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Lily Tomlin | 03/08/2008 12:59 pm

Women's Work

Lily Tomlin

 

I was born 68 years ago – three years before the article below was written. My mother’s O.B. doctor came into her hospital room after she’d recovered from anesthesia and identified the sex of her newborn baby girl — me — by saying, "Mrs. Tomlin, congratulations! You’ve got a brand new little dishwasher."

For International Women’s Day, a friend sent me a fuzzy photocopy of a page from something called Transportation Magazine, 1943. It was written for male supervisors of women in the work force during World War II.

1943 Guide to Hiring Women

Eleven tips on getting more efficiency out of women employees: there’s no longer any question whether transit companies should hire women for jobs formerly held by men. The draft and manpower shortage has settled that point. The important things now are to select the most efficient women available and how to use them to the best advantage.

Here are eleven helpful tips on the subject from Western Properties:

1. Pick young married women. They usually have more of a sense of responsibility than their unmarried sisters, they’re less likely to be flirtatious, they need the work or they wouldn’t be doing it, they still have the pep and interest to work hard and to deal with the public efficiently.

2. When you have to use older women, try to get ones who have worked outside the home at some time in their lives. Older women who have never contacted the public have a hard time adapting themselves and are inclined to be cantankerous and fussy. It’s always well to impress upon older women the importance of friendliness and courtesy.

3. General experience indicates that “husky” girls – those who are just a little on the heavy side – are more even tempered and efficient than their underweight sisters.

4. Retain a physician to give each woman you hire a special physical examination – one covering female conditions. This step not only protects the property against the possibilities of lawsuit, but reveals whether the employee-to-be has any female weaknesses which would make her mentally or physically unfit for the job.

5. Stress at the outset the importance of time the fact that a minute of two lost here and there makes serious inroads on schedules. Until this point is gotten across, service is likely to be slowed up.

6. Give the female employee a definite day-long schedule of duties so that they’ll keep busy without bothering the management for instructions every few minutes. Numerous properties say that women make excellent workers when they have their jobs cut out for them, but that they lack initiative in finding work themselves.

7. Whenever possible, let the inside employee change from one job to another at some time during the day. Women are inclined to be less nervous and happier with change.

8. Give every girl an adequate number of rest periods during the day. You have to make some allowances for feminine psychology. A girl has more confidence and is more efficient if she can keep her hair tidied, apply fresh lipstick and wash her hands several times a day.

9. Be tactful when issuing instructions or in making criticisms. Women are often sensitive; they can’t shrug off harsh words the way men do. Never ridicule a women – it breaks her spirit and cuts off her efficiency.

10. Be reasonably considerate about using strong language around women. Even though a girl’s husband or father may swear vociferously, she’ll grow to dislike a place of business where she hears too much of this.

11. Get enough size variety in operator’s uniforms so that each girl can have a proper fit. This point can’t be stressed enough in keeping women happy.

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Liz Pop
The article is intriguing, yet horrifying at the same time. I’m so glad to be living and working in the time I live in now. I don’t think I could have survived back then - but perhaps I wouldn’t have known any better, or any different. Can you imagine all the women in the past who never reached their full potential. What inventions have we missed? What cures have gone undiscovered? What brilliance has never shone? All I can say is push it forward sisters. Don’t give up and don’t back down.
By Liz Pop on 03/11/2008 1:12 pm
Su Falcon
LOL! I’m in my mid-fifties, a single mom, an active volunteer for my church, and I run my own business. I started working as in independent contractor a zillion years ago because I wasn’t interested in dealing with corporate politics—particularly sexual politics. This started when I was 18 and working at the front desk of a major hotel chain. Loved the public contact, loved the work (which I was really good at) and asked what I’d need to do to become a manager. Was told that maybe, if I got a specialized degree in something or another, I might have a chance at a promotion. I pointed out that my current manager was not “degreed,” and was told “but he’s not a woman.” I still occasionally run into such attitudes with clients. I usually drop them fast. If I don’t, I usually regret it. Yes, ladies, those attitudes still linger. But you don’t have to put up with it. Your life is yours. Your career is yours. Take control. Did you know that the longest rule on the English throne was QUEEN Victoria? And that when Elizabeth took the throne, her country was a bankrupt, second class power. During her rule, she turned it around, got it viable, and made it the most powerful country in the Western hemisphere. Neither of these women asked for permission—they just got busy and did what needed to be done. We can follow their examples!
By Su Falcon on 03/11/2008 3:30 pm
Nancy Hamilton
Jeanne, Of course you are right! Nurses are amazingly well trained health professionals and every bit as much of a “high achieving woman” as is a physician. In my mother’s defense (and I suppose my own), it was the early 1970s and she wanted to make the point that I need not limit myself to traditional female roles. My dad on the other hand thought I should teach piano, that way I could “make a little pen money and still take care of the house and kids.” Again, my appologies. I frequently work with nurses and have a high degree of respect for their medical training.
By Nancy Hamilton on 03/11/2008 4:01 pm
Niles Dolbeare
In 1943, 17 year old Princess Elizabeth (now Queen Elizabeth II) was a mechanic in the British Army, which meant she drove a lot, though she wasn’t a bus driver (next stop, Balmoral!) I wonder how many of the 11 rules above Elizabeth’s superiors thought should apply to her? I’m writing from my home located in Rosie the Riveter National Park in Richmond, CA, named for the women welded the WWII Victory Ships. In 1943, my grandmother wasn’t in the shipyards, but she was in middle management in the Federal Government, working to change the attitudes of bureaucrats who wrote these types of memos (starting with her husband.)
By Niles Dolbeare on 03/12/2008 3:09 am
MARY ANN MANN
I was born in 1943 and I am a VERY late bloomer. :~) First, please let me take this opportunity to express my gratitude from her to Mars and back again to all of the women who have put to gether this web site and also some others who’s names I haven’t yet seen here. Not just for the web site, but for the years of setting examples for myself and other women to allow us to know that we really are not just OK, but really very special people in our own right. Sometimes it’s really difficult to see through all the “put-downs” if they’re constant in our lives…I have learned so much from some of the women in movies, names too numerous to mention…but to make it short I always wanted the opportunity to say THANK YOU, for the guidance and for playing some of the roles that we all play everyday because we have to, and get no pats on the head for… As I’m writing this I’m looking at the entry before mine from W.M. MARX. About 10 years after I married my husband was “down sized” (before the word was uttered by anyone)…we had just bought a new home and moved 3000 miles with out 2 small children. At the same time technology had changed and both my husband and I had basically become obsolete in the work force. I know I’m not alone in the nightmare that followed…but I took any job I could find: mail carier, laundry attendant, truck driver, cleaned bathrooms, paper route & cooked lunches for people to name a few. We lost everything except us…but somehow made it …a few brain cells are missing and the body has been through a war…but I’m greatful that I’m still here. You are all beautiful, very special women. Love you all! Mary Ann p.s. I’ve also driven over a million miles with a squeaky clean motor vehicle record.
By MARY ANN MANN on 03/12/2008 8:09 am
Deborah Metcalfe
I turned on the TV this morning to see Lilly tomlin and others from this site.  First let me say that Lilly tomlin is one of my favs.  I even got hung up on by an operator because I was doing the one ringy-dingy thing.  (To funny).  I think this is great what you gals are doing, and I sent the URL to both of my girls one 20 years old and the other 18 years old.  I was born in 1962.  I didn’t know it then, but there were allot of woman paving the way for me to be who I am today.  I am very strong with my own mind and I get told what to do by few.  Thank you to all of you woman that are on this site, and thank you to all the woman that fought the hard fight so that myself and my daughters can be the strong woman that we are.
By Deborah Metcalfe on 03/12/2008 8:23 am
Teresa Bristol
When I started high school in the late 60’s, I wanted to take courses that would prepare me for college but my mother said I had to take the business courses because I would soon go “boy crazy” and let my grades slip. Well I didn’t go “boy crazy” but my grades did slip a little — in my Junior year I got a couple of Bs. Then for Career Day I went to the seminar on Computer Sciences because I thought computers are great and I wanted to get involved with the new technology. The first sentence out of the briefers mouth was that “girls are not good in the math and sciences so girls couldn’t success in Computer Sciences.” Yes some 30 years later I still remember that sentence. I looked around the room and it was SRO with me the only female. Now I’m considered the “expert” in my office for computer problems. While I didn’t get that degree, I have taken many courses and have embraced the technology ever since they put that first computer in front of me. I’ve spent 30 years in the military and can appreciate the changes for women during those years. One thing I’ll never forget — in 1973 during the last week in Basic Training we had a class on wearing make-up, hair styling and how to walk like a lady (since we’ve been marching for the last 5 weeks). Times certainly have changed.
By Teresa Bristol on 03/12/2008 9:40 am
S. West
Thanks for your note Ann Ray…it is troubling that many younger women do not seem to have an adequate education about the f-word and their own more comfortable histories (feminism: yeeks! there, I said it, and I’m not backspacing it either). Women’s communities help us remember our old songs and stories, and get in touch with new ones. Thanks to all the fearless Sisters who played sports (and never dropped any parts!), studied hard, dreamed harder and cultivated the beauty of lying on the floor looking into their pets’ eyes! http://www.amazonation.com/index.html Welcome to the web wOw…we’ve missed you! http://www.lhasaandshihtzumania.com
By S. West on 03/12/2008 11:15 am
rosie rancher
i was born in 1953, my mother in 1921. she WAS this woman, driving streetcars, then busses in san diego california during ww2. the magazine this came from would, of course promote this “manner” of dealing with women in the workforce. some of those methods still are used, and not just by MEN in the workplace. and ps..i too have driven over a million miles as a commercial truck driver.
By rosie rancher on 03/12/2008 1:26 pm
linda grossman
hi ms. tomlin - althought not relevant to this converation - have to tell you ms. tomlin how much i miss west wing - especially your part and most especially all the wonderful bakelite jewelry you wore - why? because we have an shop online - specializing in vintage bakelite jewelry - evelynnesoldiesbutgoodies.com - my mom and i are partners - have been for 30 years - we are two very smart women (if i must say so myself) who happen to be mother and daugther - and just love the business!
By linda grossman on 03/12/2008 7:33 pm
Z GG
My mom is 91 and was brainwashed by that kind of attitude. She was in the WACS in WWII (receptionist) and then worked as an airline ticket agent until she married my dad. She has always refused to go to a female doctor or dentist because “they aren’t as good as men”. Luckily my dad insisted my sister and I pursue any career we wanted. Mom was frantic when I was 29 and unmarried. Dad said “You’re happy? I’m happy.” Even in the ‘80’s there was subtle/not so subtle discrimination. I worked for a government agency and was excluded from attending out of town (not overnight, just a couple hours from our office) meetings on my projects at times….because the engineer assigned to work with me said “I can’t take a single woman with me to these meetings, my wife would kill me!” It was like being excluded from the golf course where all the men played and cut deals. And I was paid less than the guy in the next cube, hired at the same time, at the same pay level. But on the whole, once out of that job, my career has gone very well in terms of advancement and pay raises. I am now happily married to a great guy my age (50) who cooks, cleans, runs errands, and before he leaves for work at an ungodly hour, brings me the newspaper and my (ha-ha) reading glasses. His mom was a British “war bride” who was widowed young and taught all four of her kids to be responsible and sent her daughter to college even though her husband’s Finnish family was appalled at the “waste” of money.
By Z GG on 03/13/2008 9:54 pm
Z GG
P.S. While working at a planning agency in FL in the mid ‘80’s to mid ‘90’s, we would get a lot of old men come in to protest development projects in the area (we had a huge number of retirees). They’d demand to speak to the “person in charge”. Well, if it was my project, I’d get called to the counter and lots of them would say “I was expecting a man”. I’d turn around and get a co-worker and return to the counter and say “This is my secretary, STEVE, he’ll be happy to help you.” Young guy, long hair, beard, earring. It never failed to get a hilarious reaction.
By Z GG on 03/13/2008 10:00 pm
Judy m.
I was born the year this was written. When I became pregnant in 1970 I had to leave my teaching career because I would be in front of the pupils. It took me many years and working my way back up the career ladder after my children were old enough for me to go back to work. I would like to think that times have changed but sometimes I think only the words have. We are stuck on looking at women through the eyes of men. Until we can look past the issue of sexuality and accept the credentials for what they are- I think we still need much improvement.
By Judy m. on 03/14/2008 6:03 pm
Pamela Munro
It was shock to me, as a Barnard graduate in 1969, that the only thing any prospective employer wanted to know was “How fast could I type?” Answer: 35 wpm on a good day! I jsut couldn’t get a JOB. Finally, a friend steered me to the Columbia Univ. Library - where my languages came in handy - but I had to lie and say I wanted to become a librarian (hence the tuition benefits would keep me there for years…) I got the job & learned about bluffing. Then, when I had gotten my M.A., I was told that I could continue, but there were NO JOBS. (And I didn’t want to encur needless debt, thank heaven.) I have run into countless obstacles, and I am a well-educated, intelligent, attractive female. I even played the role of Hollywood secretary until I had to retire due to my murderous impulses towards those who thought they were my superiors and treated me like a member of servant class. But my wide-ranging experience has taught me understanding, humility, and a great deal of compassion. I wish more of our elite members of society both male and female had some mandatory civil service (a la army training) that would put them in touch, however briefly, with the world everyone else lives in. I am sure it would have a positive effect on any future leader or even supervisor.
By Pamela Munro on 04/03/2008 6:23 pm
Buh- Bye
Sadly these same hiring principles seem to hold true in the capitol.
By Buh- Bye on 04/11/2008 4:15 pm