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what i find amazing is the feminine approach of obama[engage, communicate, compromise] and the masculine approach of clinton[intimidate, threaten, nuke] the enemies.
as written in sun tzu, in the art of war:
1] To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting.
2] For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.
3] all men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
4] keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
5] There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.
these approaches are more of obamas philosophy… clinton and macain are all about obliteration and nihilation.
Absolutely. However, we would hope that the next woman who runs for President does not feel the need to show she’s tough to compete with the men which is what we have seen in Sen. Clinton. The Iraq and Iran votes is postering. We also need a woman who maintains her intregity at all costs and one that will not use gender, the media or any other distraction rather take responsibility for their actions. There are millions of women who would make great Presidents, we just need to find one. Our current example did not pan out.
Very much so, I just read the Women PAC Count ad in the New York TImes dated May 20, 2008. I am sure that they meant well, and it is evident they could speak for many women. I would hope that many of you would look at it from another woman’s perspective. I am a feminist woman, but Hillary’s voice is not my voice and I have women friends who feel just like me . There are lots of us, who have supported Hillary Clinton all the way until this Primary Election. Many of us (me included) especially supported her in her run for Senate in New York by voting for her (when she stated repeatedly that “she was not running for President”—that just wasn’t true). This time, we have given our allegiance to Barrack Obama and we have a right to do that.
This is what I think. While Hillary may have a right to stay in the race until every voice is cast…she has a responsibility to get out before the election goes to John McCain and the Republicans. That would be a terrible legacy. I believe the time for her to get out of the race is now. We all have to think of our party and our country, and especially to the common goals of the Democratic Party.
I say this as a 57 year old woman who is a loyal Democrat who has voted for Hillary Clinton in the past.
Please listen to me and pass this message on.
Thank you,
Elaine Brecha
Elaine, I have sincerely “listened” to you, but again you are asking devoted Clinton supporters to abandon the candidate they are confident can win to support Senator Obama whose chances against the presumed Republican candidate, McCain, are less than assured. Unfortunately, whatever the outcome, Senator Clinton will receive “the blame” whether perceived or real unless she actually wins the Presidency. If Obama receives the nomination, but loses to McCain, Clinton detractors will blast for her staying in the campaign too long. If Clinton loses to McCain, then “obviously” Clinton’s superdelegates stole the nomination …Obama should have been the nominee. Then if your souffle flops, again, Clinton. If your souffle draws praise, but your husband hates it..Senator Clinton is your patsy. And if McCain wins, well, field day for Senator Obama. Senator Obama is pretty much the Teflon candidate as far as direct responsibity for the Democratic outcome. And as for the effect on roller derby…..I don’t even want to think about it.
Clinton/Obama in 08. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Peace and grace
I know this sounds strange … my answer to this question would have to be ….”I just don’t know”.
I will admit that I was impressed with Hillary when she was interviewed on Fox. I saw a lady who was relaxed, comfortable in her own skin and I was impressed with her tenacity. But, alas it is too late.
Although I’m not voting for either of these individuals ( HRC or BHO) I do think she represents most women well. In the meantime, I hope she hangs in there all the way to the convention.
I would feel equally safe or unsafe with a man or a woman in the Oval Office. However, speaking as an American woman at the turn of the 21st century, I rarely feel completely safe. Too many imagistic representations of violence and perversity floating around in our heads to ever completely rest secure.
Well, there is no real safety in this world—each of us learns this one way or another. A whole bunch learned it on Sept 11th—en masse. Neither candidate can “keep us safe.” But I do believe appearing to be strong, confident, and organized as a country will have some deterrent effect on idiots who would like to mess with us. Since these are not state-sponsored groups, these meetings with “enemies” espoused by one of the candidates will have a limited effect on safety. Of course, time-honored diplomacy with preliminary lower level contact, preparation, pre-agreements, and back channel approaches will still be of use.
My Alias —I was just asking the same question to some friends of mine. We all thought it would be great! McCain has been known to ‘cross the aisle’ on some issues — and, he has often stated that both parties should work together.
I truly believe that McCain/Clinton would be a great ticket!
It takes a certain kind of ego, male or female, to handle the commander in chief position in any country. I do not think it has anything to do with gender or race. I would feel just as comfortable with a female commander in chief, if the female is someone who can handle it. If Hillary does not get the nomination, I hope she will run as the vice presidential candidate.
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