Question of the Day | 02/04/2009 11:00 pm
If someone gave you $40,000 to buy an automobile, would you buy one made in America?

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I would buy American to support our auto industry and because I have had great luck in the past with American cars… but only if I could buy a hybrid.
Did you hear about that hybrid vehicle that exploded the other day? Too bad - critically injured the victim. The truth is, there are more American-made vehicles right now with 30 mpg+ fuel efficiency than any other country. There are going to be some amazing plug-ins out in the next couple of years. Ford is working on one for 2011, I believe, that will be all-electric and get a ton of mileage. The thinking was that hybrids pose a technical complication, in that you have two different engines.
Hey Jim how you been? Tell me something —why don’t we have cars that are so efficient that we’d get 50 to 70 MPG? Or is it just collusion of automakers with big oil that keeps that from happening? Not paranoid just interested.
I have a friend that was an marketing executive in Detroit for decades. He witness it many times, and maintains that if Houston had not gotten involved, we wouldn’t even have a combustion engine by now.
That’s a good question, Franko. The automakers merely make vehicles that people have wanted: the gas-guzzling SUV’s have been in demand up until this past year, so that’s what they manufactured.
But you’re right about one conspiracy. Big Oil has had the ability for many, many years to put in place the alternative-fuel pumps, but because the oil companies were making money hand over fist, they didn’t bother. Look how hesitant they’ve been to even install the ethanol/E5 pumps on a wide-spread basis. There’s been big lobby money in keeping the smog-producing gas combustion engine going. But now that the country’s trying to “go green”, the oil execs are scrambling to get the infrastructure in place.
Like most things, money is the “engine” or catalyst for action. Have you noticed how you don’t hear the Conservatives snickering nearly as much at all the environmental/alt. energy/greenhouse gas talk lately? That’s because, lo and behold, they’ve discovered - cha-ching! - that there’s money to be made in going green. Big money and a lot of jobs.
What’s exciting in Michigan is that this state has the resources to be as much the leader in the alternative-energy sector as it has been in automotive. For example, the large wind turbines can be transported on the Great Lakes that surround this state - not so easy in most other states. The technical skills, auto manufacturing plants, skilled labor and universities are all in place. And now, a major battery-research center is being established at the University of Michigan, and GM’s committed to building a plant for electric-battery fuel-cell assembly north of Detroit.
You’ve heard about the 120mpg hybrid that China’s building? Ford’s got an all-electric car that’s coming out in two years that will get more than 70mpg.
They’re getting way over 30mpg in Europe already, why not here? I’ll keep driving my Saturn until they come up with a good electric car!
Never! I grew up in the Detroit area and know what the auto workers do to vehicles “on the line” when their jobs are threatened, and when they first come back from being “On Strike.” Almost important, know the day your vehicle was made, and came “off the line.” Never accept one if that day was a Monday or a Friday. Customizing options only bring greater headaches - they’re not welcomed by the auto workers, such ‘drag’ on their output. Even more important, never by a new car, period!
Ignore the song and dance about “buying other people’s troubles,” that only “nurtures” needs for prestige and over-abundance, not common sense. The only nightmares I’ve had in 40+ years of buying vehicles (far fewer since going with Toyota) were with new cars. I must admit, however, that I once bought a “dealer’s car” with very low mileage from the top Toyota saleswoman in the nation, and it turned out to be a once-demolished rental car, rebuilt - Lexus LE, no less. Another dealer traced it for me upon noticing the “paint job” on a new vehicle (???!). It was covered 100% under warranty, by not my investment. Never even “like” a car sales person and never go sit in their “cubicle” (you may as well undress in public). Just walk out. Buy only $50.00-$100.00 above factory cost (not MSRP), and read Consumer’s Reports before even looking at a car, and order the factory cost on the vehicle you select from CU.
Like finding a doctor (if we just worked that hard at it), a bad one can kill you.
I realize this site to intended to gather information on our “age group” as women, but the flurry of inane topic, questions, and “posts” this past week are far too much to spend time on (read them as a list) without Wowowow paying us, too. When everyone else is being paid, we are your food source, so let’s either stop it, or come clean and perform ethically. The intellect among us is to be respected, not abused.
I owned one Toyota and I loved it… every spring, summer and fall… until it wouldn’t start the first day of below 32 degrees and would sit until spring… then start right up. Spent a fortune at Toyota trying to find the problem, never did.
My two best cars were a Chevy Cavalier ( drove it to over 120,000 miles)… by then the body was shot though, but the engine never quit and other than the things you’d expect, didn’t take an overabundance of repairs. I am driving a 1999 Saturn wagon now, approaching 100,000 miles and like the Chevy, the repairs along the way have been those that would be expected with that many miles, no more, and UNLIKE the Chevy, the body looks like new.
My husband drives a Ford Taurus and says it’s the best car he’s ever had… and he’s from Ireland and I don’t think he ever drove an American made care before coming here.
So anyway, that has been my experience, so I can’t say the foreign cars are better…. at least in the moderately priced range. Of course when you’re talking about Mercedes and Lexus that’s different, but those will never be cars I would buy. (Partly because of what I can afford to pay and partly because I am not that into cars and would never spend an exorbitant amount of money on a car even if I was a wealthy person.)
You know DeBúrca obj, - we do think somewhat alike.
This question brings up a true story. A while ago I bought my seventh Honda.
At the dealership, there were two other friends of the owner of the dealership sitting around the desk as the owner and I were settling my plan to buy the new car.
The owner proudly told the others, “This is his seventh Honda”.
One of them said, “So you love Hondas. You wouldn’t switch?
“No way“, I said.
“Yeah, but if you suddenly came into a load of money, or won a lottery, then what would you buy…another Honda?
Without flinching, I replied, “No, - then I would buy two Hondas”.
I still love American built cars but they have a long way to go before they will bring me back from the complete dependability of the Honda product.
Ditto, Lauriate Roly. Love my Honda! Quiet. Smooth. Dependable to the nth. Wonderful car. I learned to drive in an American car and the only thing I liked about it was it had lots of leg room. But thereafter only VWs, first Bugs and then a Rabbit Diesel, the latter of which gave me 60 m/gal when new and 38 m/gal when it was 21 years old! Now I have a used Honda Civic and I just couldn’t be happier. Doesn’t give me mileage as good as my old VW diesel, but close enough (30+) — and a whole lot cleaner!
Problem is you can never get a deal on a Honda, or any other foreign car. Because they have the reputation of being good on trade in.
My sonrand his wife brought two small Hondas new a few years back. They kept them until a few years ago and then decided they preferred American because they are bigger. They love the American jeeps they traded their Hondas in for, even though gas milage is
not as good as the small Honda, but both more comfortable cars. I didn’t like riding in the Honda, and the trade in was no better than on any American car.
America, invented the automobile, so my win of $40,000, woulld buy a new American car for my husband to drive. I do like the way some of the foreign styles look, like a Jaquar, the others are just okay, the Japanese mimic the Americans, and put out false propaganda, that’s
how Americans fell for their cars some years ago. They are not any better, and today many of the foreign cars are built here in America using non-union employees, and cheaper labor.
Problem is you can never get a deal on a Honda, or any other foreign car. Because they have the reputation of being good on trade in.
My sonrand his wife brought two small Hondas new a few years back. They kept them until a few years ago and then decided they preferred American because they are bigger. They love the American jeeps they traded their Hondas in for, even though gas milage is
not as good as the small Honda, but both more comfortable cars. I didn’t like riding in the Honda, and the trade in was no better than on any American car.
America, invented the automobile, so my win of $40,000, woulld buy a new American car for my husband to drive. I do like the way some of the foreign styles look, like a Jaquar, the others are just okay, the Japanese mimic the Americans, and put out false propaganda, that’s
how Americans fell for their cars some years ago. They are not any better, and today many of the foreign cars are built here in America using non-union employees, and cheaper labor.

C jay - I am confused. Your last paragraph has sent off warning bells. Are you saying we women at WOW are a demographic? And that information is being used by WOW ……..how? Thanks.

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