow community right here to discuss and vent, celebrate or commiserate — and add your voice to what the women on the web are saying.

Hillary Watch. Tonight at wowowow.com. Stay tuned — and weigh in.

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Frank Peterson
Yes Elizabeth, Fox news? Might as well hold a seance as to listen to Fox—you’d probably get better information. As for writing her in: I’ve wanted and waited to see a woman in the White House for decades now but it’s probably not going to happen this term. Delegates are finally jumping of the fence where they’ve sat through the entire campaign and are flocking to Obama. Stop a moment and think about this: a black man in the White House—when I voted for John Kennedy in my first vote for the presidency the thought of a woman in the WH was so far in the future that few thought about it or even let the possibility into the minds. The same thing about a black man in the WH—unthinkable and now 40+ years later we have both. I find that amazing and incredible and I’m so happy I lived to see this day. I don’t know about the rest of you but that that makes my century. That gives me hope finally after 40 years of incompetents and snake oil salesmen in the WH that the impossible is coming true. That is so incredible that I am stunned and elated by it all. Finally.
By Frank Peterson on 06/03/2008 5:09 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Rosanne Roseannadanna’s Broadcast Journalism Test: If you can pass this test then you too could be a broadcast journalist. 1. Take a match and light it. 2. Now, take the end that’s on fire and touch your pinky with it. 3. Say, “Ouch!” How did you say ouch? 1. Were you loud? 2. Did you enunciate? 3. Did you smile? 4. Did you say it with credibility? 5. Could you say it sitting behind a desk? 6. Could you say it with a weatherperson standing behind you? 7. Could you say it at 6:00 and again at 11:00?” From Roseanne Roseannadanna’s “Hey, Get Back to Work!” Book
By Mugsy Peabody on 06/03/2008 9:22 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Well, I read a lot, and actually remember some of it. But oh, oh oh oh oh do I miss Ms. Gilda.
By Mugsy Peabody on 06/04/2008 12:16 am
Frannie Em
Mugsy, Thanks for that. I miss her. Do you remember the one on SNL where she was giving a “society report” and she was talking about Halston and the “toi-le paper stuck on his shoe” bit? I still laugh at that one when it runs every so often in my head.
By Frannie Em on 06/03/2008 11:42 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Violins on television? Of course there have to be violins on television! How ELSE can you have music….” “What?” “Oh. Well, that makes a difference. Never mind….”
By Mugsy Peabody on 06/04/2008 3:25 am
Linda Clark
Marvelous Mugsy!
By Linda Clark on 06/04/2008 4:38 pm
To the beach ~~~
The great Ted Sorensen (JFK’s speech writer/alter-ego) at JFK Library speaking to a crowd about his new book, said it was no accident that Ted Kennedy endorsed Barack Obama at American University, site of JFK’s famous peace speech. He said neither he nor JFK were ever more themselves than in that moment and speech. He is now partially blind from a stroke and thrilled to have revived hope. He said: “‘I MAY not be able to see you but I have more vision than the president of the United States.” Over 1,000 people gathered to hear JFK’s speechwriter discuss his new book, “Counselor: A Life at the Edge of History.” Those who expected a satisfying draught of the old Kennedy mystique were not disappointed. In the conclusion to his book, Sorensen writes, “Today’s sorry political leadership, so different from JFK’s, spurred me on as I wrote, rekindling my memory and reinvigorating my conscience.” Sorensen draws credit as Kennedy’s soaring wordsmith. But perhaps that vigorous conscience was more to the point than rhetorical flair. Coming of age during the unquestioned World War II, the young Nebraskan took for granted that he would serve in the army, but the war ended when he was 17. The next year, registering for the draft, Sorensen applied for noncombatant service as a conscientious objector. He would serve his country in the military, as a medic perhaps, but, he explained to the draft board, “I could kill no man … I am what is called a pacifist.” Sorensen’s application for conscientious objector status would be used against Kennedy, would feature in Sorensen’s secret FBI file, and, eventually, would destroy his chances of becoming Jimmy Carter’s CIA director in 1976. An underappreciated fact of history is that Kennedy, remembered as the paradigmatic cold warrior, so intimately depended on a man who boldly renounced any glorification of belligerence. No surprise, then, that the most important Kennedy-Sorensen collaboration is equally unappreciated - the resounding declaration of peace that Kennedy delivered as a commencement address at American University 45 years ago next week. After staring into the abyss of nuclear war over Berlin and Cuba, Kennedy chose that June as the “time and place to discuss a topic on which ignorance too often abounds and truth is too rarely perceived - yet it is the most important topic on earth: world peace.” That speech went beyond the reviled Neville Chamberlain (“peace for our time”) by calling for “not merely peace in our time, but peace for all time.” Instead of aiming, with Woodrow Wilson, to “make the world safe for democracy,” the speech proposed to “make the world safe for diversity,” a step back from triumphalist claims made for American democracy during the Cold War. Most momentously, the speech broke with the Cold War judgmentalism that always blamed the attitudes of the other side, proposing instead “that we must examine our own attitudes - as individuals and as a nation - for our attitude is as essential as theirs” in causing conflict. The speech rejected Cold War demonizing, for “no government or social system is so evil that its people must be considered as lacking in virtue.” Here was an American president proclaiming the need for self-criticism, and affirming the possible goodness of the enemy. In calling for new structures of international law and negotiations toward disarmament, and in declaring a moratorium on atmospheric nuclear testing, the American University speech marked the end of JFK’s rhetoric of toughness. “For in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children’s future. And we are all mortal.” The speech was heard loud and clear in the Soviet Union. Little more than a month later, the Partial Test Ban Treaty was agreed to, the beginning of the arms control regime that saved the world - what Kennedy called a shaft of light cutting into the darkness. Ted Sorenson was never more himself than in the work he did for the American University speech. Neither, he believes, was Kennedy. The journey of the war-hero president and the pacifist he trusted was a progression this nation desperately needs to resume. No accident that it was at American University in January that Senator Edward Kennedy endorsed Barack Obama. “A new leader and a new era are on the way,” Sorensen concludes in his book, and I will continue to fight, to write, and to hope.” ———————— I feel just as Ted Sorensen says….I have worked incredibly hard for 7 years at a cost of hundreds of thousand of dollars to me….to fight, and write, and tonight for the first time in those 7 years, I have real hope and feel that my efforts were not in vain. Bless JFK, RFK, Teddy Kennedy, Ted Sorensen and Barack Obama….Those band of brothers…the coruscatingly brilliant and sane. We are breaking out the champagne….this is one of the happiest nights of the last 7 years. JFK—still with a 84% approval rating around the globe—at American University. Senator Obama will be a president like JFK and FDR. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf4eQhrHbKA&feature=related
By To the beach ~~~ on 06/03/2008 11:05 pm
Frannie Em
French Heart Was Ted Sorensen the one who actually penned Profiles In Courage? The ghost writer on it?
By Frannie Em on 06/03/2008 11:49 pm
Frank Peterson
Yes. Frannie—I’m sure John contributed but it was Ted who penned it.
By Frank Peterson on 06/03/2008 11:51 pm
Elizabeth Bennett
Not to be contrary, but both JFK and Ted Sorensen have denied that Ted was the ghostwriter. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiles_in_Courage
By Elizabeth Bennett on 06/04/2008 2:06 pm
mitzi morris
This obvious “historical” puff piece for Obama/Teddy/Sorenson is designed to make Obama appear the next Jack Kennedy and is designed to embellish the Kennedy Legacy which dear Teddy wants so much. And Ted is key here. While reminiscing, please think back to the havoc and destruction Teddy wrought when he stormed the Convention lacking 700 delegate votes, and bareknuckled, backroomed, and conspired to steal the nomination with minus delegates he hoped he convert into pro Kennedy’s by using thuggish politics. He didn’t succeed, but his antics cost the Democrats the Election. Building up the Kennedy legacy has become such a PR goal of Obamatons that I’ve seen blogs call Michelle “Jackie with a tan”. This is pathetic. Teddy is pushing this as is the rest of Kerry,Dean,Brazile,Pelosi as they see Obama new voters as the “new Democratic party” and protecting the Kennedy legend is prime, and dissing the Clintons just as critical to this cabal. We will soon see an onslaught of chutspah and deliberate puff pieces and PR extolling Kennedy/Obama/Jackie/Michelle. Obama has talked about 2016 when his presidency is over. He should address his comments to how it may start.
By mitzi morris on 06/10/2008 3:51 pm
Robert Green
the dem party sold out hc and i feel really sorry for her because she never saw it coming. I’m a democrat, but I will not vote that way in november.
By Robert Green on 06/03/2008 5:15 pm
M L Staats
Mr. Green, seriously, if you are a Democrat and you supported Senator Clinton and all she stood for - considering the platforms of both Clinton and Obama are similar - how can you in good conscience vote Republican? How on earth does that honor what Senator Clinton believes in? Do we not all agree that after this administration, we NEED a Democratic administration? I cannot believe Mrs. Clinton would want you to nor would she encourage you to vote for Senator McCain.
By M L Staats on 06/03/2008 5:38 pm
Bonnie Oliver
Hillary Clinton said it herself. There are only two candidates in this race who are qualified to be Commander-in-Chief. Senator McCain and herself. Reason enough?
By Bonnie Oliver on 06/03/2008 5:47 pm
Elizabeth Bennett
She did not actually say that. She said something else and it was rewritten to say that. Here is what she actually said, when she was trying to beat Obama for the nomination, back in March: “Look I have said Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign, I will bring a lifetime of experience, and Senator Obama will bring a speech he made in 2002.”
By Elizabeth Bennett on 06/03/2008 6:06 pm