Question of the Day | 09/22/2008 12:00 am
What three women would you nominate as the most powerful in the world and why?

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I would say
1. Condoleezza Rice
2. Oprah Winfrey
And oddly enough, I will take Liz’s pick of Angelina Jolie as well. I agree with the assessment.
I almost didn’t want to pick Oprah because it is so obvious, but it is the truth.
the first that came to mind was Sec State Rice because she just puts her head down and keeps marching forward. The USA is the most powerful nation in the free world, and she represents us on the national scene.
Condoleezza Rice {cough}…extra saffron in mine please..and I’ll have it with the lamb skewers.
Frannie: Good morning. I wanted to address two things with you. First, I was impressed and warmed by your attempt to bring back the political discussions on the Howard thread. I really thought we could have a Sunday roundup discussion on some of the important issues, but it just got a little crazy. Second, you had mentioned that you didn’t particularly like “The Women” and when I read Anthony Lane’s assessment in the New Yorker I thought of you. Here’s the end of his piece:
Taken together, “Sex and the City”, “Mamma Mia!” and “The Women” add up to a spectacular trilogy of the inane, and to point that out is not the prerogative of the misogynist or the killjoy. It’s the view of someone who thinks that women deserve better from the movies, and who sees no joy to kill.
Now, on to powerful women. I cannot just pick three, but Rice and Ginsberg would be high on the list. The fact that Oprah is seen all over the world by women is certainly influential if not powerful. Suffice it to say that in this world we have many, many powerful females and as years go by the number is bound to increase.
Rice is despised by prominent black women in the Stanford community who knew her best for wanting to be a white GOP male, and for being their tool. She should be in The Hague as a war criminal with the entire Bush Administration. Her name is on an oil tanker for good reason. And the former $12M CFO of Genetech, a black woman named by Fortune Mag as one of the 50 most powerful blacks in the US, can’t stand her for good reason.
Speaking of inance entertainment. Maybe choices should be a bit more aligned with humanity??
Rice is certainly controversial, no doubt about that. I am not a fan, but that does not negate the power that she exudes. Yes, if only power would come with wrapped up with a good dose of humanity––would be nice.
Hi Phyllis
Have you seen The Women? I just thought there was too much going on, and she didn’t get what she could have from the talent. I loved every scene Candace was in, but her part wasn’t big enough for me.
Anyway, I think I came in after most of the shooting was over on the Howard thread. It just seems like there is too much of that, I will wait until it is over, and stick to tamer threads. Thanks Phyllis
No, haven’t seen the film. Lane agrees with you re: Candice: “As in ‘Sex and the City,’ Candice Bergen is the only person here who cracks wise to any effect; everybody else flounders in a mire of soggy lines.” And this: “Real women like Barbara Stanwyck, Irene Dunne, and Katherine Hepburn scrapped for their power, against a society that had no wish to give it up, or against hapless, dithery males who had no clue what to do with it, whereas “The Women” of 2008 gives empowerment a bad name.”
Hello Frannie,
Your wrote, “I almost didn’t want to pick Oprah because it is so obvious, but it is the truth.”
Immediately, I thought, “OPRAH, rated among the most powerful woman in the world? Please help me!!! I must live on another planet.” Then I read the replies of others on this thread. I was astonished. Wow! The MAJORITY of women on wOw agree!!!!
Frankly, I’m absolutely amazed that so many have included OPRAH in their top three list. The truth is, I was never a fan of OPRAH. Admittedly, I’ve watched her show only three times, and I should not judge her on just those three shows. I remember when her show debuted, I thought it was awful compared to the more substantive talk shows, which aired in the Washington, DC metropolitan area in the 80’s. Afterward, I never tuned in again until once in 1998, and again in 2003. Again, I did not like the type of programming. Her show was, in my opinion, only slightly better than the horrible talk show which began in the 80’s. But, again, I’m a poor judged. Why? I RARELY had my television on during the day, except for the CTN/PBS shows (Mr. Rogers, Sesame Street, etc.), and occasionally I watched Phil Donahue (years prior OPRAH). Yet, for the most part, daytime television was nonexistent in my home. I was far too busy, and all my sons were involved in after school sports/activities. I did see OPRAH on David Letterman, and I though she was impressive - yet, not enough to turn on my television prior the CBS/ABC evening news followed by THE NEWS HOUR WITH JIM LEHRER. As for prime time and late night talk shows, I occasionally watched David Susskind, Dick Cavett, David Frost, but mostly I was a PBS ‘junky’. I watched BILL MOYER’S JOURNAL and CHARLIE ROSE when both shows debuted.
I guess I’m writing all of this because I feel APOLOGETIC because I’m not among the OPRAH fan club… and apparently, so many women (from all walks of life) adore OPRAH. I almost purchased one of her magazines to learn more about her, however each time I thought to purchase a magazine, the only person on the cover was OPRAH! Um … I thought. It conveyed a message of vanity? Narcissism, hedonism, pretentiousness? It was - and still is a turn off. That said, I would not choose ANY ‘celebrity’ to be on my list - primarily because I’ve never been too interested in celebrity news. Although, I HAVE watched a few of Barbra Walter’s specials. Or, I’ve seen segments on 60 MINUTES, which featured celebrities. (I now yield to the slings and arrows for my anti-OPRAH spew.)
Now, back to the question:
It is difficult for me to decide which women would be considered among the top three choices on my list because I equate money with power, which doesn’t always mean that a person with extraordinary wealth is also extremely powerful/influential. As such, in my mind, there are powerful/influential women who are not necessarily wealthy.
My list would include:
Queen Elizabeth II
Ruth Bader Ginsberg/Maya Angelou
Gloria Steinem/Betty Friedan
Also, someone mentioned Dianne Fossey and Jane Goodall for the contributions they have made to the preservation of endangered animal species (gorillas and chimpanzees). I would also include Amelia Earhart on my list … and, countless other women in the areas of science, medicine, and education.
Maizie: I don’t watch Oprah either , but have seen a few of her programs through the years. Whether we like her or not she has done a lot for many people and since women all over the world watch her she is certainly influential and since she is very rich she has lots of power––––––––comes with the territory. You have got to admire what she has done with her gifts and what she has done with her life.
Phyllis, I agree with you. I do admire OPRAH for … “what she has done with her gifts and what she has done with her life.” Apparently, OPRAH has overcome great obstacles in her life. And, her success has indeed been extraordinary. And, yes. Wealth DOES allow many to become powerful. There is not doubt about it.
Maizie
Hi, I appreciate your lack of appreciation of Oprah. I don’t really watch her that much anymore. When I was going through surgery and chemo, she was a pick-me-up in the afternoon. If it was sad shows, and I sad and felt stuck and couldn’t cry because I was sick and my son was in Afghanistan, I would watch to get the tears rolling, and at least feel some kind of release from the pressure in me. I hadn’t really watched her much before that, just off and on at times, here and there. I liked her. Then I just kind of outgrew what she was doing. I grew up in a household 40 years ago that was doing what Oprah does now. Oprah could have learned much from my mother. When she had Dr. Phil on, he was a light weight compared to my mother. Her approach is different, but that is cool.
Yeah, PBS is big around here. I like your list of TV and list of powerful women. I see Oprah because after all of these years she has access to get things done and she uses it when necessary. She has schools in Africa, has helped schools all over the US. Helped build homes for Katrina survivors and set up the Angel network that helps thousands. Women all over the world know her and take her advice, maybe it is that she has tremendous influence is the key.
I like Maya Angelou as well. What about Mrs. King, or Rosa Parks? They had tremendous influence to change our world.
Hah, Judith Martin’s list is so deliciously…different. MOTHER NATURE ALL THE WAY!!!
Well recently I have been disappointed by Angelina when she reneged on one or possibly a couple of things she vowed never to do: have her own children so as not to alienate her adopted ones, and get married until gay marriage is recognize in the US (has this engagement rumor been confirmed yet?)
Despite that, however, I still can’t help but respect her in the larger sense. She contributes more to humanitarian and awareness causes than any other star of her caliber (that I can think of, except maybe Annie Lennox). I am glad so many of you included her in your lists.

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