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Politics | 04/28/2008 6:46 pm

wOw's Views on the News: Is It Time for Clinton or Obama to Throw In the Towel?

By The Staff at wowOwow.com
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By staying in the race, are the Democratic candidates inadvertently sabotaging their party’s chances of winning the election? This weekend, Howard Dean called on Clinton or Obama to drop out of the race for the candidacy by June. "Either of these candidates, if it’s time for them to go, they’ll know it and they will go," Dean said, according to the Associated Press. But will they? Should they? And if so, should they wait until the Puerto Rico primary or should the move be made now?

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Linda Bauer
Pauline, I also watched Wright’s speech. My reaction was so different from commentator comments that I wondered if I witnessed the same event. When I saw Wright on Bill Moyer, I felt he had been misrepresented in the sound bit snippets. He sounded reasonable, intelligent. He had been attacked. He felt he had been represented unfairly and he seemed to be trying to set the record straight. I was a bit surprised at his Obama is a politician comment. I thought the interview diffused and show that the sound bites were not fully representative of the man or his viewpoints. While I was entertained by his speech to the NAACP, it did have a bite. I agreed with his primary point that different is not defective. He has probably made many speeches to the NAACP over the years. He may even have been invited before the news clips saw the light of day. By the time he was interviewed by the Press Club, I believe that his appearances are not helping Barack Obama. Maybe Wright supports Hillary Clinton. I can’t see wither Obama or Clinton ending their campaign until after the Carolina and Illinois primary. I really hope one of them wins decisively.
By Linda Bauer on 04/29/2008 7:53 am
Jozie Lee
Linda, my reaction to the Wright/Moyers interview was very positive. Wright’s reputation was being dragged thru the mud and he had a right to set the record straight, especially because he was receiving death threats. It was about time we heard his speech and his side of the controversy. By the time he appeared at the Press Club we saw the real man. Good or bad, if you agree with him or disagree, at least we have a better idea who is Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Concerning the candidates: For me this was a crucial difference between the Democratic candidates. Who do I trust to protect me in times of trouble? Hillary Clinton. During what must have been the darkest days of her life, she stood by Bill, not because it was easier. As president, wouldn’t she do the same for America? Loyalty. Maybe it’s a female trait, or characteristics of being a Leo astrological sign. For me, loyalty is a key component of true leadership.
By Jozie Lee on 04/29/2008 10:42 am
doll lady
Illinois primary???????????????????????????????????????????? I certainly hope not…….I am an election judge in Illinois and I already sat through one of these dang primary elections just a couple of months ago. >>>>>giggle<<<<<< I do believe you mean Indiana.
By doll lady on 04/29/2008 1:17 pm
Linda Bauer
Yes, I do mean Indiana. I apologize to both Illinois and Indiana. February 5 seems so long ago, I have already forgotten.
By Linda Bauer on 04/29/2008 6:45 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Doll Lady, maybe she is thinking of Mayor Daley the first — “Vote early, and vote often.” (Especially the dead people.)
By Mugsy Peabody on 04/29/2008 9:07 pm
E .
When I see comments start out as this one from Michael Salling does: “Darling Mugsy, the question is whether clitton or osama should throw in the towel …” It makes me feel as if I’d rather not be associated with a thread. How much more overtly misogynistic could a play on a woman’s name be? “clitton”. How much more ridiculously bigoted could a play on Barack Obama’s name be? “osama”. It is embarrassing and disappointing that there are adults that actually believe that it is acceptable to “speak” or worse yet present an argument in such a manner and that others respond without protesting the lowly effort which would imply acceptance and approval.
By E . on 04/29/2008 8:10 am
Star Lawrence
Yeah—I saw that clever nickname that dude came up with. They’ll love it on Huffington. Pretty tacky.
By Star Lawrence on 04/29/2008 10:13 am
Deni G
Elizabeth, Better to state you opinion, as you did so well, and take the thread back. I agree, totally obnoxious post! the points you made, plus using female terms, to insult a man, spewing swift-boat talking points about Kerry. We have had to listen to this kind of talk for years now. It sinks us deeper and deeper into a slime pit. If people can’t debate the candidates on the issues, then I assume they actually have nothing to say.
By Deni G on 04/29/2008 2:20 pm
Marilyn Miller
I agree with Pauline and Corinne!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Marilyn Miller on 04/29/2008 8:17 am
Lorraine Bates
I really feel superdelegates are unconstitutional. How can a government of the people, by the people and for the people allow 500 some-odd insiders decide an election? Pledged delegates represent the will of the people. Superdelegates are the REAL elitists.
By Lorraine Bates on 04/29/2008 8:22 am
Candace Wood
No, let everyone have their say at the primaries. This will help bring people in to the election process and may increase voter participation in November. I have mixed feelings with regards to the superdelegates. While in the purest sense the votes should decide the nomination, there is the electoral college to consider. The states the candidates can carry will decide the general election. Perhaps with a virtual tie superdelegates can determine who is more likely to win the general election. The election, this year, is too important to let our emotions overcome reality. As, we saw in the discussion on health care this election could really make a difference in people’s lives.
By Candace Wood on 04/29/2008 8:30 am
Lorraine Bates
Virtual tie”?? Only someone behind by 500,000 votes and over 100 pledged delegates would call that a “virtual tie”. The electoral college members are bound by their state’s laws as to how they vote, and all 50 states have decreed that the electors are, for lack of a better term, pledged delegates. They pledge for a particular candidate, and we vote for the delegates we want because of the candidate they support. There are no “superdelegates” in the electoral college.
By Lorraine Bates on 04/29/2008 10:18 am
Mose
The entire nation is having a conversation over the Democratic primaries. We as a society have awakened over this. We are having discussions on topics that people have been afraid to talk about. We are focused on the issues - societal, governmental, political, global. America is being re-energized. I think it’s great. We as a nation will emerge better for this and the Democratic Party will suffer only if Dean forces the superdelegates to take a position.
By Mose on 04/29/2008 8:46 am
Susan Cuthbertson
I think both should remain in the contest until the convention. I remember the times when the convention was NOT a rubber stamp for the first few states. Every other state has become a moot point in the recent history and I am insulted that my vote has not counted for anything. This is the first year in decades where the election actually means something. Granted it began a lot earlier than I would have wished, the super delegates are a cruel joke on the voters and Florida and Michigan have been disinfranchized because they wanted a share of the spotlight that usually only shines on Iowa and New Hampshire. Thank goodness there is a rest of the country where everyone’s vote is courted this year. Wyoming, where I live, hasn’t counted in a Presidential election since they put JFK over the top in the convention—if I remember right. I say let it play out to fruition, at least we aren’t being bombarded by the same religious right conservative platitudes as in the recent past and there is real discussion of all the issues—the economy, health care costs, education, and what was the other thing … oh, yes, the stupid war.
By Susan Cuthbertson on 04/29/2008 9:24 am
Lorraine Bates
Florida and Michigan have their Republican-controlled congresses and governors to blame for changing primary dates after agreeing to abide by the Democratic party dates. I hope they remember that at state election time.
By Lorraine Bates on 04/29/2008 10:22 am