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Politics | 09/03/2008 5:52 am

wowOwow Reader Forum: Governor Palin Addresses RNC

TOne of the most important moments of the campaign unfolded as Sarah Palin took the stage to give the speech of a lifetime.  What will it mean to the women’s movement? What will it mean to the country?  Join in the comments…

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Linda Mason
Jackie — Thanks for your post: as I signed off last night, I wondered if we would hear from anyone from Alaska. Personally, I pay little time listening to pundits — it saves so much time, and they are usually just quoting another pundit or news source, and wondering “what if?” This is, indeed, scary. I wonder: when you say Palin has spent millions of tax dollars on helicopter hunting since she became governor, are you referring to her personally? It would be hard to believe that even hunting 24/7 someone could spend that type of $ in one-two years in office, even on such an expensive habit! And how can she spend tax $ on a personal past-time! How does she justify it — by serving the meat in the state cafeteria?
By Linda Mason on 09/04/2008 10:19 am
Jeannot Kensinger
Dear Jackiie, Thank you for writing this letter. I did not know this bird before last week and feel we know little more but what is being fed us. Like you I can’r imagine seeing her in a VP position let alone a President. Surely we are not going to fall for this. I am all for women being considered for this position, but did we have to go to Alaska for that???? Thanks again for sharing your views from your State.
By Jeannot Kensinger on 09/04/2008 11:51 am
Lucinda Herbert
Sarah is White Trash - this e-mail has been circulating all week long on the internet without a signature. Are you able to tell us who Jackie S. is?
By Lucinda Herbert on 09/04/2008 10:57 pm
Sarah is White Trash
The Gallup Poll and Emily’s List both report Palin does not help MCain with women at all, in fact she is driving them away. She helps him with lonely, locked in/shut in men who haven’t had a women in a long time. As a man in my neighborhood said “She looks like a hot fiest tramp that you want to bed a few times and then dump because you can see she’s trash.” Maureen Dowd and Dr. Laura turned against Palin publicly that something ugly was brewing. The McCain campaign, which must have been drinking heavily last night to pull this out of their increasingly rumpled hat, trotted Ann Coulter out to gripe about Palin’s husband not carrying enough Mr. Mom weight in order to elicit sympathy for their failing Veep pick. I’m sure he appreciated the tips. Tremendously. No idea why anyone thought Ann Coulter was the appropriate parenting skillz messenger, but you work with whomever wants their share of the limelight, I suppose. Since half the GOP has run the hell away from the convention center, with scads of empty seats on the teevee coverage thus far, maybe she and her perpetual cocktail dress had a few spare moments to chitchat. From Emily’s List; “Hard numbers show how sour the female electorate has turned on Palin in less than a week is startling, given that the vast majority of women outside Alaska likely had very little clue who she even was. Looks like women don’t like manipulative tactics or imprudent rolls of the campaign dice. McCain just got served a serious “Dear John” letter.
By Sarah is White Trash on 09/03/2008 11:58 pm
Sarah is White Trash
Americans Against Palin link: scary vids of her radical views. Spread the link. http://impalin.com/
By Sarah is White Trash on 09/04/2008 2:37 am
Sarah is White Trash
Caribou Barbie and Insane McSame=White Trash House
By Sarah is White Trash on 09/04/2008 5:01 am
eleanor roche
Suzanne, you have sunk to a new low here. If anyone is “White Trash” it’s all of you sniping, sneering, gossiping woman trashing Sarah Palin.
By eleanor roche on 09/04/2008 9:49 am
Sarah is White Trash
Caribou Barbie and Insane McSame=White Trash House
By Sarah is White Trash on 09/04/2008 5:01 am
Emcye Edwards
Posted thursday, september 04 2008 @ 07:02 am pdt Tikkun George Lakoff argues that the Republican choice of Palin makes total sense if you truly understand the strategy of the Republicans in this election. The Palin Choice The Reality of the Political Mind by George Lakoff This election matters because of realities-the realities of global warming, the economy, the Middle East, nuclear proliferation, civil liberties, species extinction, poverty here and around the world, and on and on. Such realities are what make this election so very crucial, and how to deal with them is the substance of the Democratic platform. . Election campaigns matter because who gets elected can change reality. But election campaigns are primarily about the realities of voters’ minds, which depend on how the candidates and the external realities are cognitively framed. They can be framed honestly or deceptively, effectively or clumsily. And they are always framed from the perspective of a worldview. The Obama campaign has learned this. The Republicans have long known it, and the choice of Sarah Palin as their Vice-Presidential candidate reflects their expert understanding of the political mind and political marketing. Democrats who simply belittle the Palin choice are courting disaster. It must be t aken with the utmost seriousness. The Democratic responses so far reflect external realities: she is inexperienced, knowing little or nothing about foreign policy or national issues; she is really an anti-feminist, wanting the government to enter women’s lives to block abortion, but not wanting the government to guarantee equal pay for equal work, or provide adequate child health coverage, or child care, or early childhood education; she shills for the oil and gas industry on drilling; she denies the scientific truths of global warming and evolution; she misuses her political authority; she opposes sex education and her daughter is pregnant; and, rather than being a maverick, she is on the whole a radical right-wing ideologue. All true, so far as we can tell. But such truths may nonetheless be largely irrelevant to this campaign. That is the lesson Democrats must learn. They must learn the reality of the political mind. The Obama campaign has done this very well so far. The convention events and speeches were orchestrated both to cast light on external realities, traditional political themes, and to focus on values at once classically American and progressive: empathy, responsibility both for oneself and others, and aspiration to make things better both for oneself and the world. Obama did all this masterfully in his nomination speech, while replying to, and undercutting, the main Republican attacks. But the Palin nomination changes the game. The initial response has been to try to keep the focus on external realities, the “issues,” and differences on the issues. But the Palin nomination is not basically about external realities and what Democrats call “issues,” but about the symbolic mechanisms of the political mind-the worldviews, frames, metaphors, cultural narratives, and stereotypes. The Republicans can’t win on realities. Her job is to speak the language of conservatism, activate the conservative view of the world, and use the advantages that conservatives have in dominating political discourse. Our national political dialogue is fundamentally metaphorical, with family values at the center of our discourse. There is a reason why Obama and Biden spoke so much about the family, the nurturant family, with caring fathers and the family values that Obama put front and center in his Father’s day speech: empathy, responsibility and aspiration. Obama’s reference in the nomination speech to “The American Family” was hardly accidental, nor were the references to the Obama and Biden families as living and fulfilling the American Dream. Real nurturance requires strength and toughness, which Obama displayed in body language and voice in his responses to McCain. The strength of the Obama campaign has been the seamless marriage of reality and symbolic thought. The Republican strength has been mostly symbolic. The McCain campaign is well aware of how Reagan and W won-running on character: values, communicatio n, (apparent) authenticity, trust, and identity - not issues and policies. That is how campaigns work, and symbolism is central. Conservative family values are strict and apply via metaphorical thought to the nation: good vs. evil, authority, the use of force, toughness and discipline, individual (versus social) responsibility, and tough love. Hence, social programs are immoral because they violate discipline and individual responsibility. Guns and the military show force and discipline. Man is above nature; hence no serious environmentalism. The market is the ultimate financial authority, requiring market discipline. In foreign policy, strength is use of the force. In fundamentalist religion, the Bible is the ultimate authority; hence no gay marriage. Such values are at the heart of radical conservatism. This is how John McCain was raised and how he plans to govern. And it is what he shares with Sarah Palin. Palin is the mom in the strict father family, upholding conservative values. Palin is tough: she shoots, skins, and eats caribou. She is disciplined: raising five kids with a major career. She lives her values: she has a Downs-syndrome baby that she refused to abort. She has the image of the ideal conservative mom: pretty, perky, feminine, Bible-toting, and fitting into the ideal conservative family. And she fits the stereotype of America as small-town America. It is Reagan’s morning-in-America image. Where Obama thought of capturing the West, she is running for Sweetheart of the West. And Palin, a member of Feminists For Life, is at the heart of the conservative feminist movement, which Ronee Schreiber has written about in her recent book, Righting Feminism. It is a powerful and growing movement that Democrats have barely paid attention to. At the same time, Palin is masterful at the Republican game of taking the Democrats’ language and reframing it-putting conservative frames to progressive words: Reform, prosperity, peace. She is also masterful at using the progressive narratives: she’s from the working class, working her way up from hockey mom and the PTA to Mayor, Governor, and VP candidate. Her husband is a union member. She can say to the conservative populists that she is one of them-all the things that Obama and Biden have been saying. Bottom-up, not top-down. Yes, the McCain-Palin ticket is weak on the major realities. But it is strong on the symbolic dimension of politics that Republicans are so good at marketing. Just arguing the realities, the issues, the hard truths should be enough in times this bad, but the political mind and its response to symbolism cannot be ignored. The initial Democratic response to Palin - the response based on realities alone - indicates that many Democrats have not learned the lessons of the Reagan and Bush years. They have not learned the nature of conservative populism. A great many working-class folks are what I call “bi-conceptual,” that is, they are split between conservative and progressive modes of thought. Conservative on patriotism and certain social and family issues, which they have been led to see as “moral”, progressive in loving the land, living in communities of care, and practical kitchen table issues like mortgages, health care, wages, retirement, and so on. Conservative theorists won them over in two ways: Inventing and promulgating the idea of “liberal elite” and focusing campaigns on social and family issues. They have been doing this for many years and have changed a lot of brains through repetition. Palin will appeal strongly to conservative populists, attacking Obama and Biden as pointy-headed, tax-and-spend, latte liberals. The tactic is to divert attention from difficult realities to powerful symbolism. What Democrats have shied away from is a frontal attack on radical conservatism itself as an un-American and harmful ideology. I think Obama is right when he says that America is based on people caring about each other and working together for a better future-empathy, responsibility (both personal and social), and aspiration. These lead to a concept of government based on protection (environmental, consumer, worker, health care, and retirement protection) and empowerment (through infrastructure, public education, the banking system, the stock market, and the courts). Nobody can achieve the American Dream or live an American lifestyle without protection and empowerment by the government.20The alternative, as Obama said in his nomination speech, is being on your own, with no one caring for anybody else, with force as a first resort in foreign affairs, with threatened civil liberties and a right-wing government making your most important decisions for you. That is not what American democracy has ever been about. What is at stake in this election are our ideals and our view of the future, as well as current realities. The Palin choice brings both front and center. Democrats, being Democrats, will mostly talk about the realities nonstop without paying attention to the dimensions of values and symbolism. Democrats, in addition, need to call an extremist an extremist: to shine a light on the shared anti-democratic ideology of McCain and Palin, the same ideology shared by Bush and Cheney. They share values antithetical to our democracy. That needs to be said loud and clear, if not by the Obama campaign itself, then by the rest of us who share democratic American values. Our job is to bring external realities together with the reality of the political mind. Don’t ignore the cognitive dimension. It is through cultural narratives, metaphors, and frames that we understand and express our ideals. George Lakoff is the author of The Political Mind: Why You Can’t Understand 20th Century Politics With an 18th Century Brain
By Emcye Edwards on 09/04/2008 2:23 pm
Mugsy Peabody
People, forgive my cutting in line, but I wanted you to know I have posted the list of over 90 books then-Mayor Palin tried to ban from her local library, attempting to fire the librarian when she refused. Because it is so extensive, I have posted the list and the link to the Anchorage Daily News’ story on my blog, mugsypeabody.blogspot.com
By Mugsy Peabody on 09/07/2008 6:35 pm
Diana T
I was thrilled to see the NYTimes editorial today. I agree with it thoroughly. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/opinion/03wed1.html?th&emc=th
By Diana T on 09/03/2008 9:51 am
Rush L
Diana, Fortunately, no matter how strong the logic, the NY Times is a product of people who hate America and want to destroy her. Do you think what the Times thinks can help, or hurt the Democrat nominee? I mean, where this election will be decided. In the swing states in contest (Ohio, Penn, etc.) ?
By Rush L on 09/03/2008 10:07 am
Frank Peterson
Rush you are so full of it it’s unbelievable.
By Frank Peterson on 09/03/2008 3:38 pm
Sarah is White Trash
Palin is currently under investigation for SORDID administrative behavior—her role in a scandal involving the firing of Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan over his reluctance to fire an Alaska state trooper, Mike Wooten—Palin’s former brother-in-law who has been involved in a bitter custody fight with her younger sister, Molly McCann. There have been calls for Palin’s impeachment. There’s an audio tape that confirms interference by Palin’s staff. Monegan claims he has emails documenting Palin’s interference. As one Alaska political blogger noted: “It’s all out there in black & white — drunk driving, foul language, illegal moose hunting, an extramarital affair, neighbors peeking in windows, private investigators, death threats, snow-machining on sick days, verbal abuse, dry tasering an 11-year old so he could see what it felt like. And Palin’s brother-in-law threatening to have a patron thrown out of the Mug Shot Saloon, one of the busiest establishments in Palin’s hometown of Wasilla—the other famous community girl is porn star April Flowers. Trailer-Trash Soap Opera at its worse—a mix of “Northern Exposure” mixed with “The Anna Nicole Show.” And Palin is in the middle of it all and soon to face a deposition. McCain only met Palin on one occasion before offering her the VP. She is the least experienced national candidate in American history. Palin’s politics are hardly ethical—they’re all about greasing the skids of her primary white constituency in scandal-ridden Alaska. On that score she fits perfectly into the Republican mold—she’s pro-oil and anti-environment. Indeed, she’s suing the Federal Government over listing polar bears as a threatened species, which even the Bush Administration supports. At one point she was in favor of Alaska’s so-called “Bridge to Nowhere,” and then she switched gears and opposed it. Palin portrays herself as a fiscal conservative, Palin accumulated nearly $20 million in long-term debt as mayor of Wasilla. She’s a fraud—from beginning to end. Palin’s favorite food is moose meat. She supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and supports aerial shooting of wild bears and wolves. She’s even more out-of-touch with the American people than McCain. She’s also supported handing over American jobs to Canada to build a major oil pipeline. She knows nothing of our country’s urban crisis, has zero experience in race relations, and she is pro-gun and pro-life. She’s the radical right —a conservative extremist who is all pork and no barrel. But that’s merely on domestic issues. When it comes to foreign policy, she has absolutely zero experience. This at a time of serious international threats around the world—from Al Qaeda to Iraq, from North Korea to Iran, from Afghanistan to Russia and Georgia, from the Taliban to Pakistan. Not one day of experience. Not one notch on her resume. None. Not only is Palin not fit to serve, but by picking Palin as his running mate, neither is John McCain. An Alaskan who knows. Jackie S.
By Sarah is White Trash on 09/03/2008 11:23 pm
Susan Gabriel
Thanks for the link to this editorial, Diana. I agree with it, too.
By Susan Gabriel on 09/03/2008 2:45 pm