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Dear Margo | 10/30/2009 12:15 am

Dear Margo: When Idiot Strangers Speak

Margo Howard

When Idiot Strangers Speak

Dear Margo: Why do people feel the need to make comments about unusual numbers and sexes and looks of families? I am a mother of three daughters, one son and a stepdaughter. Invariably, when we’re out, someone makes a comment. Before the birth of my son we would hear, "That’s a lot of weddings" and "Are you going to keep going until you get a boy?" People would actually ask me if I wished one of my children were a boy! When I found out my fourth child was a boy, I began dreading the inevitable, and sure enough people did not disappoint. "Finally got that boy, huh?" I am so thankful to have my children and would have loved them no matter what the sex. Other mothers of large families also tell me of times they’ve been told, "You have your hands full" or "You already had a boy and a girl, why’d you keep going?"

People also comment on my children’s looks … which one they find more aesthetically pleasing and their heights and age differences. A co-worker of mine who has a biological child that appears to be of a different race always gets asked if she’s the child’s nanny. And all of these comments are made right in front of the children. Please remind your readers that families come in all different sizes, colors and ages, and that a simple "You have a beautiful family" will suffice. — Lucky To Have My Children in N.Y.

Dear Luck: What can I tell you? Some people are dumb and think it’s fine to say whatever they’re thinking. I believe a suitable way to show your displeasure with such inappropriate musings would be to knit your eyebrows together, give them the fish-eye and say nothing. Sometimes silence is a killer. — Margo, responsively

Taking a Break and Waiting it Out

Dear Margo: When I began dating my boyfriend, he would remark occasionally that he would never love again, that he had no heart to give anymore. His ex-girlfriend, whom he was with for four years, did quite the number on him when she dumped him. I was hurt to hear him say those things, and now, nine months later, I realize it might be true. He’s admitted he doesn’t love me, but that he "cares." He’s not very tender, he doesn’t like to kiss, and he has never hugged me (the only exception being when we lie in bed to watch TV, he puts his arm around me).

What doesn’t make sense is that while he has admitted to not being in love with me, he can be caring and thoughtful. He claims to be a very emotional person, but I have never seen any evidence of that. He is sweet, a gentleman, brilliant and entrepreneurial, and has taught me a great deal, both intellectually and emotionally. I am stupidly in love with him, but I am desperate for someone to hold me and tell me they love me. I have no idea what to do. I have never felt this way before, but knowing that he doesn’t love me has left me broken. — Downtrodden in Florida

Dear Down: I sympathize with your dilemma. It sounds as though this man has much to recommend him, but he has basically told you he doesn’t have it in him to love again. I suspect he won’t feel this way forever, but for now the situation is no good for you. Perhaps suggest that you two take a break so he can figure out whether he needs you in his life. If you stick around with this arrangement, he will break your heart. — Margo, sensibly  

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Cool One

Lots of children with European ancestry have blonde hair when they are younger, which darkens as they age. Sort of like the spots fading on a fawn as it matures.

In our family, one parent has always been swarthy (olive skin, dark hair and eyes) and the other what Hitler would have called Aryan. Only one child of many had dark eyes, and only always have had dark hair. Even though darker genes are usually dominant, it’s still a crap shoot.

Personally, those comments - esp around the kids - are rude when they put one child above another in come way. A comment like, "My daughter looked just like her at her age!" is a compliment, and doesn’t take anything away from the others. Implying that the parent wouldn’t or shouldn’t want one or more is uncalled for. I know plenty of foster and adoptive families, and a comment about the kid not looresembling the parent only adds to the uncertainty some kids have about whether they are really wanted where they are.

By Cool One on 10/31/2009 7:23 am
E .

L#1

Dear Lucky,

Some people are foolish and say foolish things.  Smile as you shake your head in disagreement and say something pleasant like "hi there - have a great day" so that you can disarm them instead of engaging any more of their idiot buttons.

Your complaints don’t compare to the buffoonish strangers who view a woman’s  baby bump as license to touch her belly or stare at her breasts and ask if she’ll be nursing.  

Wishing you and your family patience and wisdom,  E

By E . on 10/30/2009 7:58 pm
E .

L#2

Dear Downtrodden,

Your BF sounds like an ideal friend.  Maybe you two aren’t meant to be.  Maybe he’s lazy in the romance department.  Maybe he’s just not that into you.  Maybe there’s more to him than you know.  Whatever the case you deserve to sail to the stars in a love relationship - why settle for the beautiful but permanently docked spaceship?  Tell him you’ve been thinking that maybe you two should not be exclusive.  See if that creates a spark in him.

I wonder how much of the story of his previous romance is the truth and how much is a cover.    

Wishing you much love and happiness,  E

By E . on 10/30/2009 8:14 pm
Siena Duarte

I used to be friends with several girls who were part of an eight-child family. Yep, their parents stopped when they got the boy (number eight). All the girls were conscious of the fact that several of them would have not existed if the boy had come earlier, and the boy was definitely pampered and treated differently. However, I would never dream of saying anything to the parents - that’s unproductive and unneccesary. I guess the girls will deal with it in their own ways.

Not that LW #1 is like that. It sounds like she has had her children for the right reasons.

By Siena Duarte on 10/30/2009 8:31 pm
Cool One

Letter 1: All of these are quite rude, and should be treated as such, except for "you have your hands full." I’ve heard people say that my entire life (being from a large family myself.) If they are smiling when they say it, it generally means "You have a fine family" or "I admire anyone who is able to manage with so many children." I’ve heard that said to families with only 2 children, so don’t take it personally.

If the person is NOT smiling, the phrase usually means something like, "Please deal with your kids, as they are creating a disturbance" or worse, "Why would anyone have so many and why do I have to be subjected to anyone’s kids (no matter how well behaved)?"

By Cool One on 10/31/2009 7:17 am
Connie Rauch

My sister’s husband use to take my three year old son places. People would tell my sister they had never seen a father and son who looked so much alike. Brother-in-law and three year old were not blood related at all. My sister would say nothing.

By Connie Rauch on 10/31/2009 10:05 am
Briana Baran

LW1): Um, well, again, I find some of the comments…interesting. Both times that I was pregnant, I barely showed until the fifth month. Then the baby would sort of fall out of my very narrow pelvis and I would suddenly develop this enormous protuberance. And I do mean enormous. I am very short, and I was all belly and boobs (I gained only 20 lbs. with each pregnancy). People were always wanting to touch, and no one was ever rude about it. I even was asked by a Korean woman (through her daughter) if the daughter could rub my head for luck. I was a very happy pregnant woman, even though the latter part of both pregnancies caused serious back pain, and I had all-day sickness (and an unfulfilled craving for Taco Bell) through-out. I normally don’t like being touched, and don’t like crowds, and I myself am a non-intrusive person and would never think of touching someone unasked. But I wasn’t offended at all…in fact, I found the interest quite natural.

As for weird comments from people, I also have an autistic son (18 now), and have weathered all sorts of interesting situations. I have no embarrassment threshold anymore, not after he put his pants around his knees and walked through the mall half-naked. He also used to scream in restaurants at the slightest provocation. In the latter case, we would remove him (the world does not have to accomodate your children), especially when we realized that he realized that he could manipulate us with his screaming. Autistic does not mean stupid. I never had anyone comment on this. On his acting out in other places, o, my, yes. He excelled at tantrums when he could not get his way, and I once had an older woman fuss at me, first for allowing the tantrum, then for fussing at him for it. I picked him up, with a fiendish smile on my face, and asked her if she’d like to have him. I have perfected the evil grin and toneless comeback.

My younger son is very fair, and people keep asking if his granny is his mom. She just rolls her eyes and says "Thanks for the compliment". I’m also an "older mom" and often get the "why did you wait so long?" bit. My answers are either "common sense dictated" or "why didn’t you?". I’ve also had people ask me if my sons are related. Sigh. They’re half brothers. Also, "why did you wait so long in between?" I tell nosy people that I really didn’t, I just sold the others to science. But get all butt-hurt and offended? O, my, no. I’ve been taking crap from people all of my life because I’m "different" (whatever that means, aren’t we all?), and I’ve learned that getting upset because people are crass, ignorant, insensitive or just plain stupid isn’t worth it. Give them a grin and fire right back. No need to get all up-tight and fire f-bombs, they might actually understand that. Instead, leave them trying to figure out what just happened and walk away, smiling to yourself.

By Briana Baran on 10/31/2009 10:57 am
CharliAnn Olney

Re: Granny - I have red hair, Hubby has black hair, adopted daughter has blond but is tall and lanky like hubby and has a personality like me.  People had no problem with her being "ours" - go fig.  When she married she adopted her brother’s son - dark hair - intense blue eyes, had a boy RED hair, blue eyes: twins, girl reddish-blond, green/blue eyes; boy very blond, blue eyes; then another boy RED hair Very blue eyes.  When we are all out together, we get the big family comments (MOST of the time with a smile) and the one all the adults laugh at is "Well, we know where the red hair came from!"

RE- "evil grin" yeah I get that one too my two oldest boys have different fathers and are -um - widely spaced.  One is also very tall and ALWAYS was. (23+” at birth)  I was attending to his needs in a restroom once and a lady came in.  "Oh, how cute!  How old is he?"  "6 months"  "Mentally?"  Long pause with dead stare "Yep and chronologically, too.  He was born six months ago yesterday!  Any other stupid questions?"  She blushed and left.  She blushed even harder when she saw me walk out with the kid’s 6’10" father!  He is not so tall now - only 6’7"!  LOL  My youngest son is the "shrimp" in the family at 5’9" because my daughter is 5’11".  No, actually, I am the shrimp.  I am 5’6" standing, but since I am usually in a wheelchair, I REALLY have to look up to every one!  hahahaha!!!!!  Even current hubby is 6’8".  Gee, what is it wid me?  I guess I like the sky!

By CharliAnn Olney on 11/01/2009 11:21 pm
Harriet Shoebridge

story one … "please remind your readers that families come in all different sizes" … so, what’s with the hesitation in telling these insensitive clods, to their face, in front of the children, that their comments are unwanted??? .. someone told me, years ago, that being a parent was not for sissies … includes, as per this story, standing up for your children when literally faced with idiots.

story two … well, as long as Downtrodden never tires of watching television, on the sofa  … when and where the single act of affection occurs, well, there’s no problem, is there???  Has taught Downtrodden alot intellectually and emotionally??? about what???  Give him a pillow to hug and say good-bye … enough, already.

By Harriet Shoebridge on 11/01/2009 4:06 am
Ruby Stewart

I think people in general just often have diarrhea of the mouth. And I’ve heard it many times in my own life. When my oldest daugter was a toddler, we had gone to the grocery store across the street from us. Since it had a bakery, I had gotten her a cookie and she was walking with it in her hand. Some old guy had the gall to tell me that she was too fat to be eating cookies (she was a chunky baby). Because I had been taught to respect my elders as a child, the old man was saved from a rude remark. A few years later, we moved to a racially-diverse city in California. I am a bi-racial woman (African-American & Caucasian) and while the father of both my daughters is also African-American, the girls have my skin tone. As well as my hair type. I’ve had many African-American women come up to me offering to do my daughters’ hair. I found it insulting because to me it seemed that they thought that since I looked white, I couldn’t handle a black girl’s hair. One woman even told their father that she could do braid the girls’ hair, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, even though I had just did it my self the day before.

The sad thing is that most of the people who make the rude comments are adults. At least with young children, you know that they don’t know better, haven’t been taught better by their parents, and are sometimes unabashedly truthful. They see what they see, and don’t have the ability to know when not to comment.

By Ruby Stewart on 11/01/2009 4:55 pm
CharliAnn Olney
Re:  Letter #1  I was "that kid".  My mother was 7/8 Native American.  My Father was only 1/4 Native American, but my brothers looked like my Mom and Dad.  Darker skin and hair and the black eyes.  Then, I was born.  I got the black eyes and even the bone structure, but know one could see it for the blond-red hair and the fair skin. (My father’s mother was Irish to the core!)  I would go to Gatherings with my Mom’s family and there would be comments, outings with my Dad’s and it would be the same.  Only among my Grandmother’s family was I completely accepted (until they saw my brothers!)  Even my brother’s would tease me that I was adopted!  (Until my Mom heard them and hit the ROOF!!!)  Once, Mom said she was going to get a shirt that said "I gave birth to ALL of them and Proud of it!"  Add that to the fact that we were 5 years apart! Now, my hair is darker (yep, turned auburn - just like Grandma’s) and the skin is not quite as fair (you can no longer see through it)!  But, you can still pick me out of the family line up, just look for the glow!  And, yes, although I am a registered member of the Nation - I constantly have to pull out the ID card to prove it, even when I attend Gatherings with the rest of my family!  So, I guess I am still - "that kid".  LOL
By CharliAnn Olney on 11/01/2009 10:46 pm
Kamesa Carter
Downtrodden: Leave that guy alone. He’s telling you in a bulls—t way that he does not want to be with you. Most guys are not gonna come right out and say, "I don’t want a relationship with you." They’re gonna say it in some pretty way (my heart is too damaged to love again, I don’t any heart left to give anyone) to get you to feel like you have to "change" him or get him to see that you would be so good for him. You said in your letter that you want someone to tell you that they love you. This jerk said that he does not, so why are you settling for less? Like all the other ladies on here have said, you are not the one. I am willing to bet that 2 weeks-1 month later, he will have found his heart to give to someone else. I wasted most of my teen and young adult years on a guy that played this exact game! He would say that crap, I would get fed up and leave him alone, date someone new, ex would show up all hearts and flowers, and being so damn sheltered and inexperienced, I would just lap it all up and take him back only to have him tell me that crap all over again. The last time he did that, I told him to kiss my big behind and I married a man who tells me he loves me and treats me like a queen. Meanwhile the ex has several kids out of wedlock and no money because he’s paying mucho child support and living with whatever woman will have him. Now he’s telling anyone who’ll listen that he wished he hadn’t treated me so bad. Wise up and get out now.
By Kamesa Carter on 11/01/2009 11:27 pm
Lym BO
Usually the mothers are given drug screens. Domestically, many of them are followed from early stages of pregnancy. One does have the choice to state what your criteria are in regards to health, gender, race, etc.  We registered with two domestic agencies & an international program. I was open to some health issues like say a missing arm or correctable birth defect. We were presented with one preg. lady whose mental health history was terrible as was the father’s so we declined.  Our plan was to adopt internationally then in a few years be chose to adopt domestically. We ended up adopting twins from Armenia (young babies, single parents, no Jews or Muslims though, they prefer Christians-which we were at the time).  I know of lesbians who have adopted from there, but I’m not sure if it was disclosed. I’m not aware of any pact one has to sign. It is common not to be completely forthcoming about stuff the agency feels might hinder your chances when one would be a good parent.  THe hair thing is cute. It would just require you to have a friend who is AA or find a good hairdresser. We have a slew of kids in our area from Haiti. They’ve done that or kept it short & natural. I figure as they get older & care about it they will seek out advice from classmates, etc.   If I remember correctly the tax credit can be applied over a number of years. We actually got a check back in form of a refund. You would have to read it more thoroughly. I found it rather contradictory. I think their may have been a FAQ section. We use TurboTax so it guides one through. Back to domestic,  We actually did get called to adopt by both agencies abt the time we got back with the twins. At that point, we declined & thought we wouldn’t want anymore, but that changed….  I wouldn’t be wary of the domestic with sliding. They will give you references & talk at length how it goes in your state. 
By Lym BO on 11/02/2009 7:53 am
Elizabeth Cota
I was shopping with my husband and stepson the day before Halloween and some lady tapped me on the shoulder and said ‘oh what a cute kid, he doesn’t look anything like you though’ and I told her ‘of course he doesn’t, he’s my stepson.’ She turned beet red and walked away
By Elizabeth Cota on 11/02/2009 5:53 pm
Leslie Hall
This girl should listen to him and not just walk, but run for the nearest door. I dated someone like him and he told me the same thing, his ex-wife had really hurt him when she cheated on him. But I hung in there because he had a lot to offer. The only thing he couldn’t offer were love and affection. I wasted a year with him. He hasn’t chagned, according to his newest girlfriend. Everyone deserves to be with someone who loves and respects him/her.
By Leslie Hall on 11/03/2009 1:49 pm