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Politics | 09/02/2008 9:29 am

The wowOwow Reader Forum on Governor Palin

The comments haven’t stopped here at wowOwow since the stunning news on Friday that John McCain, Maverick, had selected Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska, a novice on the national stage, to join him on the Republican ticket.  Many of our wowOwow contributors have weighed in on their thoughts, as have many readers.  Now, as new news emerges about the Governor, speculation continues at a fevered pitch.  We welcome your insights both positive and negative and neutral on this, the second day of the Republican convention

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Frank Peterson
Jin—the man’s fricking impossible at times lol
By Frank Peterson on 09/02/2008 11:33 am
Diana T
All I know is that, at the age of 20, I was pregnant twice with about a 6 weeks hiatus. Kids were born 10mos.2wks apart. It isn’t hard to be pregnant 18 mos in a row when one is at the epitome of the reproduction years. But, that is not why I am still horrified and angry about this choice of McCain’s. I still feel it is irresponible and wreckless. I have been reading the words of some of our Statesmen leaders of the past. And, when I get deep inside their words, I realize just how mediocre our thinking in this day and age has become. I spent a lot of time reading the posts in the various sections of wow, and it was sad to see how absolutely mean-spirited so many of them were, and how there were comments flung out with no regard or knowledge of our history, Constitution, or any desire to work towards a united front. I am going to get slammed for saying: Ignorance is the first step to the decline of a nation. Go all the way back to the Greeks, and you will see the pattern. Hence, the quotation, “Knowledge is power”. Knowledge protects us from manipulation of facts and revisionist history. This nomination has nothing to do with capturing Hillary Clinton’s female voters. It has to do with the power of a certain group that has taken over the Republican Party. I do not for one moment think that the moderate Republicans are pleased with this nomination; but, for the sake of the party, they are going to put on their happy faces. Of course, and I empathise with them. And, please, those of you that already have your fingers poised over the keys to reprimand me for insinuating that anyone who is supporting Palin is ignorant or stupid. I’M NOT trying to insinuate that at all. It is a very shrewd choice on the part of Karl Rove and the other advisors on the McCain team. No. I am trying to emphasize the cyncism that has crept in the Party in the name of James Dobson and the Christian Coalition, and the Pro-Life folks. Those issues are all that matter to them. Nothing else, not the economy, the war, and certainly women equal rights. I listened to the Charlie Rose speakers very carefully last night. And they all were very complimentary of Palin’s personality, and the fact she is a quick learner, but, each and every one of them said that the only way, the only way McCain can expect to win this thing is to appeal to the base and the base is the religious right. Now, they know a heckuva lot more than I do, but I think this bears thinking about. I do not believe in Creationism. I am not an Evangelistic Christian. I believe in Choice and the Equal Rights of Women. I believe in Diplomacy before starting wars. I am sick of the Corporate owner ship of our economy. I am worried about the un-raveling of our united front in all issues, and our population’s refusal to consider the greater good for us all. I agree with the world’s scientists that have proven, PROVEN that global warming is being exasperated by man. I am against the constant use of oil, I want more R&D for alternative fuels and I am convinced we should go into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. So….obviously, there is no place for me in the Republican Party. What else can people like me do? Bob Barr, Ralph Nader or Ron Paul? Sarah Palin is an intelligent, ambitious woman. She is a quick study. She has a heck of a lot more personal appeal than McCain, and will appear to soften his famous temper. But, capable and prepared to be president if something should happen? She has admitted that she doesn’t know that much about the Iraqi war. She hasn’t ever appeared on the Sunday Rounds; indeed hasn’t really made any statements on what she does know and believe on an international front. She has never been in an international news conference. She also does not appear curious about current issues, other than the pro-life movement. She represents big oil, apparently. Sorry, I will do all I can to defeat the McCain/Palin ticket in my community. One more thing: While I do not mind discussing any issue in a forum, I will not respond any longer to the diatribes and name calling that has appeared on my email. And, to those of you who think that just because someone is disagreeing with your candidate, that is bashing, well, no that isn’t. It is called debate, and if a candidate can’t handle the reality of modern campaigning(because it is terribly hurtful,exhausting, and just plain rough), they should quit, because eventually, they will be treated like anyone else that runs for office.
By Diana T on 09/02/2008 12:04 pm
Frank Peterson
Huzzah! well said Diana—well said indeed—you have hit the nail on the head. You have brought athe inportant issues to the front and dealt with them in an intelligent way. Excellent, my friend, excellent.
By Frank Peterson on 09/02/2008 12:15 pm
BG mom
Diana, I have appreciated your civil and articulate postings all weekend. I agree with your concerns and will be fighting for the changes I believe we need to make a more compassionate, healthy, successful and safe American society. The one good thing I see about this nomination is it pushes women to articulate our beliefs, values and hopes for our country’s future. It forces us to stand up and say that not all women share the same political agenda. I am a woman, a mother, a Christian and I do not support the McCain/Palin ticket! In fact as a mother, Christian and a woman, it is my duty to stand up and fight for the Obama/Biden ticket.
By BG mom on 09/02/2008 12:17 pm
Diana T
Thank you, BG, for the encouragement. I get so frustrated when the Evangelical James Dobsons of the world try to lump us into one category. This is not why the Constitution was conceived. And, I think also why I am so upset with this nomination is that there are those that really are convinced that just because we are women, we are only concerned with their political agenda and not thinking about current events, war, economy, and environmental issues. I know I am a policy wonk; I am always reading white papers and think-tank forums, but we have to stick to the issues here. I am convinced that the Rove team that thought of this are very aware that this is a diversion(cynical, too) to keep us off the main topics of the very issues we are supposed to be thinking about. I am very active in my church, and that is the reason I am fightfing for Obama/Biden. And, thank you again, BG.
By Diana T on 09/02/2008 12:32 pm
Bonnie D-Z
Diana, you’ve given those of us “sitting on the fence” much to think about. “It’s the issues, stupid!”, isn’t it. Thanks for your post.
By Bonnie D-Z on 09/02/2008 4:10 pm
Frannie Em
Diana, I think you have made a precise and stirring statement about what concerns you about the state of our country. I have many of the same concerns. Where I am confused is, aren’t you voting for Obama? Or are did you want to vote for the Republican ticket? “So…. obviously, there is no place for me in the Republican Party.” Did you want to become a republican? It never seemed that way before. I think I got lost up there somewhere.
By Frannie Em on 09/02/2008 4:27 pm
Diana T
Frannie Em, I left the Republican Party when it no longer had anything to do with my domestic view or my world view. And, in my personal opinion, the party sold out to its base, which is the religious right, pro-life, neo-conservative group.. In my neck of the woods, there aren’t very many moderate republicans. Yes, I am supporting the Obama/Biden ticket. And, I have been a Democrat for about 25 years. I think I made myself very clear in my posting above.
By Diana T on 09/02/2008 4:30 pm
C A Rose
Diana, Very thoughtful and well stated. I share your views. I never could have presented them as well as you just did. Thank you very much, CA
By C A Rose on 09/03/2008 1:03 am
MaryPage Drake
Very clear thinking!
By MaryPage Drake on 09/03/2008 10:32 am
Brooklyn Gal
Well, I knew she would energize the base, and she did. After the announcement, the McCain campaign got a $10 million boost. (I wouldn’t be surprised if most of that came from the oil industry, NRA, etc.) According to the conversation on Charlie Rose last night, Repubs polling found that the “experience” issue was not a hot-button factor among most voters, so they needed to do something to shake things up. This announcement did just that. Of course if Palin cannot handle the press or the tough questions from voters, this whole thing will backfire. I hope this information wakes up the Fat-Cat Hillary contributors who have not yet written checks to Obama. I know I will be making a contribution to the Obama campaign.
By Brooklyn Gal on 09/02/2008 10:49 am
I.M. Kane
Let’s face it. A week ago most people had never heard of Sarah Palin. Today, everyone is a Palin authority. Unfortunately, the news and spin is coming out so fast, it’s difficult for some to separate fact from fiction. That does none of us any good. Everyone needs to take a step back and breathe. If at all possible, put yourself in the shoes of others, and give everyone the respect and dignity they deserve. As Barack Obama recently stated, “Change doesn’t come from Washington, change comes to Washington.” Allow yourself to be an example of the kind of change you want our leaders to embody. Just a thought.
By I.M. Kane on 09/02/2008 11:12 am
Marjorie C.
I. M.: “respect and dignity” Respect and dignity? Not subjects that play well on this site. My opinion: No matter what happens to Sarah Palin’s political future, she will do well. And I am happy for her.
By Marjorie C. on 09/02/2008 12:01 pm
Roberta Barens
I believe that Palin’s experience in Alaska will not begin to prepare her for what she will experience in DC and around the world. She may feel that she is ready, but I’m concerned that she has no real context to compare it to. It is like the proverbial fish trying to understand the concept of fire. No real context. With regards to her daughter’s pregnancy, I’m surprised that there has not been more concern for the forced marraige of these two children. Forcing an 18 year old young man/boy into a marraige when he has already stated that he does not want children is far more irresponsible, in my opinion, than the pregnancy in the first place. Carry the baby to full term, if that is your belief and desire. Don’t compound the mistake with a marriage!
By Roberta Barens on 09/02/2008 11:25 am
Buh- Bye
My friends, who all know me to be a rabid Democrat, have been emailing me and lobbying like crazy for Obama. Sending links, reinforcing the staunch policies of Sarah Palin (always mentioning her pregnant daughter I have noticed) and instructing me that it is derelict duty to not vote for Obama. My soul searching has wrought a different take. Equality has been a lifelong fight on a very personal level. In classes, on sports teams, in leagues, in organizations, corporations, throughout every step of my career. It wasn’t one solitary fight, but a series of them. As a woman you must play the right cards, sometimes hide below the radar, sometimes pretend to ‘be one of the boys’ to break through. (As Palin has been described.) Buck the old boys network and you are out! So you bite your tongue when the sexual baiting begins in board rooms and at meetings. And it always does. The more desirable the business, the more hits you’ll take. Because when competition is fierce it’s the first place they’ll go to get you out. You want the rewards? You take it. More often you need be connected to a powerful male mentor (often a husband) in the same business who can pull you along, fight for you and help you rise up through the ranks to reach your potential. A woman’s place in society continues to be an never-ending battle. Beyond her conservative policies, Sarah Palin is currently being subjected to every sexist tactic in the dismiss-them-because-they-are-second-class-citizens playbook. So mine will remain a protest vote. I cannot endorse a man who decries racism while exercising sexism. I protest.
By Buh- Bye on 09/02/2008 11:30 am