02/22/2010 12:00 am

POV

Candice Bergen Questions Washington's Culture

Candice Bergen
Bipartisanship seems alive and well in the Senate but — as Bayh’s resignation proves — is nonexistent in Congress. I have no idea why this is the Washington culture or what can be done about it. I’m waiting to hear from Liz, who knows all.

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MugsyPeabody
It’s simple enough.  Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.  People in power are uninterested in solving the problems of the people they represent; they are interested in maintaining their own level of power.  I think when history looks back on the once-noble experiment that was the United States, they will think, "These people had the best opportunity to create a great society of any people who ever existed, and they managed to blow it the worst."
By MugsyPeabody on 02/22/2010 12:12 am
phyllisDoylePepe

Dear Mugsy: what a pleasure and what a surprise to see you here. Just wanted to say, however, that the quote from Lord Acton, who by the way was saying that about the Catholic church, is, "Power TENDS to corrupt…" if that caveat wasn’t in there then any power would be corruptible and of course that isn’t so.

I was puzzled by Candice’s comment. The Senate is the other branch of Congress and if bipartisanship is alive and well in that body, I’ll eat my hat.  

By phyllisDoylePepe on 02/22/2010 9:17 am
SarahBurris
Some of it really is political posturing.  There really is bipartisanship in all of those back rooms that people say should be in public.  There are agreements and there are genuine attempts to do what is right for the public.  Then I feel like the leadership gets to everyone and is like "No, you have to vote against this, we must be a unit" and you end up with deals made that people don’t vote for.  So this is where I start feeling like - if there are these deals cut and the whip count is showing that its party against party I say screw it, we go back to the more progressive bill and all the deals cut are invalid unless it means they’re voting for the bill.
By SarahBurris on 02/22/2010 9:16 am
DianneLopp
Evan Bayh is a Senator—-and the Senate is part of Congress!  The term "Congress" encompasses both the House of Representatives (i.e., congressmen) and the Senate.  Ms. Bergen, I admire you as a wonderful actress and photographer and a lovely woman who is accomplished and intelligent BUT please do not propagate wrong info—-research your "facts" if necessary before commenting!
By DianneLopp on 02/22/2010 10:07 am
NormaGrooms
I don’t see bipartisanship in either the congress or the senate.
By NormaGrooms on 02/22/2010 11:34 am
SpecialKay

…and now, to add to the bi-partisanship, corporations can stuff the war chests of their chosen candidates with cash and… "influence."

Is that conservative-leaning Supreme Court makin’ ya’ feel all warm ‘n fuzzy yet?

By SpecialKay on 02/22/2010 2:13 pm
LauraVanWormer

Oh come on, DianneL—you know what she meant.  (As Americans we encourage each other to express our views and values in connection with politics, not try to shut each other up!)

Anyway, what I think is most interesting right now is the lack of bipartisanship within both parties—and the theory that Bayh resigned because he will be running as VP under the Democratic presidential challenger for 2012, Hillary Clinton. 

And now that we know that Chucky Schumer was a spy for Rahm Emanuel within the Hillary campaign, that Pelosi and Reid were connected to Florida and Michigan holding their primaries early, and disqualifing their votes (to knock out those Clinton strongholds), and that, unlike President Clinton, who got rid of Emanuel in 1998, President Obama is determined to keep him as WH as Chief of Staff, there is a great deal the DNC has to answer for to Hillary supporters.

As for the GOP, good grief, almost all of the crazy GOP big-shot spenders and no-bid contractors are still seated, so there is THAT well-deserved split in that party.

Who could foresee that Hillary Clinton would emerge as the anti-Machine candidate in the DNC?  And that a female ex-governor of Alaska would emerge as the anti-Machine voice within the GOP?

Imagine, Quad-partisanship in Washington DC, and only the non-existent party, the Independents, can sort it out on behalf of the country.

WowOWow indeed.

By LauraVanWormer on 02/22/2010 2:35 pm
phyllisDoylePepe
…. President Clinton, who got rid of Emanuel in 1998.….He did? Not that I know of. Emanual left of his own accord, has remained close to the Clintons, but had loyalty problems when Obama decided to run and wanted Rahm on board who had been in Hillary’s corner. 
By phyllisDoylePepe on 02/22/2010 6:45 pm
DianneLopp
I am sorry but you are mistaken assuming that I understood her point. Bergen’s sentence was factually untrue—-and her misstatement affected the meaning of her sentence.  Evan Bayh is retiring from the Senate precisely because of gridlock and the inability to get anything accomplished there.  Bergen stated the exact opposite—-so what’s her point?  That everything’s hunky dory in the Senate—-but "the Congress" is dysfunctional?  Her example does not support her premise and the fact that she is this uniformed is embarrassing for her and me, her reader.
By DianneLopp on 02/22/2010 8:51 pm
DianneLopp
I meant "uninformed", not "uniformed".
By DianneLopp on 02/22/2010 8:54 pm
MugsyPeabody
They don’t give a damn about anything except keeping their jobs.
By MugsyPeabody on 02/22/2010 4:26 pm
rockingcat99
Candice,I believe in response  to what is the cruelest month ,it would NOT BE springtime! Ask a polar bear and her cub lying in a cave if ice and snow—- with no central heat ! Not exactly the coziest place on earth. And not much of a chance of a quick meal from the snowy tundra.    Somebody ought to go rescue them from that cruel place.
By rockingcat99 on 02/24/2010 2:11 pm