Question of the Day | 02/22/2009 11:00 pm
Should NYTimes.com change their model and charge for their online content? Tell us why

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For years, the beginning of my morning is sitting with the New York Times, turning the pages, reading the sections one by one, and not only learning but truly enjoying the sheer quality of the writing. I think all who have grown up with newspapers arriving at their homes feel the same way.
But that is us . . . and ahead of us we already see the future — already so different than the world that we have known before the advent of instant news, transmitted as it happens on our TVs. There is a rush to our lives that we have not seen before. The more leisurely times seem gone and we can catch the news on the streets on our latest gadgets that become more sophisticated by the day.
It seems like sacrilege to question, BUT we are seeing newspapers and magazines thinning in the last months, and many failing. Doesn’t it seem that the handwriting is on the wall? I have a feeling that the upcoming generations are not going to pay for a newspaper online. They aren’t as discriminating - for the most part - as we have been. The bare bones will do - and they will do their own investigation if they want details.
Do I like the thought. I hate it. But technology has changed our world — and continues to as I write. I see so many things that I hold dear disappearing. For newspapers - and before too long - the die is cast.
Good morning, Joan,
I never got into the habit of reading the newspaper, but I know what you mean about things disappearing in the wake of technology. My computer does provide me with access to any number of convenient sources of information, but will there ever be a substitute for the library?
I don’t see how anybody can conduct any sort of responsible research, especially historical research, without hitting the stacks.
And then there’s the whole dynamic of human interaction that’s been reduced to two people tapping at isolated keyboards. I worry that it will breed a generation of automotons…if it hasn’t already.
Hello Ms. Dee - And here we are communicating between keyboards, as you said. But yet, we are hardly automatons as they don’t have hearts and minds of their own — and I have discovered, haven’t you, that it turns out it is then next best thing to "being there". (And you know I only say anything until after considerable thought).
As to libraries, you are talking to one who sees them from the inside every day - and often has to project to their future in my work. The library as have known it from a young age is no longer where it is at. The "reference librarian" is now called the "adult services" librarian and, more often than not, provides direction to the most relevant site on the computers that are now spread throughout the library.
People may not be aware but the book sections of libraries are being weeded, downsized, and normally the rule is to have books that have been circulated in the last five years. There is no need to get excited, as there is something called "the last copy" and it will remain somewhere in your library system, available to you through your library when needed.
Why is this being done? We are responsible to the taxpayers and must be up-to-date with their needs - so different than the good ole days. Computers are in demand. You would be surprised how many do not have them, lining up in the morning to be the first in to use them. They take space, but they also must be in a space where those using them can be monitored. . which means that library stacks have to be reduced … not a lot, as 280,000 books is still a lot of books for a suburban library. Research libraries still stand firm for those who are deeply into a subject.
But as with newspapers, the printed word on paper is sadly going to be - not wholly replaced - but taken over by the technology that the young have grown up with. I guess it is called "progress". And yes, we - who like the feel of holding the book or newspaper will still be able to to a lesser extent - will mourn. We DO mourn. But the world goes forward … and the broad technological advances that expand with each passing day become "the norm". It’s called PROGRESS. And sometimes it is hard to swallow. This surely is.
I think they should keep it free on line, but post it 3 days later.
If they want the current news, they have to purchase the paper.
If they do start charging for on line news, they need to make sure to follow-up on stories, and correct misinformation.
One thing though… if they charge for info, that wil be coppied and pasted on other sites….. so it would still be able to be found for free.
Isn’t the question better phrased as: why pay for newspapers on the Kindle (and Sony Reader, etc.) when it can be viewed for free online? There is a gap in technologies that is not being addressed.
Roger from Ohio has a point. There are strong-willed people on the internet who believe information (and movies, tv shows) should be the "right of the people", and they are sincere in working toward making everything free of charge. Sooner or later that philosophy will weaken the quality of the information presented. One example is Wikipedia. How many times has Wikipedia been presented as an information source when we know it is written by anyone, anyone at all, and entirely undependable, unreliable.
I don’t know the answer to this question. People respect a news source when they have to pay hard-earned money for it. We may be better off for the fee if it means we pay journalists for their work online, and reward all those years of schooling.
" One example is Wikipedia. How many times has Wikipedia been presented as an information source when we know it is written by anyone, anyone at all, and entirely undependable, unreliable. "
That just is not true. Of their Top 20 essential sites, Time Magazine chose Wikipedia as #1. And one of the top business books of 2007, recommended by The Economist, Business Week, Amazon, Financial Times, etc used Wikipedia as a case study of a successful collaborative ventures and included all the quality control measures that are built-in…surprised me…quite interesting. "Wikinomics.’
We are no longer a vertical culture, but a horizontal one. And as in the Industrial Revolution some institutions will adapt, others will pass away.
Salon has tinkered around with different formats over the last four years. Paid, not paid, now premium paid and open with the preminum subscriptions and adverts supporting the sites. HuffPo is popular, but not yet profitable.
It’s called Blowback. Save Al Franken, Vanity Fair, Buzzflash, Truthout. Alternet, Peace and Justice and a few key bloggers during the run-up to Bush’s phony criminal war; the rightwing propaganda machine branded everyone who dared tell the truth, ‘terrorist loving America haters who needed to have a fist full of Freedom Fries crammed down their throats before they were shipped off to a CIA Black Site.’
The NYT quaked in it’s designer boots. And the Left realized it had no analogue to the Fox/NeoCon propaganda machine.
Little by little MoveOn, HuffPo, et al gathered steam. Lefties learned to love it in Cyberspace. And the NYT and others who failed the US by not doing their job to be a counterweight to the WDC war machine, not screaming about the dangers of deregulated derivatives in 2001, are now dealing with the seachanges they set in motion. Paul Krugman, Frank Rich, were a couple of the few at the NYT who stayed true. Tom Friedman was pandering and wrong and even mocked his wife in his column, when she was right. Friedman was a cheerleader for the bloody phony mess he would soon decry, and then cry some more that we are so gone on the environment with all the time and $$ wasted even the Pentagon predicts catastrophic abrubt climate change. Thanks to all the flatlanders, myopics, cowards and imbeciles that put us in this position.
And now they wonder how they can get us to pay?
A little authenticity, guts and truth in 2002 would have gone a long way.
Payback’s a b*tch. Everything’s online including Le Monde diplomatique, the Toronto Sun, The Economist, der Spiegel. I too, used to love to go out for a cappuccino, croissant and NYT in the AM. The NYT’s betrayed me….haven’t read it since.
Should they charge? Sure if they want to lose their audience disappear. They need to hustle and get ad $$$. New Media boys and girls. Some will make some won’t….maybe even the Grey Lady.

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