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Question of the Day | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

What three women would you nominate as the most powerful in the world and why?

Angelina Jolie, Oprah Winfrey, Melinda Gates, Hillary Clinton, Indra Nooyi

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Lesley Stahl

Lesley Stahl | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

Lesley Stahl Weighs in on Nancy Pelosi and More

Nancy Pelosi, said to be one of the most powerful Speakers of the House, ever. Will have even more power if the Democrats pick up a barrel of new seats.

Laura Bush (and soon either Michelle Obama or Cindy McCain), because First Ladies are ALWAYS more influential than they like to let on.

Tie for three: Oprah and Hillary for their hold on so many women’s hearts and minds. (Oprah: One million votes! Go girl; Hillary: Many more millions!)

Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

Liz Smith: The Importance of Angelina Jolie

1. Oprah Winfrey because she already demonstrates her power all over the world as an advocate for women’s issues, the most prominent black woman of her time, one of the wealthiest and most influential in matters of health, culture and philanthropy. She whomped up one million new voters for Barack Obama. She has spearheaded charities in South Africa. When she talks, people listen. She is universally popular as well, a real crossover between blacks and whites.

2. Condoleezza Rice because she is the U.S. Secretary of State. She is much more powerful and prestigious these days because the Bush administration has superseded the neo-cons like Cheney and company with Condoleezza having more visibility and diplomatic clout than any other female on the globe. The position may be tenuous and could end with the end of the Bush administration. But for the moment and with Russia growling at Europe, she is really quite indispensable.

3. Don’t laugh — Angelina Jolie. As reformed weirdo sex object, she is now a big player in international philanthropy as it regards saving and improving the lives of children. She is living her lessons influencing young people. And she and her husband are giving away money hand over fist. Although she may be a movie star, she is a successful one in a business where there are very few of her ilk anymore. She is becoming a role model for the large worldwide group of indulgers in pop culture and she is deadly serious. She is also one of the most beautiful women in the world and she has an influence that is larger even than she thinks it is. She is oddly, also, humble about her place in the universe. She, of all the stars in movies, doesn’t even have a press agent.

Click here on this text to read my New York Post column.

Mary Wells

Mary Wells | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

Mary Wells's Power Picks

To begin with, there are not three most powerful women in the world as there are not three most powerful men in the world. You can choose your favorite three most powerful women from among the group which has probably never been calculated. Also, I think there is a big difference between being successful, influential, important, iconic — and powerful.

Powerful women are changing people’s lives in ways that people do not control. Many women change people’s ideas but few women change their lives in ways they may not know anything about and certainly can’t stop.

Queen Elizabeth, Hillary in 2008, Oprah, Nancy Pelosi, Patricia Russo, Irene Rosenfeld, Indra Nooyi are very impressive women. I am impressed with all the women suggested so far. And it is fun to read about them. But they do not have true power over many people’s lives. They have power over their businesses and one aspect of politics or another and they may impact our ideas and styles but they are not in positions to change our lives without our even knowing it or having any control. There are a number of women who are powerful in that sense — whether I am impressed by them or not — so I am just pulling three out of a hat.

Condoleezza Rice has power every day — in some ways she is the president of the United States and makes decisions in far-flung places that Mr. Bush does not know about until months later. In that position, with a country as powerful as the United States, she controls our lives.

Ruth Ginsberg, as a liberal thinker on America’s Supreme Court, affects the balance and the direction the country takes and, as a result, the reactions and directions other countries take. That is power in my view. I just have to add one suggested by a friend: the Virgin Mary. Of all symbolic women figures, she is alive and powerful to vast groups of people and to men as well as women. Throughout the world, people believe she can change lives and change the world and they react accordingly. As a force in the world she is very powerful and very real whether we like it or not.

Judith Martin

Judith Martin | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

Judith Martin: Why Mother Nature Is a Powerful Woman

1. Mother Nature. The mighty forces of civilization have not been able to tame her, so now we are trying flattery. That isn’t working, either. We keep declaring that we are on her side, that we only want to protect her, and that we believe that everything natural is good — and then she slaps us with a hurricane, an earthquake, an epidemic, a tornado, a flood or a famine.

2. Aphrodite. There appears to be no end to the number of times she can demonstrate her ability to destroy a powerful man in an instant.

3. Calliope, Clio, Euterpe, Thalia, Melpomene, Terpsichore, Erato, Polymnia and Urania. Whatever else is happening, one or another of the Muses is able to inspire, excite and console us.

Joan Juliet Buck

Joan Juliet Buck | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

Who Joan Juliet Buck Calls 'A Living Martyr'

Aung San Su Kyi because she’s a living martyr under house arrest.
Elizabeth II because she endures.
Oprah Winfrey because where she leads, others follow.
Sheila Nevins

Sheila Nevins | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

Sheila Nevins Favors Rice, Pelosi and Ginsberg

Condoleezza Rice: Unflappable. Representing a disgraced and unpopular incumbent, she stumbles fearlessly into different worlds of suited men. Who knows what music she will play when she throws off her chains.

Nancy Pelosi: Remaining a "lady," has the power and balls to make politics work for the people. She takes rebuffs like a great heavyweight and goes on punching for the betterment of the populace.

Ruth Bader Ginsberg: Is the intellectual liberal thinker on a sharply divided Supreme Court and the only one to stand up to Scalia’s arguments on the conservative side. As such she affects the balance of the Supreme Court and the country. May she live long.

Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

Joan Ganz Cooney: Hill, a Queen and a Comedian

Hillary Clinton because she has shown that nothing is going to stop her from becoming the president of the most powerful nation in the world.

Queen Elizabeth because she can turn anyone into a puddle when she is not amused.

Dame Edna Everage because she could render whole nations helpless with laughter.

Candice Bergen

Candice Bergen | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

Candice Bergen: Over My Head

Thought our Liz had an intriguing take. As always. I, like many, would vote Oprah. No contest. And Condi Rice, who seems to have passed through an earlier sinister phase into someone more benign and yet more powerful. Then I was going to vote Hillary or Nancy but Liz caught my attention with the Angelina idea. So I’ll leave it to split between the three of them. With Michelle Obama hopefully taking a slot. Oh. And Judith Martin’s is simply way over my tiny head. I’m from LA, let’s not forget.
Julia Reed

Julia Reed | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

Julia Reeds Salutes The Female Saviors of New Orleans

The world is a big place and I’m always uncomfortable picking out three of anything, much less powerful women. In my own world, which is currently – geographically, at least – New Orleans, it has been women, not surprisingly, who have led the city’s recovery at the grassroots level. Even here there are far more than three to pick out, but I’ll try. There’s LaToya Cantrell, who almost singlehandedly brought about the rebuilding of her neighborhood, the flooded, mixed-race Broadmoor area – and this was long before the first federal or state dollar started to roll in – thus demonstrating the grit and unflagging energy and determination that influenced dozens of neighborhood leaders like her. There’s Anne Milling, who responded to members of Congress like Denny Hastert, who questioned whether the city should be rebuilt at all, by forming Women of the Storm, to lobby senators and representatives, organizing their trips to New Orleans and ultimately having significant impact in getting a reluctant Congress to appropriate billions to rebuild homes and businesses. There’s Ruthie Frierson, who founded Citizens for One Greater New Orleans, because she realized that if we didn’t carry out reforms at the local and state level, we would have a hard time getting federal relief – or anybody – to take us seriously ever again. Her group has had enormous success, including the reform of our Byzantine system of levee boards, which contributed to the levee failures.

These women operate in the mode of my own mother, Judy Reed, who is arguably the most powerful person – or at least the most powerful force for good – in my hometown of Greenville, MS. There are women like this in every community in our country, thank God. On a far wider stage, no one is more powerful than Melinda Gates.

I would also put Wendy Kopp, founder of Teach for America on any list. She had the power of a great idea to address a serious need in our country. She founded her organization 18 years ago and now there are 3,700 Teach for America teachers around the country, but her impact in terms of encouraging the formation of other groups like hers, and inspiring people to think outside the box when addressing our education ills, has been enormous. It has also helped generations of young people learn to engage in philanthropy, something larger than them.

Aside from being one of my very favorite novelists, Joan Didion, with those brilliant essays in Slouching Towards Bethlehem and The White Album and changed Journalism As We Know It at least as much as Tom Wolfe.

Jane Wagner

Jane Wagner | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

Jane Wagner: 'The Oprah Factor'

I prefer to list the three most influential women, not the three most powerful; although, you could say anyone with extraordinary influence does, ipso facto, have a great deal of power. So, OK, here goes.

1. Oprah Winfrey is so influential in so many ways that I don’t even have to list the ways she has influence because we all know the ways and, most likely, have fallen under her influence. To me, "The Oprah Factor" is not a perforative term; it is a force for good. I hope it won’t sound facetious to say that Oprah has given higher consciousness to millions of middlebrows throughout the world (I am one of those middlebrows, by the way). It does sound facetious but I actually think this is a remarkable accomplishment and valuable to our evolution.

2. Ruth Bader Ginsberg. To think of the Supreme Court without her fills many Americans with a sense of loss — a measurement of her importance and, in my view, an acknowledgement of her brilliant and balanced wisdom.

3. Hillary Clinton. Yes, Hillary, despite the media mugging she has endured. A year ago, I might have said Nancy Pelosi but I feel she is a shadow of her former self; although, she may not be entirely to blame. So many have mentioned Condoleezza Rice, and a case could be made, of course; although, I tend to think of Bush and Rice as codependents and treadmill buddies. Can she be this powerful when joined at the hip to a hopelessly weak and flawed George Bush? 

I also like Liz Smith’s offbeat suggestion of Angelina Jolie. Liz said it all as to why she qualifies and I agree with Mary Wells about Indra Nooyi. And there’s Angela Merkel. Christiane Amanpour: Her mind-opening documentaries are seen throughout the world. J.K. Rowling who has influenced the minds of millions of young people with the Harry Potter books. Melinda French Gates as cofounder of the Gates Foundation, dedicated to bringing innovations in health and learning to the global community. Maybe it seems self-serving as a card-carrying wOwer, but I think we have many important and influential women right in our midst: Sheila Nevins (talk about documentaries); Liz Smith (talk about diversity); Mary Wells; Joni Evans; Lesley Stahl; Peggy Noonan; Marlo Thomas and St. Jude; Joan Ganz Cooney (talk about influencing the minds of millions of kids). Christiane Amanpour

Lily Tomlin

Lily Tomlin | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

If Lily Tomlin Ruled the World

By Presence:

1. Ellen DeGeneres, because she has been a deep, life-changing influence on millions of people — the first openly gay performer with a hugely successful talk show and, now, chosen most popular television personality over No. 2 — Oprah! How deep is the influence when so many so affectionately have accepted Ellen, first, as a human? A talented, funny, lovable one — but a human.

By Commitment:

2. Oprah and Angelina (thanks, Liz) because they’ve used their fame and money to make such a huge difference. They’ve both raised consciousness around the world. They’ve each proven by personal commitment just how much one person can make a difference.

By Fearless Determination and Belief in Self:

3. Hillary, in spite of relentless, hateful attack and ridicule, gleefully counted down again and again, Hillary rallied against all of it to inspire 18 million Americans to vote for her, to believe in her candidacy and to sustain a long-term loyalty that, one day, will likely put her in the White House as the first woman president … I say all this even though I look squint-eyed at all politicians. But some, I believe, are way better than others and how much better depends on us. Condoleezza Rice, not! I can’t go there. I don’t know how anyone in the Bush Administration can be redeemed after actively being a part of misleading our great country and running it into the ground. Speaking above of one person making a difference: It will take millions of people to undo the harm that’s been done by this one president.

Peggy Noonan

Peggy Noonan | 09/22/2008 12:00 am

Peggy Noonan: The Single Word That Changed Human History

I have to echo Mary Wells: the Virgin Mary, also known as the Blessed Mother, is the most influential and powerful woman in the world. A good portion of the 1.2 billion Catholics in the world talk to her regularly, or every day, or more, seeking help and advice. Protestants honor her singular place in history, and the Koran speaks of her with respect as well. She was a young Jewish girl when she changed human history. So you see she covers a lot of territory. She did this by saying one word: "Yes." She performs miracles. She consoles. She has come down to talk to little children; she once, in Fatima, made the sun dance to prove that she was present. She is understood as such a source of mercy that it’s a pious old joke to say that when you die, if St. Peter won’t let you in the gates you can go around the back and talk to Mary and she’ll try to get you in. But she’s very good at thwarting mischief; when old John Paul was shot, he felt certain she’d saved his life by redirecting a bullet away from his artery. She is the main source of strength to many people who happen to make the world work, who keep it running. Without her, nothing would work. She protects nations. You cannot love Mary and at the same time hold to disparaging assumptions as to the place and power of women, so she is a powerful teacher in that area, also. She is very brave but not warrior-like, very powerful but not forward or aggressive. She is, I guarantee you, a silent mainstay and great love of some of the Most Powerful Women named on this list. (Ask the U.S. Speaker of the House how she feels about her.) She is the Queen of Peace. We are lucky she is there.

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By Joni Evans on 09/22/2008 12:00 am
Frannie Em
I would say 1. Condoleezza Rice 2. Oprah Winfrey And oddly enough, I will take Liz’s pick of Angelina Jolie as well. I agree with the assessment. I almost didn’t want to pick Oprah because it is so obvious, but it is the truth. the first that came to mind was Sec State Rice because she just puts her head down and keeps marching forward. The USA is the most powerful nation in the free world, and she represents us on the national scene.
By Frannie Em on 09/22/2008 12:15 am
Frannie Em
Should be “International scene”
By Frannie Em on 09/22/2008 12:17 am
Mugsy Peabody
You had it right the first time, I think, Frannie!
By Mugsy Peabody on 09/22/2008 12:36 am
Step away from the BLOG!
Condoleezza Rice {cough}…extra saffron in mine please..and I’ll have it with the lamb skewers.
By Step away from the BLOG! on 09/22/2008 1:55 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Frannie: Good morning. I wanted to address two things with you. First, I was impressed and warmed by your attempt to bring back the political discussions on the Howard thread. I really thought we could have a Sunday roundup discussion on some of the important issues, but it just got a little crazy. Second, you had mentioned that you didn’t particularly like “The Women” and when I read Anthony Lane’s assessment in the New Yorker I thought of you. Here’s the end of his piece: Taken together, “Sex and the City”, “Mamma Mia!” and “The Women” add up to a spectacular trilogy of the inane, and to point that out is not the prerogative of the misogynist or the killjoy. It’s the view of someone who thinks that women deserve better from the movies, and who sees no joy to kill. Now, on to powerful women. I cannot just pick three, but Rice and Ginsberg would be high on the list. The fact that Oprah is seen all over the world by women is certainly influential if not powerful. Suffice it to say that in this world we have many, many powerful females and as years go by the number is bound to increase.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 09/22/2008 9:29 am
Step away from the BLOG!
Rice is despised by prominent black women in the Stanford community who knew her best for wanting to be a white GOP male, and for being their tool. She should be in The Hague as a war criminal with the entire Bush Administration. Her name is on an oil tanker for good reason. And the former $12M CFO of Genetech, a black woman named by Fortune Mag as one of the 50 most powerful blacks in the US, can’t stand her for good reason. Speaking of inance entertainment. Maybe choices should be a bit more aligned with humanity??
By Step away from the BLOG! on 09/22/2008 12:27 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Rice is certainly controversial, no doubt about that. I am not a fan, but that does not negate the power that she exudes. Yes, if only power would come with wrapped up with a good dose of humanity––would be nice.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 09/22/2008 4:56 pm
Frannie Em
Hi Phyllis Have you seen The Women? I just thought there was too much going on, and she didn’t get what she could have from the talent. I loved every scene Candace was in, but her part wasn’t big enough for me. Anyway, I think I came in after most of the shooting was over on the Howard thread. It just seems like there is too much of that, I will wait until it is over, and stick to tamer threads. Thanks Phyllis
By Frannie Em on 09/22/2008 12:55 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
No, haven’t seen the film. Lane agrees with you re: Candice: “As in ‘Sex and the City,’ Candice Bergen is the only person here who cracks wise to any effect; everybody else flounders in a mire of soggy lines.” And this: “Real women like Barbara Stanwyck, Irene Dunne, and Katherine Hepburn scrapped for their power, against a society that had no wish to give it up, or against hapless, dithery males who had no clue what to do with it, whereas “The Women” of 2008 gives empowerment a bad name.”
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 09/22/2008 4:49 pm
Maizie James
Hello Frannie, Your wrote, “I almost didn’t want to pick Oprah because it is so obvious, but it is the truth.” Immediately, I thought, “OPRAH, rated among the most powerful woman in the world? Please help me!!! I must live on another planet.” Then I read the replies of others on this thread. I was astonished. Wow! The MAJORITY of women on wOw agree!!!! Frankly, I’m absolutely amazed that so many have included OPRAH in their top three list. The truth is, I was never a fan of OPRAH. Admittedly, I’ve watched her show only three times, and I should not judge her on just those three shows. I remember when her show debuted, I thought it was awful compared to the more substantive talk shows, which aired in the Washington, DC metropolitan area in the 80’s. Afterward, I never tuned in again until once in 1998, and again in 2003. Again, I did not like the type of programming. Her show was, in my opinion, only slightly better than the horrible talk show which began in the 80’s. But, again, I’m a poor judged. Why? I RARELY had my television on during the day, except for the CTN/PBS shows (Mr. Rogers, Sesame Street, etc.), and occasionally I watched Phil Donahue (years prior OPRAH). Yet, for the most part, daytime television was nonexistent in my home. I was far too busy, and all my sons were involved in after school sports/activities. I did see OPRAH on David Letterman, and I though she was impressive - yet, not enough to turn on my television prior the CBS/ABC evening news followed by THE NEWS HOUR WITH JIM LEHRER. As for prime time and late night talk shows, I occasionally watched David Susskind, Dick Cavett, David Frost, but mostly I was a PBS ‘junky’. I watched BILL MOYER’S JOURNAL and CHARLIE ROSE when both shows debuted. I guess I’m writing all of this because I feel APOLOGETIC because I’m not among the OPRAH fan club… and apparently, so many women (from all walks of life) adore OPRAH. I almost purchased one of her magazines to learn more about her, however each time I thought to purchase a magazine, the only person on the cover was OPRAH! Um … I thought. It conveyed a message of vanity? Narcissism, hedonism, pretentiousness? It was - and still is a turn off. That said, I would not choose ANY ‘celebrity’ to be on my list - primarily because I’ve never been too interested in celebrity news. Although, I HAVE watched a few of Barbra Walter’s specials. Or, I’ve seen segments on 60 MINUTES, which featured celebrities. (I now yield to the slings and arrows for my anti-OPRAH spew.) Now, back to the question: It is difficult for me to decide which women would be considered among the top three choices on my list because I equate money with power, which doesn’t always mean that a person with extraordinary wealth is also extremely powerful/influential. As such, in my mind, there are powerful/influential women who are not necessarily wealthy. My list would include: Queen Elizabeth II Ruth Bader Ginsberg/Maya Angelou Gloria Steinem/Betty Friedan Also, someone mentioned Dianne Fossey and Jane Goodall for the contributions they have made to the preservation of endangered animal species (gorillas and chimpanzees). I would also include Amelia Earhart on my list … and, countless other women in the areas of science, medicine, and education.
By Maizie James on 09/22/2008 4:43 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Maizie: I don’t watch Oprah either , but have seen a few of her programs through the years. Whether we like her or not she has done a lot for many people and since women all over the world watch her she is certainly influential and since she is very rich she has lots of power––––––––comes with the territory. You have got to admire what she has done with her gifts and what she has done with her life.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 09/22/2008 5:07 pm
Maizie James
Phyllis, I agree with you. I do admire OPRAH for … “what she has done with her gifts and what she has done with her life.” Apparently, OPRAH has overcome great obstacles in her life. And, her success has indeed been extraordinary. And, yes. Wealth DOES allow many to become powerful. There is not doubt about it.
By Maizie James on 09/22/2008 9:10 pm
Frannie Em
Maizie Hi, I appreciate your lack of appreciation of Oprah. I don’t really watch her that much anymore. When I was going through surgery and chemo, she was a pick-me-up in the afternoon. If it was sad shows, and I sad and felt stuck and couldn’t cry because I was sick and my son was in Afghanistan, I would watch to get the tears rolling, and at least feel some kind of release from the pressure in me. I hadn’t really watched her much before that, just off and on at times, here and there. I liked her. Then I just kind of outgrew what she was doing. I grew up in a household 40 years ago that was doing what Oprah does now. Oprah could have learned much from my mother. When she had Dr. Phil on, he was a light weight compared to my mother. Her approach is different, but that is cool. Yeah, PBS is big around here. I like your list of TV and list of powerful women. I see Oprah because after all of these years she has access to get things done and she uses it when necessary. She has schools in Africa, has helped schools all over the US. Helped build homes for Katrina survivors and set up the Angel network that helps thousands. Women all over the world know her and take her advice, maybe it is that she has tremendous influence is the key. I like Maya Angelou as well. What about Mrs. King, or Rosa Parks? They had tremendous influence to change our world.
By Frannie Em on 09/23/2008 12:57 am
Kryssi K
Hah, Judith Martin’s list is so deliciously…different. MOTHER NATURE ALL THE WAY!!! Well recently I have been disappointed by Angelina when she reneged on one or possibly a couple of things she vowed never to do: have her own children so as not to alienate her adopted ones, and get married until gay marriage is recognize in the US (has this engagement rumor been confirmed yet?) Despite that, however, I still can’t help but respect her in the larger sense. She contributes more to humanitarian and awareness causes than any other star of her caliber (that I can think of, except maybe Annie Lennox). I am glad so many of you included her in your lists.
By Kryssi K on 09/22/2008 12:20 am