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Question of the Day | 10/01/2008 12:00 am

What was the best take-away your education gave you?

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Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 10/01/2008 12:00 am

Liz Smith Counts Her Blessings

When I entered the University of Texas I had no idea what I wanted to do or be. When I left, after writing for the school magazine and having a column in the Daily Texan, I had learned how to put together an article, how to write a column item and generally how to edit and report. This was an immeasurable tool for getting a job in New York and getting ahead in the world. God bless higher education!

Marlo Thomas

Marlo Thomas | 10/01/2008 12:00 am

Marlo Thomas: 'Send Your Daughters to Girls’ Schools So They’ll Get a Better Education'

I went to Catholic girls’ school for 12 years, so by the time I went to USC for college, it was a huge adjustment. Boys! No school uniforms! I wasn’t used to dressing for school, and it would take me so long to decide what to wear in the morning that I’d miss the first class. Then I’d get to campus and a cute boy would ask me for a coffee at The Grill — so I’d miss the second class. This wasn’t academically helpful. By the end of my first semester I had a 1.4 on a 4-point grading system. My father threatened that if I didn’t “apply” myself (and go to class) I’d have to go to (the all-girls) Marymount College. So I hit the books during the second semester and got a 3.8. I even got a little gold key as the most improved student.

So here’s what I took away: Send your daughters to girls’ schools so they’ll get a better education.

Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 10/01/2008 12:00 am

What Joan Ganz Cooney Walked Away With From All 'Those Boring Professors'

When I was in college, my mother worried that her daughters would be widowed (as her own mother had been when she was two) and have nothing to fall back on. She convinced us that we should major in education so that we could teach if we had to. When I graduated, I had no intention of spending my days with women and children so I became a reporter on my hometown newspaper, The Arizona Republic, and then moved to New York so that I could get a job in the most exciting field imaginable — television. When, years later, I was doing the research that led to the creation of Sesame Street, I needed to talk to very high-powered academics at Harvard and other universities who were experts in child development. Each of them always asked rather haughtily what my credentials were for doing the study I was doing and when I answered that I had majored in early childhood education, they immediately warmed up and became very helpful. So I bless my mother’s wisdom and I bless all those boring professors in the Education Department at the U of A.
Judith Martin

Judith Martin | 10/01/2008 12:00 pm

Judith Martin: Just the Beginning

A determination to educate myself. Before I entered college, I thought the job was done.
Julia Reed

Julia Reed | 10/01/2008 12:30 pm

Why You Should Be Nice to Eccentric Old Ladies, by Julia Reed

The best "take-away" I got from my education was a job. I spent my last two years of high school at Madeira, a girls’ boarding school in McLean, VA, just outside of Washington. Not only did I work harder there than I ever have since, I literally worked, as part of the school’s co-curriculum program, otherwise known as the "Wednesday Jobs Program." Freshmen and sophomores were given social work types of jobs — reading to the blind, bathing the handicapped, whatever. We were all pretty lucky and spoiled, so I thought it was a genius stroke to force these girls to see how the less fortunate coped. During our junior year, everyone worked on Capitol Hill. I worked for Jim Buckley, Bill Buckley’s brother and a senator from New York until he lost, and then I worked for Jack Kemp, who was hilarious.

At one point during that year, a close friend from school asked me to accompany her to get an abortion (she had gotten knocked up by a guy she sang with in church choir who was in college somewhere south of us in Virginia), and I had to tell my supervisor in Jack Kemp’s office why I needed the afternoon off. Looking back, I cannot believe I told the office manager (or whatever she was) in the office of this conservative congressman that I was going with my 16-year-old friend to get an abortion, but I did, and she didn’t flinch. My, how times have changed. This was in 1977 and we went to the Women’s Health Center and then we took the bus back to school. If my mother is reading this now, she is having a small stroke but, as usual, I digress.

In your senior year, you were expected to know what you wanted to do with your life and I knew I wanted to be a journalist, but they weren’t snobby — my roommate said she wanted to be a housewife, so the school found her a job in a florist (now she’s a massage therapist, but she has always had really nice and creatively put together places to live). The school had a long-standing deal with Newsweek, since Kay Graham (the mag’s owner) had gone to school there and her parents had donated most of the gorgeous land overlooking the Potomac that the school sits on. Anyway, they put me to work in the library where my job was to clip newspapers. There were stacks of them everywhere — the Times, the Washington Post and the Washington Star, the Christian Science Monitor, and the Wall Street Journal. There were no computers yet, so there was no Lexis/Nexis and certainly no Google. The prehistoric equivalent was a wall of overstuffed file cabinets full of tiny file folders filled with even tinier folded-up news articles that the librarians and me had clipped and marked and filed: "SALT II/Gromyko"; "Carter/Human Rights." It was a great way to learn about the world, but progress, understandably, was slow, mainly because the staff consisted of me once a week, an assistant librarian and the chief librarian, Norma, a slightly crazy white-haired lady from Texas who had once been a White House reporter with Helen Thomas and that generation.

When Norma developed a rather pesky crush on LBJ, she was banished to the library and I think I was the first person to talk to her, to listen to her stories (which were great), in years. So when the school year was over, she asked me if I had applied to any DC colleges. Thank God my father, against my will, had forced me to apply to Georgetown and at the last minute I had sent in my application from Madeira via taxi. Anyway, I had no intention of going (I had planned to go to Brown), but then Norma convinced the bureau chief to give me a part-time job because she didn’t want to lose the company. I ended up working in that bureau for six more years and the people who were there then are still like family to me. So is the magazine itself, where I am, happily, a contributing editor. It was one of the luckiest, best things that ever happened to me. And I owe it to Madeira, and to what all Southerners know — be nice to the eccentric old ladies. Somehow they always hold the power.

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Brooklyn Gal
When I was in college, we were required to have a Liberal Arts background. We had to read the classics as well as study history, economics and art before embarking on our major. Now students are only required to take courses within their majors. The exposure has made it possible to discuss so many subjects as well as understand so many references that are written in books and plays. Hey Josie, Happy Birthday!!! Go to today’s HerTube and make a wish!
By Brooklyn Gal on 10/01/2008 12:25 am
Kat Pos
Carol, College students are still required to take liberal arts courses outside their majors, rest assured. But the age of specialization and the need for college to provide students with practical job skills means more study time is spent on specialized courses and internships than on gaining a broader understanding and world view. How much of a degree should be weighted in which direction (liberal arts or majors) is one of the central, ongoing debates among college faculty. It’s a slippery slope as college gets so expensive students need to focus on jobs (to pay off all those students loans!) not on getting the best education. Parents today need to compensate by getting their kids reading young, and not just the fun, commercialized tv-generated books. Get them to write a journal, too. The earlier they develop their range in taking in and processing a variety of information the more quickly they see the connections between all areas of study—one of the goals of liberal arts in college. Many of the greatest minds never went to a liberal arts college. They just learned early on to be intensely curious and expansive in their thinking.
By Kat Pos on 10/01/2008 1:39 pm
Brooklyn Gal
I worked with many new teachers who never had to read Chaucer or any of the classic poetry or literature I was required to take in the 70s. There was an article in the NY Times many years back reporting that many colleges and universities wanted a greater enrollment and therefore thought one way to do it was not to make core Liberal Arts courses a requirement. I sincerely hope you are correct and most colleges and universities are rethinking this issue.
By Brooklyn Gal on 10/01/2008 3:40 pm
DeBúrca obj
My oldest son graduated from University of Illinois in 2004 and had to take core Liberal Arts courses. My daughter is in the DePaul University Theater Conservatory BFA program and takes a limited number of core courses, but she is still required to take one per trimester. The other non-Conservatory majors at the University still take all the core classes we had to take.
By DeBúrca obj on 10/01/2008 11:43 pm
C A Rose
The best for me was that I completed something I had started earlier in my life. The next best was entering and finishing graduate school in my 40’s. But the very best was getting published in a professional journal in my field. That was the icing on the cake! CA
By C A Rose on 10/01/2008 12:38 am
Step away from the BLOG!
CA-What was your field, if don’t mind my asking?
By Step away from the BLOG! on 10/01/2008 1:00 am
C A Rose
Master of Counseling, Stress Mangement and Reduction for the Chronic and Seriously Ill. I am NCC Retired-Inactive. CA
By C A Rose on 10/01/2008 7:28 pm
Sandy Woodward
That I don’t know everything and if I did I couldn’t retain it. I was taught how to research and find answers. I still enjoy old fashioned research which require touching the source not clicking the link. Daily I learn new words, look at new scientific breakthroughs, find dream vacations, and cook up recipes I would never have known about if not for the internet. But still crack a few books. Would I have been inquisitive, if not for my early schooling in — look it up — I don’t think so. God bless all Kentucky Educators.
By Sandy Woodward on 10/01/2008 1:30 am
Oh! My Favorite
Hey Sandy. Not that I’d change my answer below, but I wish I’d said that. I’d surely add it on to what I’ve learned because it’s so true. Learning to find answers (as often as you need to) leads to worlds! And, btw, God bless ALL educators, because Kentucky only holds sway on bourbon and race horses :^)
By Oh! My Favorite on 10/01/2008 2:42 am
John G
Me too. Sandy hit it the nail on the head!
By John G on 10/01/2008 9:24 am
Oh! My Favorite
The best thing I took away from school into life was to keep quiet and learn from the person trying to teach me something. Regardless of how he/she may look, sound, smell, talk, dress or act…he/she already possesses the knowledge that I need to learn and get on with my own productive life, and will neither gain nor lose if I choose to forego that knowledge.
By Oh! My Favorite on 10/01/2008 2:28 am
kermie b
Independence and a job to pay my student loans. But, most of all, good friends, people who cared then and still do, so many (too many) decades later. I never wanted to leave. It was a kinder time.
By kermie b on 10/01/2008 2:38 am
James the Game
Now it’s time to leave Queens for you, eh, Kerm? Hope that goes well.
By James the Game on 10/01/2008 3:13 pm
Step away from the BLOG!
My first education was in Interior Architecture/Construction. What I learned: The ability to execute polished renderings is another language/way of thinking/communicating. Loved color theory, architectural history because of it’s symbiosis with all other aspects of a culture or civilization, and knowing the elements of style. Then can go into hundreds of situations with assurance that will know (or will uncover) what is needed to make it work. Loved the people, completed hundreds of projects all over the US, and was involved in many related organizations that enjoyed, AIA, ASID, etc. Biggest take-away: A honed ability to see the macro of a large scale multi-million dollar complex projects and all the micro sequential steps in their order. Confidence that could tackle any difficult project and manage it to successful completion. Could never do that work again due to cognitive problems from head injury that ended career. To manage those large scale projects need to be able to do 30 things at once, work with millions of details and hundreds of people. Used to love that, and would be impossible today. Three years ago returned to UCLA and completed a 3-year writing program (and film studies), in 18 months and with a 4.2 GPA. And my final film project was selected as an example of excellent student work and as a result wrote a master story for an Emmy winning composer of major film scores. Great guy, wonderful experience. Take away: 1) 95% of writing profs are generous, lovely, talented people. 2) Readers bring their life experiences to reading the exact same book. Example: Pulitzer Prize winner Jhumpa Lahiri’s first collection of short stories “Interpreter of Maladies.” I’d read previously and again for a class, and was astonished by how differently people intrepreted. Realized a book/story is a living breathing thing like a glass of wine that is altered by the reader’s depth of understanding. And that this applies to every area of life/culture/being. I’d know that before, but somehow the circumstances really cemented this for me. 3) There is alot of talent in the world that will die unsung for the lack of self-confidence/inability to set a goal and complete it no matter what/pragmatics/clarity. People need to know why they doing something what it will really take, then decide what’s worth the candle. 4) Once again realized if set out to do something, nothing stops me. 5) Had it confirmed that I’d already figured out the inherent, universal hero archetype—this was a biggie. 6) Thinking of two classes in particular, in life there are a finite number of occasions when the exact right people, circumstances, activites come together in a kind of magic that everyone recognizes and also understands that it will last within them forever if they never meet again, and what an irreplaceable gift that is. As if you were wondering in a desert and arrived at a pagent in Alexandria.
By Step away from the BLOG! on 10/01/2008 2:59 am
joan larsen
Ah, yes, there was serendipity - and a kind of magic - that forever molded by life to come that first week of college. A chance meeting on the sidewalk outside my dorm was all it was. But what did I take away? The boy for me, the boy that I married on the day of graduation who has made my life the dream it still is, who has always encouraged my successes along life’s road - and still does - and remains the forever love of my life. I have found that - if you have that solid core and that at-home cheering section (that also works in reverse) - that you have come away with the gift-of-gifts. The love in my eyes still remains. Let’s see. . . On the practical side, the degrees in Business Administration - in a field of that time when I was the only female graduate in what was essentially seeming like a man’s world back then - only lead to more broader-based courses, more life experiences (which is where it is really at!!) - and that curiosity - one that still seems unbelievably strong - to find out what lies beyond the next corner. What else do I treasure that went along with my education? The still warm, loving, life-long friends I made from childhood on — the ones I still call “my best friends” — for we have that history together, and still continue to grow and learn alongside each other even when we might not always live close by. They are my gifts. Do I have regrets? Only that now I see life as being too short to learn all I still want to learn, do all I still would like to do. But then, I am guessing that most of us feel the same. . . and in the end, if we have been lucky, we should count our blessings as we look at where our lives and our education have taken us. Oh - a secret P.S. My first position after college was in an office with Joan Ganz Cooley’s husband, Peter Peterson. Pete was an inspiration to me — working only a stone’s throw away, he was already the vice-president and on a meteoric rise - and yet we were hardly a decade apart in age, and in the same field. He had already “thrown his net wide” with the feeling that the sky was the limit. I was very young (19), impressionable, and watched him closely. “Fame and fortune” were not going to be in my grasp, but he was my first example that success could be if your goals were set high. And Pete is never wrong. . . and proved it.
By joan larsen on 10/01/2008 4:26 am