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I am afraid finally I have to spell it out what I had in mind for some time……. The British used the TACTIC called “DIVIDEANDCONQUER” for over two hundred years. Now the American adapted it for foreign policy. That is why there is Taiwan and Tibet issues. Before that there were North and South Korea, and North and South Vietnam……. But China today is so strong now, at least stronger than T-Square in 1989, that the old- fashioned TACTIC like this sometimes worked and sometimes did not work. Perhaps people are getting more knowledgeable and the internet might play an important role in this. Look at all the protests all over the world about the medias from the West abused the truth in Tibet. I personally heard of quite a few of those “HUMANRIGHTS” complaints as a result of the abuse of the news medias….. ” The folks in Tibet don’t look like the Chinese folks……” Well, You have not met me yet. If you have, You would probably think I looked more like Dalai Lama than an Indian from India would! …..” So, why should Tibet belong to China.” …. The American Indians do not look like the Europeans,( they looked more like me, a Chinese from Mogolia- so I was told by the history books). Why should the American Indians belong to the United states?….dancewu(dot)net
George, I think the state of Texas serves your analogy better than California. Texas is the only state we took by force… from Mexico…and we’re still fighting over just how many Mexicans can cross that border.
Ms—- It is interesting to study human nature. My neigbor from Hartsdale days secretly took some of my property away from me until I raised hell! I only owned 88’ x 100’—- a small lot! And then he diverted the stream to flood my house…. Just give you an example!—- dancewu(dot)net
China today is a most unfortunate place. They’ve made so many mistakes and are starting to pay. There appears to be no environmental protection plan. The economy is superficially flourishing, poverty is prevalent. There is a generation of solitary princes in search of nonexistent wives. Despite the amazing, impressive culture the country doesn’t seem inviting. They haven’t really made much progress into democracy. The treatment of the Tibetans is cruel. What they are doing hosting the Olympic games is puzzling. I feel very sorry for all the Chinese exiles all over the world.
M S - once again I would have to agree with you as well. I think that is why it is a complicated issue. A real mixed bag of an economy pushing forward and pulling backwards. In an earlier comment I said that I agreed with Whoopi, “same old country, new Olympics” what I mean by that is that the Chinese are culturally who they are, and that hasn’t changed that much. Attitudes etc, move with the times, just like attitudes in this country change, but their cultural identity goes a long way back.
America today is a most unfortunate place. They’ve made so many mistakes and are starting to pay. There appears to be no environmental protection plan. The economy is superficially flourishing, poverty is prevalent. There is a generation of solitary, lost people in search of partners on the internet, talking endlessly on cell phones. Despite the amazing, impressive political structure of the Constitution, the country doesn’t seem inviting. They haven’t really made much progress into democracy. The treatment of the Iraqis and people at Guantanamo Bay and in other prisons across the country is cruel. What they are doing supporting China hosting the Olympic games is puzzling. Because of universal xenophobia, I feel very sorry for all the immigrant people all over the world.
Thank you, Mugsy Peabody. I never learned to write in English as much as now in my life because my mother tongue is Chinese. Coming to this site and reading all the fantastic writings, I really enjoyed myself enormously! often I found myself laughing at the computer like crazy because of writings like yours are so humorous and are so thoughtful. Thank you again!—- dancewu(dot)net—- P.S. I like your name Peabody very much because my doctor’s name is also Peabody from Detroit. He saved my life!
Mugsy—- the dropping of the Atomic Bombs to end the WWII and ended the Japanese Invasion, as the Japanese soldiers were only one day’s trip away from my family in 1945( my father was with the U.S. army in Guiyang), that was the first time my life was saved….dancewu(dot)net
George, I am pleased that your family was saved, but I must say that I believe the use of atomic weapons on Japan cost my country a very large piece of its soul. We are proud that we won the war, but we have not accepted the truth of the horrible civilian carnage we caused, in part, I think, because our minds cannot hold so much devastation. Until we face what we did in Nakasaki and Hiroshima, I believe, we will never heal that hole in our national soul.
Mugsy—- I never had a religion in my life, and never liked hunting as a sport, and I stopped eating red meats over two years now( believed or not, it was the movie” misfit” that triggered me ). That was why I was attracted to Dalai Lama before, I thought his religion is close to my all time belief, —-NOTTOKILL. My high school friend, a Christian, asked me once before, ” How can you believe in a human being as GOD?” Until now, Dalai Lama disappointed me very much.—- the leader behind the riot in Tibet. The man who proclaimed non-violence approved and planned to bring back the slavery system to Tibet, and wanted to separated from China to be independent, and becomes to be a RELIGIOUS-POLITICALDICTATOR of Tibet again!—-dancewu(dot)net
MS, I love my homeland. Its traditions and its principles of governence. But many would say that America today is a most unfortunate place. We’ve made some mistakes and we’re going to pay. There appears to be no environmental protection plan. The economy is flourishing for the superficial, poverty is growing. There is a generation of raging princes in search of women they can bully into nonextistence. Despite our amazing, impressive culture, the country doesn’t seem inviting. We haven’t made much progress into democacy. Our treatment of the imppoverished of New Orleans was cruel. Why we’re still lifting the torch of Hera at the Olympic Games is puzzling to me.
How do we create the Global Interest that will motivate compliance by all nations, and leave no one feeling exiled or displaced or fogotten.
Who will lead us?
I say, we start lifting up, in our thinking and our discourse, some people we could imagine as our Global Leaders…Al Gore leaps to mind. Desmond Tutu wouldn’t be a bad idea. They’re emerging now. We just need to keep our eyes open.
I think that the Chinese Government is as it as always been, lots of Communists and lots of corruption. The people of China are kissing their lucky stars that they have it so fine. They are making good money and no heavy hand on them. Unlike the old days, both Empiror and Mao. They have cars, their children go to college for nothing, and for the first time spending money. The Chinese are great savers, but they never had it so good.
Lin Si, well welcome again. I must compliment you on how quickly your English usuage and the relating punctuation got so much better from your first discourse! Fast learners you Chinese.
As to the History of China. I have studied the History of China for about 14 years. Beginning about 1500 years before the Shang Dynasty and of course the Decree of Heaven, of which China still adheares to philosophically, at least. I have also studied the social orgins of distress and disease in modern China.
I did this because in my care was a blessed 6 yr. old boy from China in my care as to his acculturation to the Western World. I wanted to be sure he also had a base for his roots.
Please do not underestimate the scholarship of U.S.A.ans by what you read or see in the movies or on our television or silly chat rooms on the net.
I ask you Lin Sin if you have read: Red Azalea by Anchee Min; Bitter Winds by Harry Wu and Carolyn Wakeman; Life and Death in Shanghi by Niem Cheng; The Forbidden Stitch by Geok-lin; Wild Swans by ____Chang. My point, new debater, is: Have you read the many many books written by Chinese (mostly brave women) on the Mao Regime?
You see, in this country with all our bad government we still have the freedom of search through the Freedom of Information Act to search and study the mistakes our government has made. Do you?
As to California. California was taken from the Spanish 200 years ago before an everyday newspaper or a radio station and cerainly no TV and internet. U.S.A.ans today would not allow our government to do such an awful thing again. This is why you see our citizens saying to leave Iraq from the ‘way we are doing business’ and it was the same with Viet Nam.
We are saying we do not like the ‘imperialistic’ manner in which the war is being conducted and the harm to the common people and the destruction of their social and economic foundation.
Now Tibet. Tibet is as old as China, having been some of the greatest warriors on the Planet. The Emperors of Tibet and China used to exchange daughters even for marriage. China bruttally ravaged Tibet in the 1950s and the evidence of this in the broader world is extensive. Why I wonder, when China is so large, is it necessary for her to insist without any dialogue or compromise to have as her very own possession Tibet and Tiawan? Hum? This is not 200 years ago. The Chinese can use the net and get information one way or another and put up the same arguments for people’s freedom as we U.S.A.ans have.
In the 80’s I had hoped for China that they would take the best of the West and the Best of China and build. But this isn’t what has happened, has it? It’s money and decadance from the blood and sweat of your deep countryside people. The upstart lucky Chinese (and to the Chinese money is always luck) have their head stuck in the sand as to those who were not in the right place at the right time to reap the benefits of unprincipaled capitalism. Same as here but even worse. It is beginning to appear that your government might be even worse than our Western governments.
The point Lin Si, as a world citizen, isn’t it your responsibility as it is ours, —to search for the truth? Over a billion people and a dias of old men in an auditorium?
Your symbol of Yin-Yang balance is Black and White. Possibly your ability at Statesmanship needs to understand is not Black and White. They are only the beginning and end zones, with a lot of gray in between. As to global communications might the Chinese be a bit tight? And to the West it appears as posturing and immature, not that appearances are always correct. Just exchanging questions and wonderments.
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