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Candice Bergen | 08/23/2009 11:00 pm

Candice Bergen and the Concept of War


Candice Bergen
I saw those pieces in the Times and was very impressed by the level of competence and commitment shown by women. Especially when you think of 10, 20 years ago and how it was an insurmountable challenge for them to perform and be successfully integrated with men in the armed forces and in battle. And since our whole concept of war is completely transformed — it seems more and more realistic. There are very few incidents of rape. They should decline. Most of the objections have been removed. Not to mention, with a volunteer army, we are in desperate need of recruits.

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Baby  Snooks

What a shame we have not moved beyond the need for war. Like the line in the song says "War is not the answer…" 

Reading these type of stories always brings back memories of those who didn’t come back from war. 

And now we will have children who not only lose their fathers to war but their mothers as well.  

By Baby Snooks on 08/24/2009 11:46 am
sandra skolnik
Considering war may always be with us - I would hope not, but the competition for resources, territory and idealogies seems to be part of our existence - then women should have the same opportunity as men to gain the benefits of military and combat service (if they manage to stay alive), which includes medical care, education and other benefits of service.  Let’s face it, in our competitive, materialistic and status-oriented society, service in the military provides opportunities to young people from financially disadvantaged families that they would not get elsewhere.  And I would imagine that not that many women who join the military are mothers.  So, as much as I would like to think that someday there may not be a need for war, thousands of years of human history prove otherwise.
By sandra skolnik on 08/24/2009 1:43 pm
Suzanne Frazier
Since women are able to multi-task and are most times compassionate human beings, I am hopeful that the concept of war will change more as more women are able to move "up-the-ranks" into positions of power.  And in the military, you can’t "move up the ranks", unless you have combat experience.  So it’s a necessary move for women who want to influence the military in the future.  They probably realize they can’t change the system, but hopefully, they can work within the system to construct a war that does not include massacre of innocents and non-combatants.
By Suzanne Frazier on 08/24/2009 6:34 pm
albert miller
The whole idea of war is to make a fortune making weapons, while sitting safely in your mansion, and letting those who use the weapons, and fight and die, do their duty to you. We may as well include the women if they are willing. They would never release the true numbers of women raped in the service of our masters.Ever notice there is never a buy one, get one free, sale on armament?
By albert miller on 08/25/2009 12:38 am
Teresa  Kerwick

Well I don’t know, maybe you can ask the Cubans what their deal was with the Russians on armanent for all these years.  I think they got them for free so they didn’t even have to buy one.    I have no idea where you got the idea that *sitting safely in your mansions while others die* is what war is about.   No one has a duty to me.  How elite of you to believe that someone has a duty to die for you.  I’m sorry to burst your bubble about women and their masters.   I doubt that sexual harassment is any more prevalent in the armed forces than it is in mainstream America.   There are jerks everywhere who abuse women, even people who sit safely in their mansions cricizing our armed forces.  

    

By Teresa Kerwick on 08/25/2009 1:26 am
Teresa  Kerwick

I agree with baby snooks.  We should just move beyond the need for war.   I’m thinking that if we disbanded the armed forces that all of the world would too.   Thank goodness we finally have a president who will tell the world how sorry we are for all of the mayhem and foolishness caused by our war mongering past.  I’m sorry for any man or woman who is forced by circumstances beyond their control to join our armed forces because they cannot do anything else productive in life and had no other choice.   I fully support the troops but I know that they would never be doing what they are doing if they weren’t brainwashed by our imperialist past.     And then they come home and they are all psycho and start killing civilians at random.   Because they don’t know any better.  

s/off    

 

 

 

By Teresa Kerwick on 08/25/2009 12:54 am
nirmala heriza
With the rhetoric of war, I’m somehow reminded of  the John Lennon lyric: "All we are saying is, give peace a chance".  And then, of course, Mahatma Gandhi’s famous quote "an eye for an only makes the whole world blind". 
By nirmala heriza on 08/25/2009 1:34 pm
nirmala heriza
Gandhi’s famous quote actually being,  "an eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind". 
By nirmala heriza on 08/25/2009 1:38 pm
Susan B.
That’s a great way to start the week! (to be reminded of that quote) Thanks for sharing.
By Susan B. on 09/14/2009 8:59 am