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Dear Margo | 10/16/2009 3:00 am

Dear Margo: And We Have a Winner for the 'Skunk Award'

Margo Howard

And We Have a Winner for the "Skunk Award"

Dear Margo: I am in desperate need of advice. My inability to let go of my husband’s past is causing a rift in our marriage and a decline in my health. We’ve been married for a year and generally have a happy relationship. I know he loves me and would never be unfaithful … but here is my problem. I always believed you should wait until marriage for sex. Naturally, I was intimidated when my husband told me he’d had over 100 sex partners in his lifetime, and that he’d been engaged twice before me and had loved these women very much. He often compares me to one of them and, while arguing, has told me he wished he could go back to her because she is so much better in bed than I am. He’s told me (not while we were arguing, I might add) that he does think about her and what life would be like had he ended up with her.

I have been so stressed about this that at times I lose my appetite and get depressed to the point where I don’t even want to speak or look at my husband. I cry myself to sleep sometimes just thinking about the things he has said to me. I’ve been working so hard to make myself beautiful for him and to cater to his needs, but he still brags about his past to his buddies and brings it up in arguments. I have asked him to please respect me enough to not say such things while I am in the room, but he seems to forget and does it anyway. After we argue, he claims he only says those things because he knows they upset me, and that he loves me and no one else. How am I supposed to forget his past if he keeps bringing it up? — Trying To Forget

Dear Try: What an insensitive and insecure swine you’ve ended up with. This is not normal, friendly, loving behavior, and short of inviting him to go see if what’s-her-name is still available, I would ask him the following questions: Why in the world would he want to upset you? What does he think he is doing for the marriage by throwing all the comparisons in your face? If he is exceptionally dim, you might book a few sessions with a couples counselor to help him understand. Never mind the damage he’s already done, if he can’t straighten up, I would see to it that there is no Year Two. — Margo, absolutely 

When a Co-Worker’s Judgment Is Somewhere Between Bad and Nonexistent

Dear Margo: I have an uncomfortable situation at work. There is a group of ladies who share the same break time as mine. There are five of us in total. Four of us stick to "work appropriate" topics such as the weather, plans for the weekend, the workload, etc. One of us, we’ll call her "Patti," seems to have an affinity for going off on tangents that are both offensive and narrow-minded. One of my co-workers is pregnant, and as we were talking about how wonderful she looked (you know, the pregnancy glow), Patti started ranting about abortions and how they are murder. She loves to yell (quite literally) about her religion, and how it is the only way to live. Those are the topics just from this week. How do I handle this out-of-control co-worker? I would like a polite way to tell her that I don’t share her views, nor do I think they are appropriate workplace conversation. — Fed Up

Dear Fed: I am not sure why people are reticent to speak up when something is clearly uncomfortable. What I suggest you tell Mary Sunshine is that her political and religious rants are not what you want to listen to on your break. Tell her to save her incendiary topics for a different group of people. If she can’t get a grip and play nice, then go where she is not for your break. — Margo, insistently 

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Van Lee

"We’ve been married for a year and generally have a happy relationship."

-then-

"I have been so stressed about this that at times I lose my appetite and get depressed to the point where I don’t even want to speak or look at my husband. I cry myself to sleep sometimes just thinking about the things he has said to me."

This is what is known as cognitive dissonance.  LW, wake up and smell the sh**.  Then do something about it. Margo’s advice is a good start.

By Van Lee on 10/16/2009 12:36 am
Constance Plank

#1:  I don’t think that this is a desperate need on your part to let go of your husband’s of one year’s past.  This is your husband’s issue, not yours, and it sounds like a personality disorder.

100 past sexual partners is not normal with someone who wants to build a relationship with anybody!  So, how does that divide into years per partner?  Meanwhile, if he is comparing you negatively sexually to past partners, I’d assume, based on a dear friend of mine’s experience, that he was actively having sex with this person.  They’d been dating for a long time before they decided to marry when she became pregnant.

Over the years, he had told her how he wished she was more like this that or the other woman.  Turns out he had sex with all of them.  Worst yet was that most of them were her friends through him. I’m pleased to say that she promptly divorced him, and is a fair amount happier, although now her ex-spouse is messing with their mutual son.

Even despite that, being told that you are not as good as another woman in bed is utterly destructive of a relationship.  It’s once again not your issue-it’s his.  Since you waited to have sex until you married him, he could have taught you to be exactly what he wanted sexually.  I assume that you wanted to please him?  So, it’s his problem.

My soon to be ex husband moved out two years ago, thanks to his parents whom I begged to help.  My ex only likes porn, and his own right hand.  It was devastating to me over our 20 year marriage.  

I am certain that, had I not been interested in making love, my sexual life would have been far more abundant.  

There are bad men out there.  You are married to one of them. So am I. More time will not fix it.

Cheers.

Constance in the Sierra Foothills

By Constance Plank on 10/16/2009 12:40 am
chuck alien

"100 past sexual partners is not normal"  is plain wrong, on lots of levels.   your opinion on the correct number of past sexual partners is utterly useless to anyone but you.

it’s not "normal" or good to do all the nonsense this guy is pulling… he’s clearly a jerk with real problems.

but one of those problems is NOT how many people he’s slept with.  it’s what he does with that information.

so calm down on your "perfect sex partner calculator index for shut-ins" and focus on the real problem, hm?

By chuck alien on 10/19/2009 4:31 pm
K W
LW1: He is emotionally abusing you.  Do NOT go to couples counselling.  It is not on an even playing field with someone who is emotionally abusive and he will use anything from those meetings to use against you later.  Contact your women’s shelter as soon as possible and learn everything you can about emotional abuse.
By K W on 10/16/2009 12:43 am
Lin Cercone

HEY KW

You’re absolutely right, he is abusing her.  I don’t what advice she’ll be able to accept, she’s so down on herself at this point.  I do know this:  People use jealousy to control others.  He’s keeping her down to control her.  As long as she allows it, he’ll do it.  I believe he’s a very insecure man, why else would he need to brag about his 100 conquests?  This will not be a happy ending.  The only way she’ll have any happiness is if she leaves him.  SEE A LAWYER ASAP and get out before he does any more damage to your self-esteem.  This will NEVER GET BETTER, take it from someone who knows.  GET OUT NOW!

By Lin Cercone on 10/16/2009 3:41 am
Lin Cercone
CORRECTIONI don’t know what advice she’ll be able to accept…
By Lin Cercone on 10/16/2009 3:46 am
A R

Well said, Lin! You hit that nail on the head. A man or woman who is that unkind to his or her partner will not stop doing it because you ask them to. He knows exactly what he is doing, because it has likely worked for him before in previous relationships.


I hate for her that she chose a man who did not have the same views about premarital sex as she does. I do not personally feel that it is wise to marry someone without knowing if the sexual chemistry is a good fit, however if she believes that then it must have been important to her. It would have been smart to find someone who had the same background as she has.That wouldn’t guarantee a great marriage, but at least it would have put them on the same playing field. To me, this sounds like a classic case of her settling for him and turning a blind eye to his past in order to secure a certain future. 

I say that because in my experience, people don’t genuinely change significantly during the time from dating or cohabitation to marriage (provided you are together for long enough time to see who they are first). It is rare to find a man or woman who can successfully hide his or her true nature over the course of dating and engagement. Even if many claim to have been fooled, in hindsight there are a million red flags that we as partners choose to overlook at the time.

I do not believe for a moment that during their courtship he never once insulted her appearance to gain the upper hand, never once compared her to other women, and never once mentioned that he was not a virgin as well.

By A R on 10/17/2009 9:23 am
Joy K
LW#1 … First go to THE BEST DIVORCE ATTY in your area … Then …get your hair and nails done buy a sexy new outfit and PLEASE have his bags packed and sitting OUTSIDE the door when he comes home from work open the door before he uses his key (you don’t want him to know you changed all locks alarms etc) inform him that you care way too much to deny him anything and your setting HIM FREE to go to ‘what’s her name’ No spouse male/female needs to be treated like that and it will not get better listen to your atty!!!!
By Joy K on 10/16/2009 12:44 am
Margo Howard
You and some of the other girls are tougher than I am! I must say I enjoyed your scenario, but my hunch is this woman is not there yet.
By Margo Howard on 10/16/2009 9:10 am
carol wild
You know, on first glance I agreed with this, but on reflection, it took a LOT of realization for her to write about this as a problem.  I think the other posters are all correct; one brought up their courtship, and the certainty that he treated her the same way then.  She must have had terrible self-esteem and great blinders on, so for her to finally see this as the problem it is shows that she has developed her strength and understanding, and might actually be ready to stand up for herself and be done with him.  At least, we can hope that’s the case!
By carol wild on 10/23/2009 3:28 pm
E .

L#1

Dear Trying - Your man is a major ass. 

You’ve only been married for a year - just how much arguing is going on?  He’s pulling out the big guns and aiming for your heart for what?  To win a lovers’ quarrel, to boost his ego in front of the boys … some sadistic pleasure?  Seek some outside guidance.  If you were my daughter I’d be sick over your choice for a mate. You deserve better honey.

Wishing you light, true love and much happiness,  E

By E . on 10/16/2009 12:46 am
Mary E. Sayler
Had something of the same going on in the Teachers Lounge at my school.  It wasn’t religion and politics but the views that teachers had about their students and the parents of their students.  I got so tired of the teachers that complained about their students, in particular the ones that they had problems with in the classroom.  They also complained about the mothers—didn’t like the way they dressed.  I never said anything because in the school setting you never can be sure who the pet is and the pet is never criticized if you want to avoid problems with the building manager (Principal).  I solved my problem by not going into the Lounge but then I was critized for being anti-social.  My job was to TEACH my students and that was all I was interested in doing.  Gossip was not something that held any interest for then or now.
By Mary E. Sayler on 10/16/2009 12:46 am
Amy Gorin

Telling the coworker that she is inappropriate isn’t going to work. She’s on a mission, not having a conversation, and will just add religious persecution to her rant list. What will work is if everyone gets up and leaves when she starts in on a tirade. It doesn’t have to be all at once - it’s actually more powerful if people just drift away. And if she asks where you’re going, explain that you just don’t want to hear about her pet peeve right now (she asked, so she can’t claim it was a confrontation).

Shunning works wonders.

By Amy Gorin on 10/16/2009 12:49 am
John Lee
Well said.  Telling the coworker that her rants are inappropriate is only going to add fuel to the fire.  Someone with the audacity to spew their hatred loves to feel self-righteous and engage in war of words.  Just leaving them is a good step.  If that doesn’t work, then go with HR.
By John Lee on 10/16/2009 10:50 am
devon mclaughlin
"Shunning works wonders."  I agree!  Passive-aggressive behavior is appropriate when you know the person is too clueless to understand a direct remark.  (Let’s hope your co-workers all get on board.)  Since I’m a bit mischievous, and staunchly pro-choice, I’d show up with a blood-red roast beef sandwich, eat it enthusiastically, and wait for her abortion tirade.  Then I’d cry out that she’s ruined my lunch, I’ll never be able to eat my favorite sandwich again, and vomit into a wastebasket.  But that’s just me. ;)
By devon mclaughlin on 10/16/2009 12:33 pm