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Question of the Day | 03/31/2008 4:20 pm

Who was more important to you, your father or your mother?

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Xandra Homes
My parents divorced emotionally when I was five and I went to live with my mother. I saw my father every other weekend and we would talk and laugh and so forth. But my mother was the one I most liked and wanted to be with because she was such a strong woman who raised me practically on her own and trying to advance her self in business. However, my grandmothers also had a hand in raising me so I love them too.
By Xandra Homes on 03/31/2008 10:54 am
ina pinkney
MY FATHER’S LOVE On Labor Day, 1944, at the age of 18 months, I stood up in my crib, but immediately fell down. I tried again and again, with my father looking on in terror. The polio epidemic that ravaged New York City had come to Brooklyn. The March of Dimes put me in braces. The standard treatment was, “We’ll wait and see what damage is done when the fever is over.” After several months my muscles were still in spasm. The brace was changed to a cast. Around the same time all this was happening, my brother Brian was born, and my Grandpa Sam came to live with us after undergoing the first of many cancer surgeries. Times were tough in Brooklyn that Fall. My father had read about Sister Elizabeth Kenny, an Australian nurse who had successfully treated a polio outbreak among the Aboriginal people, and who was visiting New York City to introduce her treatment. He called every hotel in New York to find her, and when he got the right number, he spoke with her secretary. (I heard the story so many times from so many different people, that I know the conversation well.) Dad: “I need Sister to see my daughter.” Secretary: “Of course. Which hospital is she in?” Dad: “She’s not in the hospital any longer. She’s home.” Secretary: “I’m so sorry. Sister cannot see a patient in a private home. The AMA is giving her rather a difficult time, and she cannot leave herself open to more criticism. I’m sorry.” He asked again and was refused. The next day he noticed that I was “flicking” my hair back in a funny way_or at least that’s what he thought I was doing. When he watched me for another day, he realized that it wasn’t about my hair, something was wrong with my neck. And his terror mounted. He called the secretary again. Dad: “Please, she’s getting worse. Something has changed. I’ll do anything to get Sister to see my child!” Secretary: “I understand, Mr. Brody. I’ll arrange it if you’ll pick us up in a car, and then drive us back to Manhattan.” He borrowed a car, drove to Manhattan, and into the car walked a very imposing woman wearing a big hat with a feather. She sat in the front seat. The secretary sat in back. When he parked the car in front of our apartment building, Sister said, “The child’s doctor is in there, yes?” “No”, said my father. “I cannot treat her without a doctor present,” was the response. Daddy ran around the corner, and asked Dr. Suna, our family doctor, to come with him. Only then did Sister leave the car. She cut off the cast, threw it aside and voice booming, said, “This is not a broken leg, THIS IS POLIO!” Then began the first of countless “hot pack” treatments and massages that I endured for years. It was wartime, and my father had to get a St. Mary’s All- Wool blanket from the black market. It was cut into pieces 24 inches long and 8 inches wide. Several were put into a pot of boiling water and my mother, wearing three pairs of rubber gloves, wrung them out and carefully wrapped them around my leg. Dry strips of blanket were then wrapped around the wet ones, and a kind of plastic tablecloth wrapped around all of it. Sister had determined that if a muscle was in spasm and then immobilized, it had no place to go when the spasm had ended. She felt that wet heat and massage would give the best outcome. Those sessions were hard on all of us. Three times a day for over two years, we stopped all activity, cleared off the kitchen table, laid down blankets, applied burning hot wet wool on tender skin (made more tender each day), warmed the cocoa butter and massaged my leg. Then came the clean-up. I had a love/hate relationship with the process. I knew it would help, and my playmates could come in and watch, but it was really the beginning of a sense of my “otherness,” my complete difference from other kids-maybe even adults.
By ina pinkney on 03/31/2008 11:02 am
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
Dear Ina, I read this holding my breath. Your writing is so intense and immediate. What wonderful parents to do anything to try to help you. How did this turn out? I can also imagine how frustrating for you. Just having a shattered foot and the uncertainty of is it going to heal by 5/18 and if not surgery and then even longer, when my entire life most pleasure from marathon walks. All kinds of previously unconsidered complications/impacts to have mobility constrained. Very energy draining. I ask myself is there a way to make it a spiritual strenght?
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 03/31/2008 1:27 pm
ina pinkney
Thank you, Suzanne. I feel for you and the uncertainty you face, as well as the changes in your daily life. I’ve never known ‘pleasure from marathon walks’ but can imagine them! The accommodations I have made, and you will most likely have to make, change the texture of the day but not the deeper meaning of it. Here are 2 quotes I live by:In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. Albert Camus And, “The world breaks everyone, then some become strong at the broken places.” Ernest Hemingway I wish you the very best healing. Ina
By ina pinkney on 03/31/2008 6:53 pm
Upanaway
Ina, Polio Class of 1950. I’ve heard of so many incredibly loving parents who took care of their little polio children, but my eyes still tear, and my heart still swells. You were fortunate, indeed, Sister isn’t known for her kindness, or being correct for that matter, but we didn’t have much to save us. I had wonderful doctors in one of the nation’s top hospitals, then the only iron lung available for miles, but it broke my little girl heart, because in the coma, I still heard my pediatricians say I would die by morning if (…..) didn’t die so I could have his iron lung …when I next awakened, I was in it - until I had polio-releated breathing problems ( not lung/heart related), I had no memories of the iron lung. Now, I hear it clanging, and heaving every time I’m building up CO2. Have you heard of the Blue Whale Project? I know their email is Polio.information@gmail.com, and there’s a lot of information on www.ppsmanager.com. Oh my, wander I did. Parents? Neither. I started looking for new parents when I was 2-1/2. They told people I had died “at 7…” I made it; my younger siblings didn’t. Uri Bronfenbrenner and I were on a panel together, in 1976, and someone asked him if there was just 1 thing that was important to every child, what it would be, and he said, “Every child must have 1 person, only 1, who is insanely in love with them; it can be a crossing guard, a grandparent, a shop-keeper, anyone, but a child must know someone loves them insanely.” I had one.
By Upanaway on 04/01/2008 1:35 am
Elaine Parker
I lost both of my parents years ago - Dad in 1988, and Mom in 1993. I learned so much from each of them, and, ironically, the most valuable lesson - not quitting - I learned from each them in two very different ways. When I was a sophomore in college, I called home one Tuesday night in tears. I was ready to quit, and wanted to come home. My Dad was home, and he listened as I explained why (for my life, I can’t remember now what the problem was). When I finished, he said he would make a deal with me - he wanted me to stick it out until Friday, and if I still wanted to come home on Friday, he would drive up and get me. What happened? Well, I ended up staying and getting both Bachelor and Master degrees. My mother taught me the same lesson in a very different way. She was in poor health for much of her life, and following a heart attack in 1981, the doctors gave her six months to live. She informed the doctors that she wasn’t going to be ready in six months - and continued to prove them wrong for the next twelve years. Things were grim a few times, but she just kept coming back (we used to refer to her as the “Timex Mom” - she takes a licking, and keeps on ticking!) So now, whenever I find myself in a situation that makes me just want to QUIT, I remember the lesson I learned from two truly wonderful people that I was blessed to have as my parents. Pick one over the other? I don’t think I could, and I wouldn’t want to.
By Elaine Parker on 03/31/2008 11:16 am
Chips AHoey
My Dad died last September and it’s been a hard time for me because I was very close to him though I didn’t get to really know him as a child because he worked on the railroad when I was growing up and would be gone a few days at a time. My Mom was very strict so when I got out of college I moved away and only visited since they didn’t like the fact I got married at 23 and they didn’t like who I married - over the years we grew closer but now I have regret that I didn’t make more time to get to know my Dad as an adult because he was such a great guy - I’m close to my Mom and I’m trying to help her through her loneliness so I guess I am not answering the question but it’s a tough one because I can’t choose between my parents - the question just reminded me that I didn’t let my Dad become that important by my own choosing reading some of the responses of people’s awful experiences makes my upbringing in a strict household very small and inconsequential and now having a teenage daughter who thinks I’m too strict and doesn’t want to be around me, this question makes me worry that she won’t think we were important to her either until it’s too late
By Chips AHoey on 03/31/2008 11:33 am
Nikki Longworth
Mom, I suppose. She was fragile and needy and divorced dad when I was 5. As the oldest child of 3, I learned early on about caretaking. So to the extent that her neediness contributed mightily in shaping this recovering co-dependent enabler, mom wins the contest.
By Nikki Longworth on 03/31/2008 11:33 am
Liz Pop
the most influential people in my life have been my children. I see the future in their eyes and am awed by the impact I have on that future. I marvel at the part of me that exists in them and the part of them that is separate from me. They have taught me many things, but most importantly, that time is precious and life is pure joy.
By Liz Pop on 03/31/2008 11:55 am
K B
I am the youngest of five children. My mother is dead but very much alive in our hearts. She had a gift of making all of us feel as if we were her favorite child. I miss my mom very much. She loved us unconditionally. She and I loved to go fishing together. To this day if I have a good fishing day, I think of Mom. When I am sick or having a problem, I miss not being able to call her. She never tried to solve my problems but because she was such a good listener, I always felt better after sharing my problems with her. Whether we we were watching a good KU game or an old John Wayne movie we always liked being together.
By K B on 03/31/2008 11:58 am
Diane Judge
Neither really. My mother was too close to me in age and ultimately we thought of each other as girlfeiends, and my father abandoned us by the time I was 8. but my dear Dutch grandmother who moved in and took care of us while my mother worked really made me who I am, and who I am not. She had strict morals and a great sense of humor and taught me to drink Geneva gin at an early age while I learned to play Gin rummy with her in our cold water flat in Paterson, New Jersey, then the silk center of the world. Grandma had only gone to Grade three in public school, but she seemed to know everything. On Saturday afternoons the Metroplitan opera played on the radio, though none of us had a clue what it was about. But somewhere in my psyche opera became important to me. You could tell what day of the week it was by what room was being cleansed to its wall paperand by what was being served for supper. As poor and deprived as we were my memoiries are rich with humor, drama, good times and love. Bless her. did the theatre I was take to at an early age. today as Tony voter on Broadway I can only salute Nell Vander Linde who held us all together in a difficult age of Depression and then War.
By Diane Judge on 03/31/2008 12:43 pm
Diane Judge
Sorry about the typos, I’ve never done this before. Diane Judge
By Diane Judge on 03/31/2008 12:53 pm
Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye
Diane, You make this sound romantic and like something from a Preston Sturges film. Better to be have been poor with rich sensibilities, than rich and spiritually impoverished. Nell Vander Linde sounds fabulous like my aunt, Simmie. French and the same undauntable type. Didn’t notice any typos…it’s all steam of consciousness..Cyber-Diary…who cares?!!
By Buh-Bye Hillary Hillary Buh-Bye on 03/31/2008 1:41 pm
Diane Judge
Aaah! Suzanne, Thank you. But romance is the Irish in me. My handsome father was so full of blarney and bull, that even though I hated him for what he did to my mother, I couldn’t resist him. He was such a charming cheat. As a child he would take me to burlesque which was still legal in those days, and then make me lie to my Mom that we had gone to the movies. As a result I actually saw Gysy Rose Lee take off her gloves. And Zorina play with her snake. And some pretty thing take a bath on stage. Heaven! In retrospect. Thanks for the thought DJudge
By Diane Judge on 04/01/2008 8:54 am
Lori Glickman
I WAS CLOSER TO MY MOM DEFINATLY A MOMMYS GIRL! I WAS THE YOUNGEST OF 3 HAVING 2 OLDER BROTHERS. MY MOM PASSED AWAY IN 95 AND I KNOW MY DAD MISSED HER TERRIBLY AS SHE PASSED AWAY 2 WEEKS BEFORE THEIR 50TH WEDDING ANNAVERSERY. ANYWAY MY DAD AND I STARTED GETTING ALONG BETTER WHEN SHE PASSED AWAY. I ALWAYS KNEW MY DAD LOVED ME BUT NOT QUITE SURE IF HE LIKED ME. HE TOO PASSED AWAY IN 98. I MISS THEM BOTH QUITE A BIT. TREASURE THEM WHILE THEY ARE ALIVE.
By Lori Glickman on 03/31/2008 1:02 pm