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Question of the Day | 07/29/2008 12:00 am

Fashion police: Are there things you think should never be worn to the office? If so, what exactly?

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Cynthia McFadden

Cynthia McFadden | 07/29/2008 12:00 am

Cynthia McFadden: Too Much Isn't a Good Thing

Yes. Anything too short, too low or too tight.
Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 07/29/2008 12:00 am

Liz Smith on Tattoos, Thongs and Business Attire

Well, I am plenty turned off by wife-beater undershirts worn as everyday affairs. I don’t like looking at people’s tattoos. Or thongs. Or super cleavage. I think people should be moderately covered up when doing business; I’m no fanatic, but I don’t like the way young girls appear half naked on the streets of New York and I don’t personally like working in an atmosphere of too much skin.

That said, I live where I work and I’ve been known to dart out of my bedroom in my underwear or PJs and sit down and write my column when half-attired. Since wonderful people work with me, I intend to correct this impulsive defect in the future. More dress decorum, please!

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Joan Juliet Buck

Joan Juliet Buck | 07/29/2008 12:00 am

Joan Juliet Buck's Top 15 Things to Not Wear at Work

nose rings
flip-flops
sarongs
speedos
wet suits
goggles
mittens
skis
skates
spurs
quivers
tattoos
life jackets
straitjackets
handcuffs
Mary Wells

Mary Wells | 07/29/2008 12:00 am

Mary Wells: Dress to Impress

Undershirts. Exposed belly buttons. Dirty, musty clothes of any kind. Short-short skirts. Flip-flops. Face rings of any kind. Décolletage. Not because they may stir the male power but because they can upset the clients who pay the bills.
Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 07/29/2008 12:00 am

Joan Ganz Cooney: Don't Go From the Beach to the Office

Tank tops, short skirts, flip-flops, a sloppy look.
Read more about: Career, Fashion

88 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Kay Sara
I am probably alone in this one, but I think open toed shoes are unprofessional. It is hard for me to take seriously a woman as a professional when she is showing her toes painted hot pink, red or whatever. I don’t want to see a businessman’s toes at work either. So no double standard here.
By Kay Sara on 07/29/2008 4:48 am
Tick Pyne
A little bit of perfume, especially in warm weather, goes a long, long way, and should be applied judiciously.
By Tick Pyne on 07/29/2008 7:07 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
NEVER wear your heart on your sleeve––terribly bad form but DO wear a smile which brightens any day, gray or otherwise.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 07/29/2008 7:22 am
Lena B
Good Lord do I know the answer to this question! I work with a very diverse workforce. However, I can truthfully say that most of the females under 33 years old have consisently shown that they do not know of how to dress appropriately for work. I just don’t understand why they can’t adhere to a very liberal business casual dress code. This is what I saw on a regular basis before being more direct with them: Tight fitting capris, shorts or trousers, plunging necklines, sheer blouses, spaghetti strap blouses, tight blue jeans (and I mean tight) cut off jeans, jeans with holes in the knees and under the back pockets and jeans with words across the buttocks And the problem in being direct is that their eyes just glaze over when I present these restrictions to the office dress code. I mean really…
By Lena B on 07/29/2008 9:09 am
kermie b
Lena—In my office folks like that are sent home and docked a day’s pay. They learn quickly.
By kermie b on 07/29/2008 2:17 pm
Lena B
Hi Sister Ki! There’s lots of bureaucracy to write someone up and wait for the disposition of discipline. What I prefer to do is to turn into the ice queen and have the employee sign an acknowledgement that they understand the dress code. That way, if she/he continues to dress inappropriately, progressive discipline has already begun to put them on notice that suspension without pay is eminent—it’s usually enough. I hate being the fashion police! It feels so trifling to confront a young lady about wearing jeans with the words, “Apple Bottoms” on her butt. But the senior staff appreciates the way that I handle the young people. They say I’m tactful, kind and direct—they call it “The Nice/Nasty”.
By Lena B on 07/29/2008 7:04 pm
kermie b
Lena, I like the way you handle this more than my office. The Nice/Nasty—that’s good.
By kermie b on 07/30/2008 12:40 am
Donna H
After reading all your letters, I realize how lucky I am. My employer provides the uniforms I have to wear, as well as the hard hats, work gloves, & safety glasses, & I get an allowance for the steel-toed shoes I have to wear ( & once or twice a year, a shoe-store-in-a-semi comes to the plant, which makes things easy. I only have to worry about crew socks, underwear, the clothes I wear to & from work, & remembering to have toiletries & a clean towel on hand. (Yeah, our buildings have locker rooms with showers. I save on my home water bill, too). Oh, & finding work boots that fit; I inherited the wide hooves of my peasant ancestors.
By Donna H on 07/29/2008 9:18 am
HA BIBI
Donna H, Me to. So glad I don’t have to fuss with the old “What am I gonna wear” while looking at a massive walk in closet!. I to wear a uniform, very tailored and professional. all I to have to provide is the Shoes, Beautiful black european heels and Nylon’s… Which if I can avoid the haphazard run (Always carry xtra) can wear them again. Sure makes life so much eaiser. I also think that professionalism should take precidence and when in doubt, don’t. If you have the question….Is it to short, tight, see through or low? Then more than likely, it is not appropriate.
By HA BIBI on 07/29/2008 1:54 pm
Lady Gator
Elaine Al ….I too wore a uniform for many years when I was flying. At least you don’t have to wear stockings with seams!!!! Also, a panty girdle was required. We also bought our own shoes — at that time at Neiman Marcus in Dallas. They were gorgeous and oh so comfortable. We also were ‘allowed’ to wear flats when serving. I remember in flight school when we had to balance ourselves on a rolling board with 3 inch heels. My pet peeve was chewing gum. Nothing looks worse — “like, you know” a cow chewing their cud!! And, so tacky with the uniform. Ah, yes, those were the good “old” days!! Flying back then was considered a luxury and the passengers all dressed in their Sunday best when flying. Today it resembles a ‘cattle call’. Sure was a lot of fun! If they hired “older ladies” I would still love to fly!
By Lady Gator on 07/29/2008 3:33 pm
HA BIBI
Lady Gator, Knew there was a reason I liked ya! Sisters in the sky, Just at different times. Although i’m in my 30th year, I started when it was still very glamorous! did you have the red lips, red tips and weight checks? If you were one ounce off in weight, you were grounded until it came off. To funny and no wonder so many of the gals were hooked on diuretics lol. Luckly I was a skinny kid so didn’t sweat that one. Yep the chewing gum was tacky if seen, they just weren’t hidding it good enough, lol. When I started it wasn’t uncommon for women to come aboard in mink stoles and long gloves carrying their long ciggarette holders and men always in suit/tie and hat. Boy you’re right…. those were the days. I knew from the time I was a little girl, I wanted to fly as I always knew the world was bigger than my own backyard. It has allowed me to travel the world over, a bizillion times for which I have enjoyed the most fantastic/visually enriching life experiences. Dahhhling, if you can read today… you can be a flight attendant, lol :) You’re never to old to fly if it is something you would really like to to. However, it is such a volitile industry at this time, it might be best to wait untill the new cabinet is in office as we most assuredly need vast improvements within our profession.
By HA BIBI on 07/29/2008 4:20 pm
Lady Gator
Elaine…Hope you come back here and pick this up. Yep, I had the red lips, red tips and weight checks! I should have received the award for ALWAYS at least an ounce over! LOL However, with us it was a toss up. They needed the personnel, so I was WARNED — but I flew! I, like you, always wanted to fly. I was raised in a small town in Arkansas and all I wanted to do was get out of there. Strange, I ended up marrying my husband who lived only 60 miles from my hometown!! Go figure. I flew for 20 years and I loved the life. I have been to so many incredible countries — pretty good for a kid from the sticks!!! I agree, today is an entirely different world. I hate to be critical but each time I fly I look at some of the gals and I think “Wow, if they had been in my class way back then — they would have been drummed out of the corp.” Also, when I flew the pilots were older than me. Now, if I were to go back — I’d be older than the pilots!!! They’d probably be calling me “Maw”. May be terrible to say this but now, when I fly, I’m always amazed at the uncontrolable “little monsters” on board. I remember we used to control them by saying “Hey, sweetie, ask your mom if you can go outside and play”. That usually kept them in their seats!! There are a thousand stories I could tell!! LOL I think someone beat me to it. Remember the book “Coffee, Tea or Me?” A classic, and very close to some of the stories out there. It was a wonderful profession —don’t know if I could handle the problems as presented today. Maybe, I’ll just keep my memories of a more “civilized” time of air travel. LOL
By Lady Gator on 08/01/2008 3:08 pm
HA BIBI
Lady G..Ha! I couldn’t agree more with every single word you said. That was funny those weight checks. I remember one year, the company ran the risk of running out of f/a’s as they had gotten so strict with these crazy checks, LOL. I swear I’m gonna write a book some day. I have compiled all those crazy/zany things we did, the passengers did and all the fun experiences on our travels/layovers. I read Coffee,tea or me it was cute but there is another one, I believe the copyright was late 80’s or early 90’s called “Cabin pressure”, It’s a total hoot. You can pick it up at the library. I too am so embarrassed by the way some of the gals look when they check-in for their flights, The uniform that looks like they went to bed in it, Or the greasy looking hair. I’m not big on alot of make up, but i’m also from the old adage that “every barn needs a little paint” some of them wear nothing and look so washed out under those lights. Yep, kids are a double edged sword, you sympathize with the mothers who are trying to quiet a restless little one, but want to kill the mothers and their kids when they are just bratty and the parents do nothing to attempt to control them. LOL But you know us “Graciousness” must prevail. In all honesty, this may be my last year, as I stated in an earlier post, the industry is so volatile and it “ain’t what it used to be”. So after 30 years, I’ve paid my dues and I’ll have lifetime travel benefits…A good thing. I remember sitting out on the back porch with my dad as a 3 yr old and seeing a plane flying overhead and asking my daddy “What’s that”? and my dad saying that’s an airplane and there are people on it and they are probably going to some exotic destination. WoW, I was hooked, I just marveled that people were up in the sky like that and that the world actually extended beyond my backyard. I knew then and there, that’s what I wanted to do and I have been so blessed by this profession! :)
By HA BIBI on 08/01/2008 5:26 pm
Chrome Toe
I have to admit to having made some serious work place dressing faux pas (sp?) over the years. I grew up in a family that was flat out blue collar. either working in construction or in restaraunts. so professional dress was not anything i’d been exposed to in any way. I lived in studio apartments, trailer parks and the boon docks of the boon docks! Anyway… At 26 I got hired full time as a probation officer. That position is technically employed by the superior court. it also requires that you’re in a court room a lot. I was told by my bosses more than once that in the community I represented the superior court. Okay - so now what to wear? I’d been supporting myself mostly in factories in my early twenties. Then as a gaurd in the juvenile detention and a gaurd at a half way house for men coming out of prison. So… no laughing please… I modeled my clothes after a carachter that Nicollette Sheridan played on a tv show called Knots Landing in the 80’s. She is exactly my age I think. And when that show was popular I was in college and she was playing this high powered business woman (also a manipulative sexy wench) and I loved her look. Therefore… as a probation officer I wore super short skirt suits and really high heels. I mean SHORT skirts. Oh ya and lacy teddy like shirts under my suit jacket. But hey… I had a jacket on in court! Lemme tell ya… I NEVER got ruled against lol! Eventually one day a wonderful woman supervisor. in those days the only woman supervisor and she over saw the admin staff… came in and sat down at my desk and told me that I looked really beautiful but she wanted to tell me that my clothes were just not appropriate for the work place. She said it was “taking away from the great job I do” as a probation officer. To this day I love her for that!
By Chrome Toe on 07/29/2008 9:50 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Kelly–what a gracious way to tell you that your outfits were not appropriate. And so––––what did you wear after that?
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 07/29/2008 10:19 am