Question of the Day | 10/22/2008 12:00 am
Paul Krugman won the Nobel Prize for Economics. Have you always been a fan of Krugman? Who else is deserving of such an honor?

Nobel Peace Prize Medal
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Mr Krugman is such a sane commentator on the economy and I’ve read him for years now—he certainly deserves the Nobel. But also I think that Philip Roth and John Updike deserves it but the Nobel literary committee is so eurocentric and insular in its outlook that it refuses to acknowledge Mr Roth Or Mr Updike or any American author.. Whether you realize it or not not one American poet has one the Nobel in the last 100 yrs: not Frost, not Ezra Pound, not Elizabeth Bishop, not Marianne Moore—not one, and I find that outrageous whereas obscure Swedish and European poets have won the Nobel. If fact I’ll go so far as to say the the Noble has become a second rate prize in literature and the Nobel committee corrupt in is insularity, outlook and outright dismissal of American Literature. It’s utterly disgraceful.
Why? It goes back to the late 18th century when and Englishman by name Sydney Smith stated: Whoever reads an American book? And that attitude still remains in intellectual and pseudo-intellectual European circles today with it’s disdain for things American. I think that they do not or will not recognize America’s literary strength in our naturalistic style. And Syd’s old cry is still so prevalent among the European Cognoscenti that they refuse thru arrogance to recognize that the poetry we have produced is marvellous and in may cases much better than their own. TS Eliot had to move to England, and live there for 30 yrs, in essence becoming English, to get his Nobel. It’s a pity and now with the Iraq war and the Bushies destruction of what standing we have had in the world that no American is likely any time in the near or far future to receive the Nobel in Literature.
But what is really curious is the Europeans of great literary stature have also not received the “call” from the Swedish academy: Simone de Beauvoir , Graham Greene, Jorge Luis Borges, Marcel Proust, Vladimir Nabokov, James Joyce . Thus I really think it gets down in the end to the Swedish literary committee of course and their rigid, ideological and extreme insularity in the choices of who gets the “prize”.
Hmmmmm–––––makes one wonder. One of my closest friend’s husband won the Nobel Prize for scientific discovery––RNA––years ago and she describes her experience during the ceremony in Oslo in very humorous terms. She is very outspoken and having been seated at a table between two very stogy gentlemen regaled them with tales of American foibles tinged, of course, with pride. They nodded politely, never really laughed, just a chuckle or two. It wasn’t until the dinner was almost over that she realized her two seating companions couldn’t speak a word of English except for the preliminaries like hello, nice to meet you, and goodbye.
well, lit, as the music biz, visual art, has always been highly political, and Mark Twains’s dead. i was warned, in ‘64, by Oscar Williams, that lit was a deal of ‘who you know…’—-so true—-but there is a ‘culture-gap’ amongst the Swedes and we, and even their Euro neighbors—-why? i woulds say, ask Max Von, or Bergman—-the idea of Eliot winning anything stumps me—-vs. ‘Fern Hill’— and true, i feel we have more Great poets than all of Europe—-including ‘The Bard’—-E.E. Cummings, etc.—we really have a superior knack for poetry—-and how could they ignore Joyce—-the true father of all modern prose? i may only guess his revolutionary style simply ‘flew-over-their-heads’? as for Updike? there i don’t blame them—-one more Harvard ‘Big-Mac’—-Ann Rice may write him away—-if you may see her craft as allegory—-and it’s her ‘craft’ that stuns—-she somehow fuses Twain and Joyce—-no east thing. a Nobel for a vampire-book?
to me The Nobel remains the ream of physics/life-science—-not lit—-i do see your point on their either ignorance of American lit—-perhaps it’s a ‘language’ glitch—-‘culture-gap’? or simple politics.
And how may they ignore Dr. Sheldrake’s ‘The Presence of the Past’? easily the most important 20th century ‘life/science’ work? because of his comments on ‘crop-circles’? totally taken out of context—-it is a ‘must-read’—-reviving Lamarck, now thanks to both Dr. Steele’s ‘Lamarck’s Signature’ and of all things, the absolute proof—-From SWEDISH records of ‘acquired-characteristics’, (they alone have kept centuries of records), as shown in the PBS Docu “Ghost in Your Genes’—-for them to ignore him, the only man ‘The Great Randy’, master BS defeater, ever apologized to? no excuse—-you are correct—-‘there’s something rotten, close to Denmark’—-welcome to Earth—-
I think Mr. Krugman won the prize in economics this year, not the peace prize. Interesting idea about Clinton and Bush, though I personally think the prize should be used more to highlight the work of less prominent people.
This is correct; Krugman won the Economics Prize. There is no reason this information could not have been fact-checked prior to posting. Tsk tsk!
Hey guys, the Nobel Peace Prize was given out to Martti Ahtisaari, former president of Finland, for his work resolving international conflicts. Didn’t Klugman win a prize in Economics - his field?????
Thanks for everyone who corrected the original query, as I didn’t think Krugman won the Nobel Peace Prize, but then again, maybe he would qualify! I am still thrilled that Al Gore got the Nobel Peace Prize last year. I still have that email he sent to all his fans, “I am deeply honored.”
The Peace Prize was well given to Ahtisaari this year, though it seemed to offend the Russians.
As for Krugman, I am not familiar with the mathematical model that garnered him the Prize, but I am a big fan of his NYTimes column and his punditry on the weekly political shows. The list of past recipients of the Peace Prize is a little daunting: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/ I would have to give it some thought to think of a suitable nominee for next time. There is so much need for peace, we just must recognize it, salute it, celebrate it.
Glad we cleared that up. Krugman, a most erudite economist, although I’m sure would be promoting peace in his own way, won the prize in economics. I’m thinking that a peace prize could go to Doctors Without Borders––either as a collective body or to whomever started the whole magnanimous endeavor. Peace is promoted by going down many different avenues.
so true—-and ‘economics’? near munbo-jumbo after ‘Das Kapital’—-‘The Invisible Hand’, it remains unseen—-my ex’s leftie pop, while a full math prof, minor in economics and i had had an unforgettable ‘argument-of-reason’ when the USA Dropped backing our ‘paper’ with silver—-i predicted ‘rapid-inflation’, as paper is only paper—-he never got it. yet very soon we entered same—-blamed it on oil, nice scapegoat. ever set-in on a bunch of grads, each pursuing personal agendas? it may ‘get-hot’, as here, anywhere, and ‘civility-be-damned’, but things usually settle down, long before it comes to ‘fisticuffs’—-
i strongly agree that ‘Drs./w/o Borders’ as among the best of human nature—-but where do you really find it? Cuba—-they offer free medical training, on the condition that certed grads serve freely in 3rd world nations for a designated time—-do we have such here?
i am a socialist, not commie—-you must reward individual initiative, but for Christ’s sake, how much loot does anyone need? billions$$$?
absurd—-dis-honorable—-criminal, lest we become Libertarians—-‘yeah, that’s the ticket’—all go armed, sleep w/daughters, any children—-
hardly a humanist view—-
did anyone see the Moyers PBS special, here last night, on the Constitution—-or grasp it’s points? did anyone get the lunacy of a dinky-population state, as Idaho having 2 congressional house-votes, vs. Cal, w/ 10 times the population? or the strong theme that ‘things must change’, and radically, to restore any semblance of BS ‘democracy’. and that The Constitution Provides for such change?
i came to you ladies, assuming ‘non-Rush/Bush’ idiocy—-now, as Chuck Berry, ‘meanwhile i’m still thinking.’
Zecharia Sitchen, he went to Iraq and gave all the Troops a Hitory Lesson and handed out “Flash Cards” so they could learn about the Great History they were living .DO PROPHECIES FORETELL IRAQ’S FUTURE?
The continuing carnage in Iraq is reflected in many readers’ letter to me. The “Land Between the Rivers” is where civilization began, where Abraham began his actual and spiritual journey, where the story of Man and his gods began. The questions I am asked are not only about the antiquities that are destroyed, not only about the past, but also about the future: Is there anything in the biblical prophecies that foretells where it is all leading?
FATE Magazine published a short article of mine on the subject in its October 2005 issue, here are excerpts:
Z.S.
I really haven’t been keeping up with Wow because I wanted to get away from politics and all the in-fighting, but when I read the title of this post, I had to wonder what’s up with WoW??? There is quite a difference between Peace and Economics!!
I just started reading Krugman. I really feel he is a sincere writer. And I totally agree with Frank that American authors or deliberately overlooked for the Literature prize.
As for the Peace prize, not one person comes to mind as of this posting. I am hoping that somehow it can be Obama if he becomes president.

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