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The Greatest Depression | 12/05/2008 9:12 am

The wowOwow Economic Melt-Down Reader Forum

Let’s pull together…and share our stories and thoughts about the economy and about the stunning November jobless number
By The Staff of wowOwow

This long line of hopeful job applicants circling an entire city block was the scene in Gotham right before Thanksgiving as one of Manhattan’s toniest Fifth Avenue hotels held a job fair sponsored by Monster.com.   Those of us in New York are becoming used to these scenes; this week another open job call at an American Apparel store also resulted in long lines. We in this city are dealing with massive layoffs in the media and in the financial sector.  But we’re also anxious to hear what our wowOwow audience of the most aware women in America are seeing and hearing in their own lives and own towns from coast to coast. 

As the stunning news about the November job losses sinks in, please take a few moments to share with your friends here on wowOwow.

Many, many thanks. 

40 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Belinda Joy
I manage a small family law firm that specializes in divorce. A majority of our clientele are affluent with businesses and net wealth in the millions. The most striking thing I’ve noticed as of late is that a majority of our clients are being affected by the economy and have had to lay off on a massive level. This of course affects their net wealth and as a consequence many are panicked wondering how it will affect any financial agreements with their soon to be exes. For some of the clients who aren’t as affluent, they have had to rethink divorce at this time because both parties realize they can’t afford to split. The costs associated with buying a second home, paying all the legal fees and possible cash pay out to their spouse….it’s to overwhelming for them to even consider.
By Belinda Joy on 12/05/2008 11:05 am
J. Stephens
If you want to read a really great article about the economy read what Barry Diller has to say: blogs.reuters.com/summits/2008/12/04/diller-to-profitable-companies-lay-off-the-layoffs
By J. Stephens on 12/05/2008 12:02 pm
Bella Mia
I thought it was interesting what he had to say about the spending by wealthy people. They aren’t spending on a grand scale anymore because it seems unseemly - and I’m sure they don’t want to be critisized. I noticed it at the Alfred Smith dinner when Obama made some remark about all the fancy food, and big party while people were struggling, insinuating that it was unseemly. I instantly thought of all the hotel staff, and fishermen, and pastry chefs, and grocers and dry cleaners, and the taxes via the services provided by the hotel, etc - all the income generated because some rich people decided to throw a benefit. I think those “little people” were very grateful. I would think that people would realize that it is GOOD for the rich to spend money, and lots of it. Populism spreads the opposite message: Rich people spending money is a travesty that must be punished with higher taxes. The rich will stop spending their money in part to avoid the critisism of appearing “unseemly” during a recession (Diller’s message)- the exact opposite of what would be good for the economy.
By Bella Mia on 12/08/2008 12:27 am
beverly linens
Bella Mia, I remember years ago when a huge tax was put on yachts. The thinking was rich people could afford it. Then yacht building firms went out of business. Then dealerships went out of business. Then docks and yacht clubs went out of business. I don’t recall how many jobs were lost but the general consensus was we are all connected.
By beverly linens on 12/13/2008 1:03 am
James the Game
We’d kill for that jobless number in Michigan. Try 9.3 percent. And it would probably be closer to 30%, but so many people have just given up. It’s a full-fledged depression here, not a recession.
By James the Game on 12/05/2008 2:58 pm
irish bell
As a fellow Michiganian, I agree things are depressingly bleak here. i know a couple friends who have recently lost their jobs. I’m talking middle-aged people with no other prospects in sight. I honestly don’t know what they’ll do, other than unemployment, for now.
By irish bell on 12/05/2008 5:10 pm
Chris Broersma
And for those who still have jobs here in Michigan there have been hours and pay cuts, too. And that proverbial “sword of Damocles” is hanging over everyone’s head as to whether there will even BE jobs after Christmas!
By Chris Broersma on 12/06/2008 11:08 am
James the Game
We’re getting enough snow, eh, Chris? I’m in G.R. this weekend - 30 miles from Lake Michigan - and it’s a major snowstorm. I went to a Black Belt test (sat on the testing panel) today, came outside two hours later, and there were five inches of new snow on my car. From Friday to Monday, I think some folks are going to get 17 inches or more. You’re even closer than me to Lake Mich., so you’re probably getting hit harder there .
By James the Game on 12/06/2008 2:16 pm
irish bell
I’m just a few miles south of GR, and this snow is crazy. Why do I think every year that maybe it won’t come back? Delusional, I guess. Witnessed 2 accidents in the last 24 hours, people forget slow and steady gets you there in one piece.
By irish bell on 12/06/2008 4:08 pm
James the Game
Yeah, you’re in Kalamazoo, right? I-94’s too narrow down there for the traffic flow. Crazy around the Sprinkle Road exit near Wings Stadium.
By James the Game on 12/06/2008 9:05 pm
irish bell
Caledonia, actually. Which really is just barely south of GR. Speaking of Kzoo, I haven’tt been there in years. But I did go to the occasional concert there during my years at MSU. Eric Clapton, Rod Stewart , (a couple others I can’t recall at this early hour)- good times!
By irish bell on 12/07/2008 7:48 am
James the Game
I’m in Cutlerville, 9 miles south of downtown G.R. So, you’re literally only a few miles from me! Ha! By the way, I assume you meant Kalamazoo-based WMU (Western Michigan University), not MSU, which is in Lansing. Are you near M-37, or closer to 131?
By James the Game on 12/07/2008 9:45 am
irish bell
I’m a Sparty, through and through. Wings stadium was just barely opened way back then and we thought nothing of piling in a car and driving from Lansing to Kzoo for a concert, which back then probably cost all of $20. I am smack dab in between M6 and 131. I’m off and on at this site, but when I first came here- I remember reading some posts by another gent from GR. It is a small world indeed!
By irish bell on 12/07/2008 11:01 am
James the Game
That gent was probably me, Bell. I’ve been on WoW since May. Maybe, just as friends (ha), you and I ought to meet for a diet Coke at Russ’s Restaurant or Sandy’s Restaurant on Division, just north of 68th Street, some weekend day (I’m usually in G.R. on weekends, in Lansing during the week). It sounds like you’re near 68th St and Hanna Lake, in the Dutton area, or Crystal Springs? Here’s my Email, if you want it: j.gemmell@comcast.net Yeah, Wings Stadium opened in 1973. I’ve been to many great concerts there, including the legendary one by Deep Purple in May 1987, where Ritchie Blackmore kept slinging his guitar all the way across the stage into the amps. Cheers.
By James the Game on 12/07/2008 1:40 pm
irish bell
Thanks for the invite, I’ve got your email. My crazy concert goin’ days were pretty much over by 1987, as I had 2 kids by then! But they sure were some fun times. If I remember correctly, for the Rod Stewart concert-circa 1976- I was on crutches ( sprained knee) and it was in the middle of winter, but it was worth every slippery step I took.
By irish bell on 12/09/2008 7:23 am