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Question of the Day | 10/23/2008 12:00 am

Have you ever met a stranger on a plane with whom you've formed a relationship?

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Judith Martin

Judith Martin | 07/01/2008 12:00 am

Judith Martin's Whirlwind Affairs

Not a long-term relationship, but I have met people who were gracious about being awakened to vacate an aisle seat so that I could go to the bathroom, and I had very warm feelings about them at the time.

Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 07/01/2008 12:00 am

Joan Ganz Cooney: A Brush With Death, A Fast Friend

No, not a relationship that survived the trip. The most compelling of the relationships I’ve ever formed on a plane was in the 1960s on a plane ride from Chicago to Cleveland. Sitting next to me was an attractive woman about my own age; we exchanged a few pleasantries and then began reading our books. After a while we encountered bad weather and the plane began bumping up and down and we realized we were more or less aimlessly flying around. She and I began to talk about our lives and she told me she was married and had four young children and a serious, possibly fatal autoimmune disease and that she went to Cleveland once a month for treatment.

A lot of time passed before the pilot announced we were landing at some airport far from our destination and that we would all be let off the plane and called back when the weather cleared. She and I went into the airport and had a Coke and talked some more about her illness, her husband and children. Very soon, we were told to board the plane again, that we could go on to Cleveland. We took off and again, started bouncing all over God’s heaven. She and I held hands and as the time went by — way too much time — we talked softly, whispering our complaints to each other about the silence of the pilots. The other passengers on the full plane were totally silent … you would have thought the plane was empty. My friend and I continued holding hands as I thought to myself how ironic it was that this poor lovely woman was worried about dying of her disease but instead was going to die with me on the plane.

Finally, after a couple of hours, the pilot announced that we had been flying around over various states but that we were going to be able to land in a few minutes in Cleveland. Still the bumping was such that no one spoke or made a sound … until we landed. And then we all burst into applause and cheers and my friend and I laughed and hugged and said good-bye. 

Mary Wells

Mary Wells | 07/01/2008 12:00 am

Mary Wells: Frequent Fliers Make Fast Friends

My husband ran airlines and created hotels around them. When we married he had taken control of Braniff and my agency had the joy of redoing the entire airline. It was one of the best jobs I ever had. But best of all, as Braniff was the air transport for the Dallas Cowboys, my daughters got to know each one of them and they were adorable with my girls. We were always on the same planes. One of my daughter’s friends’ father was the coach, so Katy, my daughter, developed a loyalty to the Cowboys that she has never lost. She takes her children from New Jersey to Dallas for the big games and even her children know all there is to know about each player.

My own cutest experience was on a flight to Ireland from London. The man seated next to me was curious about the books I was reading because I was in the process of furnishing my new home in Dublin. He told me the books were all wrong and I would be disappointed.

He took out a notepad and started with “Kitchen”: and then moved on to each area of the house making notes while talking to me in detail about each place he suggested as THE place for great dishes, a refrigerator, sheets, slipcovers, top quality furniture, dog accessories, wine and wine coolers – and as he gave me advice he also gave me wonderful funny gossipy stories about other houses in Dublin. He was absolutely enchanting and I would have followed him anywhere.  As we were leaving and shaking hands and I was thanking him, he twinkled – yes twinkled – and said, "Tell your decorator you were advised on the plane by Bertie Ahern — and he really knows the best of Ireland." I haven’t seen Bertie since that day. Bertie, wherever you are, hopefully someone will pull this up onto your screen. Thank you. You were 100 percent right.    

Cynthia McFadden

Cynthia McFadden | 07/01/2008 12:00 am

Cynthia McFadden's Modern Affair

A few years ago flying home from Miami to New York, I squeezed into the window seat in the first row — and buried myself in work. Just as we were landing, I looked over to see my neighbor in 1B was a very good-looking man.

He struck up a conversation as we landed and we exchanged business cards. A few e-mails later we met for dinner and then dated on and off for four months. It was odd and fun. We came from totally different circles and knew no one in common, rather like what an extended shipboard romance must have been like in another age.

Marlo Thomas

Marlo Thomas | 07/01/2008 12:00 am

Marlo Thomas's Lesson Learned

No, I usually keep my head down or turned to the window in terror that the person next to me will talk to me for the next five hours. One time I was doing just that when there was a horrible bump followed by really terrible turbulence. I was so frightened ( I’m a white-knuckle flier in any case) that I grabbed the hand of the man next to me and didn’t let go of my grip on him till the plane was almost on the ground. As we pulled to the gate he asked me to dinner. I said, “I’m married!” and he said, “I thought you might fool around.” Ever since then when I’m scared I grab the corner of the seat.

Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 07/01/2008 12:00 am

Liz Smith: Scared Silent

No, terrified as I am in the air, I am always reviewing the safety card or buried in a book hoping to forget where I am. No feeling for socializing.                              

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Peggy Noonan

Peggy Noonan | 07/01/2008 12:00 am

Peggy Noonan Sees a Cultural Shift

No, but I’ve noticed a changing style in passenger-ship the past few decades. When I first flew, in the ’70s, getting on a plane was still new and exciting. People sat next to each other and thought they were supposed to strike up a conversation — "Hi, I’m Joe Smith from Daytona." The novelty and excitement of the experience made people open. I remember a flight with my aunt and uncle to San Juan once in the early ’70s — people were allowed to move around in the cabin in those days, and smoke, and they visited each other down the aisles and talked loud to be heard over the engines, and laughed loud. I remember on that flight everyone was in Bermuda shorts or capri pants, and it was so festive; they were starting their vacations right there. Now, of course, everyone is used to flying, it’s not exciting and there are more rules, and stewards have to keep their eye on everyone, grimly, lest anyone pull a bomb out of their shoe. And people don’t talk to each other as they once did. The person next to you will make eye contact, briefly, and then say nothing until the food comes. It feels rude to eat side by side with someone and say nothing, so they’ll say, "Well, this looks adequate," and smile briefly. I think people see their plane seats now as a safe alone place to think about what happened at the meeting or what’s coming up at the sales pitch. It’s so quiet. All you hear is the engines, and the dry tap tap of plastic on plastic as people type on their computers. I miss the old joy. But I’m grateful for the alone place too.

Let me add something about the stewardesses of America circa 1950 to 1980. They were fabulous. They were capable and quick and sturdy but they also felt, and were taught, that part of their job was to be nice — to be sweet to kids and to calm the nervous and to be gentle with the old person and to keep the drunk guy in line in the nicest possible way. It was like they were all southern. People used to make fun of them: "Coffee, tea or me," "Poor flying geishas unaware of their oppression by the patriarchy." But they were wonderful, capable, beautiful, and our culture is lesser for their absence. What a great movie scene it could be if you could transfer iconic figures of the ’50s into a moment in time today. The stewardess of 1962 could go down the airplane aisle being sunny and beautiful, and dumbstruck passengers in 2008, us, the famous flying cattle, would stare in awe, and then stand and applaud. Then a modern steward could come in and tell them to sit down or the flight will be diverted and they’ll be reported to TSA.

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carol wilson
Years ago when I was much, much thinner and prettier I had a couple of experiences that were embarrasing and humiliating. After chit-chatting (innocently I thought) with men I was invited to either join the guy at his hotel, get off the plane in an early stop, and one jerk even offered me money to be his companion during his business trip. Now that I am older and far fatter that situation has never re-occurred, thank goodness. More recently, I have been trapped by a fellow Grandmotherly type who praddled about her Grandchildren, dog, etc. When I travel I really prefer to be left completely alone to think great thoughts between episodes of being terrified that a small bump or noise will lead to a deadly air crash.
By carol wilson on 10/23/2008 8:48 am
DeBúrca obj
I do my best to keep out of conversations with people sitting next to me when I’m flying. In fact, I so rarely talk with people on planes, that I can remember the 3 conversations I’ve had with people who I’ve sat next to on flights, one a man on a flight to Montreal, one a different man on a flight from Toronto and one a woman on a flight to Ireland (when we were stuck on the runway for TWO hours waiting for the delayed flight to take off!) . All three of these conversations were very enjoyable and all three people were very nice… so perhaps I should let myself engage more often. No…. I think I’ll enjoy the 3 good experience and not push my luck!
By DeBúrca obj on 10/23/2008 12:48 pm
Susan B
Ah, YEAH …. My husband!!! We met on a Christmas Eve red-eye flight from SF to Pittsburg. I was going to Vermont to visit my girlfriend’s family, he was headed to Lancaster, PA to be with his family. We were seated next to each other. He was working in SF at the time, I was living down the peninsula in Santa Clara. We exchanged business cards in Pittsburg before making our connections. The rest is history, now almost 25 years long.
By Susan B on 10/23/2008 1:36 pm
Lady Gator
Well, many moons ago. I was a Flight Attendant for Braniff Airlines. One day, as the passengers were boarding I noticed a very handsome man dressed in his Navy Dress Uniform. He smiled at me and it was ‘magic’. During the duration of the flight I would notice him looking at me as I came through the cabin. When the flight landed he hung back and when he left he stopped, smiled and asked for my phone number. I was really quite snippy and said “I don’t date passengers”. So he smiled and left. I went on to my next flight and thought — wow, he was so good looking! I didn’t know but he stopped one of the other Flight Attendants and asked them for my phone number. One of them obliged. So, two weeks later he called to invite me to a football game at the Naval Academy. So, after thinking about it, and, after being nagged by my roommates I accepted. To this day I have no idea who Navy played that day!!! All I remember was it was a terrific weekend and he was so good looking. Well, to make a story short, that was 47 years ago. I am married to that ‘magic’ man. And, I still think he’s the best looking, yummy, man I have ever seen. And I still love those ‘laughing’ eyes. So there is a chance to meet the man of your dreams in the ‘friendly skies’.
By Lady Gator on 10/23/2008 1:59 pm
betty hanswirth
i met someone who i would have liked to form a relationship with. i was about 20 or 21 years old. i was in the travel agency business. i was travelling first class and i felt very sophisticated. i was reading “gone with the wind” and i when i looked up the person sitting next to me was paul newman. for about five minutes i just sat there saying “oh my god. oh my god. oh my god.” finally mr. newman asked the stewardess to “please bring this young lady a drink.” after that i was fine and he was totally delightful. he made the trip from california to new york pass very quickly. and - yes - i would have loved to have a relationship with him.
By betty hanswirth on 10/23/2008 7:51 pm
Maizie James
I traveled frequently during the 80’s and 90’s, usually between Phoenix and the metropolitan DC area (BWI, Reagan National, and Dulles). My seating was divided evenly between first class and coach. Curiously, I do not recall having a ‘friendly’ conversation with anyone in first class. However, I feel fortunate that I met many wonderful individuals while traveling in coach. To be honest, I’m not an ‘extrovert’, and I rarely initiated a conversation while traveling. Yet, I’ve sat next to many people who have ‘opened’ up to me, and shared many remarkable life stories. My experience has been that men (in coach) are usually more friendly than women. I’m not sure why. And, in fact, it was a male business owner who I met on a ‘Red Eye’ flight from Phoenix to Dulles who became a three year email ‘friend’. He had wit, intelligence, and a bit of charming mischief about him, which made him attractive. I confess, I did not overtly avoid his ‘subtle’ advances; probably because I felt a little flattered. He was also quite handsome!! Nonetheless, I knew he was married, and I knew he had no scruples about ‘fooling around’. I suppose I was somewhat of a ‘tease’, yet I never accepted his invitations for dinner or lunch - not because I was ‘noble’, but because I was a coward. Ha! Truth be told, I liked the fact that I had an ‘option’ to be ‘bad’, but also I had sense enough to know not to sneak around ‘cheating’ to satisfy my vain desire to ‘get even’ with my ex. (ALTHOUGH …. Occasionally, I wonder what would have happened if I had agreed to meet this ‘hunk of a man’ on a weekend trip in upstate New York. Um.)
By Maizie James on 10/23/2008 8:45 pm
central coast cabin home
I hate to fly but by chance I do again (and I will) I hope to sit next to Sam Elliot and he is recently divorced from that beautiful what’s her name (“Love Story”) wife and he whispers, in that voice that melts, into my ear the entire trip!
By central coast cabin home on 10/23/2008 8:53 pm
Chrome Toe
the last time this was posted I hadn’t met anyone I’d had a relationship “off the plane” with. but ironically… about a month ago I met two women who may well end up being great friends with… We just had breakfast together last week and it last three hours! It was kind of funny. one of the women is a flight attendant. she was in the window seat flying home. I was in the aisle seat. myself and the woman in the middle seat struck up a conversation and found out we had a ton in common. we were laughing and joking and getting fairly passionate about politics. The window seat woman asked if she could get by us to use the restroom and at almost the same time myself and the middle seat woman said “are you a republican? cuz we don’t let republicans out”… LOL. she said no and we talked (loudly and unfortunatley for other passengers i’m sure) non stop the rest of the trip. We’ve e mailed every couple days since, had breakfast last week and will likely have dinner in another couple weeks.
By Chrome Toe on 10/23/2008 11:42 pm
Victoria J
Yes, thanks for reminding me. It was on a flight back from New York to San Francisco. He was a major photographer on his way to Carmel, CA for a gallery opening of some of his photographs. I drove up to Carmel on the weekend and we had lunch, dinner and breakfast. A lovely interlude never to be repeated. And, we were both single, as in… not married.
By Victoria J on 10/25/2008 5:10 pm
Rho
Yes, I met a man on the shuttle from DC to NY. It was a stormy night, he was frightened and I was comforting him. Turns out he owned a big clothing store in MD — we went out for a while, however — he was married. I did not know that, so I stopped our relationship.
By Rho on 10/26/2008 6:17 pm