Dear Margo | 09/02/2009 11:00 pm
Dear Margo: What to Do When a Daughter Is Without the Compassion Gene
What To Do When a Daughter Is Without the Compassion Gene
Dear Margo: I thought I’d write to you since I have nowhere to turn. I’ve been divorced for 14 years and had two children from that marriage. I am now married to my new husband and have a son with him. The problem is my daughter from my first marriage, who is mad at me because I refuse to attend parties and get-togethers that involve my ex-husband and his mother. The stress I experience in their presence is unbearable. I am literally nauseated due to the mental and physical abuse he put me through while we were married. I cannot bear to look at him, and when he looks my way, he has this big grin on his face. His mother hates me because I divorced him, and she glares at me whenever she sees me but doesn’t acknowledge me.
I have explained to my daughter how I feel and even offered to attend her parties after they have left or see her another day. What should I do? I know her father is enjoying the fact that I get sick if I have to attend these functions. And his mother never had anything to do with my children while we were married, and now is trying to take over during all the get-togethers. When we were married, he always threatened that he would take my children away from me if I wouldn’t perform certain perverted acts with him. Now I believe he’s found a way to take them away from me even though they are now adults. Help. I cannot lose them now. — Sandy
Dear San: Your grown daughter sounds as though she has the understanding of a Chihuahua, no offense to that breed of dog. Does she know of the abuse? If she doesn’t, she should be informed; and if she does, which I suspect is the case, she must be on her dad’s payroll. Rather than being submissive and going along with this garbage, I would read this kid the riot act and tell her you are not subjecting yourself to being at the mercy of your abuser and his witchy-sounding mother. If she has so little regard for your feelings that she has a hissy fit because you won’t play "Let’s Pretend," I don’t think you’ve "lost" much by skipping the affairs at Ulcer Gulch. — Margo, furiously
Could Things Get Any More Complex?
Dear Margo: I am a college student, taking some time off. I’ve been conversing with a married transsexual woman I met online, and I have a desire to meet her in person. She and her spouse, also transsexual, are polyamorous and are more than happy to have another romantic interest. Due to my state’s economy, I have no job prospects, but I do have enough saved so that travel expenses would not burden me. However, I am wondering how I should go about breaking the news to my parents. I don’t want to lie, but I am also not convinced they need to know everything yet. — Exploring
Dear Ex: Frankly, if you were to tell your parents, I’m not sure what you would tell them. This is certainly one of those situations where you can’t tell the players without a score card — or a birth certificate — let alone trying to explain it to someone else. I’m not sure you would even know with whom you’re, um, having the pleasure. I doubt that this is a good idea to begin with, but that is not what you asked me. You are right, however, that it would not be wise to announce to your folks that you’re off on a sexual adventure with two transgendered people and their polyamorous friends. They would likely keel over, so just say — if you really decide to do this — you’re going to visit some friends you met online. — Margo, confoundedly
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LW2: Way above my head. Glad he had a good time.
It is definitely better to keep some things to oneself if it isn’t hurting anyone.
I was married and divoriced twice during a 24 year period to the same man, who mentally and verbally beat the hell out of you, to feel like he was in control. Thankfully not a perverted being though, but since the last time I divoriced him, after two years I spoke to him and one of the questions I asked was "why"? That was all I wanted to know. The answer stunned me, this was a very intelligient man and a math and science wizard. He told me that he did what he had done, because the smart side of myself he found scarey. Makes me wonder how many others out there, fall under this form of control born from the fear of the abuser themself? In our lives, we have found peace. He has remarried an incredible woman and functions for the kids and grandkids are done together with some seating space in between. She needs to give it some time and find answers she still needs to know.
Letter #1: Margo said it best. Do not attend these functions. At some point your ex will reveal himself as the louse he is and your daughter will come back to you. At which time you will receive her lovingly.
Letter #2: hey, your single, you want to explore, as long as you are doing it on your dime and don’t scare the horses I don’t care. Just be careful because while there are definitely good friendships that can be made online, there are also some really crazy dangerous people out there and sexual experimentation of the sort you describe is sort of a red flag to me…but glad it worked out well this time.
Devon — I love your parenthetical "Don’t ask me how I know this." As for your pro-witch sentiments, they are mine, as well. I am known as a friend of the Wiccans and have even been saluted by them in their on-line publication. I will try to retire the word "witchy," given your sensibilities.
And I agree that a big smile back at him would be very effective, but this woman is made physically ill by being in his presence, which I can understand. Think of the ex as a rapist, if even of the mind f … er, rape variety. My displeasure (disgust?) is really aimed at the daughter, and few people seem to be with me there.
You refer to the daughter as "grown", and since you have contact with the LW before these letters are published, I trust you on that one. I’m not knocking your advice or the fact that you’re perturbed with the kid for acting like a selfish jerk—I just find myself wondering how mature the daughter can really be.
the LW says that she’s been divorced for 14 years, which means that the "kid" has to be at least 14, but one thing she doesn’t mention is whether there is a mental handicap involved here.
Please don’t read this as my trying to let an adult off the hook for acting like a complete child, but if there is a handicap involved—which, again, I’m sure you know because of the fact that you’re in contact with the people you publish—that should be considered.
Sans handicap, there is no excuse for an adult to treat her mother this way. It doesn’t matter whether she is familiar with the details of the abuse. Also—frankly, as selfish/manipulated as the kid sounds, I’m not sure she would take any accounts of the abuse the LW experienced at face value anyway.
it’s not that I think the daughter has a mental handicap.
I’m trying to wrap my brain around the fact that an adult has an attitude of that sort. I know people who are ridiculously selfish, but the fact that this person refuses to accept the fact that an ex-wife doesn’t want to be around an ex-husband (never mind the abuse factor) just struck me as much more childish than the usual selfishness.
In defense of the daughter, we’re only hear one side of the story - her mother’s PERCEPTIONS of her daughter. It’s entirely possible that the daughter truly doesn’t know the whole story. After 14 years, it’s entirely possible the daughter wasn’t there or aware of any abuse. And if mom’s not entirely 100% upfront about the past, it’s possible that the daughter can not comprehend why her mom would not want to participate in past events because of a parent this child loves.
But if that’s not the case, and this daughter is just really this self-involved, then LW needs to be prepared to miss out on her daughter’s life. And I personally think that’s too much power to give this man.
Margo I agree this woman should read her daughter the riot act and not go to any family gatherings or she could smile sweetly at her ex and his mother and tell them what a wonderful life she has now that she is free of them.
As for #2 I think caution is the word the little college student needs to think twice about hooking up with people you don’t know except fron the internet.
Margo (and for others info), this is a perfect example of how one normally reacts when they encounter a former abuser (it’s a true story of an abused woman our community helped) - in a mere 3 months, she was not only choked, but thorwn into deep water a night out of their boat and held under by an abusing maniac. Two years later, in a grocery store she caught sight of him (he was out on parole!), and began shaking violently, so she ran out the back of the grocery store to the loading dock, and … jumped!
Believe it or not, she landed safely with a sprained ankle - and an employee was there, and helped her.
This was not an unusual reaction to confronting a memory of abuse, nor an actual one; in fact, it was healthy.
"Believe it or not, she landed safely with a sprained ankle"
I believe it. the Universe takes care of its (his/her?) own many times, especially the ones who need more help.