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Dear Margo | 04/30/2009 11:00 pm

Dear Margo: I Hear Ya Knockin', but You Can't Come In

What can I do to reclaim my Saturdays from Jehovah’s Witnesses who knock at my door? Margo Howard’s bright advice …
Margo Howard

I Hear Ya Knockin’, but You Can’t Come In

Dear Margo: I need help with a sensitive issue. In the area where I live we get a lot of Jehovah’s Witnesses who knock on our doors early on Saturday mornings. Not only do I enjoy sleeping in on my Saturdays, I do not believe what Jehovah’s Witnesses believe. I also believe that religion is a personal choice that should be respected by everyone else, whether they believe the same or not. I have politely told them I have my own religion, which prompts a "debate." I have even been told, flat-out, that I am wrong! Once, I left a note on my door asking not to be disturbed, but that did not work. Ignoring the doorbell does not work, either. I really do not want to be rude, but I don’t know what to say anymore to get them to leave me alone. What can I do to reclaim my Saturdays from these people? I hope you print this. I have never seen you broach this subject before. — Feeling Assaulted

Dear Feel: I don’t think I have written about this before … but I’ve answered my door a few times and had the same problem you have had. I was going to suggest leaving a note on your door, but you say that doesn’t work. I am not sure why ignoring the doorbell is not successful; with no answer, they have no choice but to move on. Because you say you like to sleep late on Saturday mornings, sleep with earplugs Friday night so the bell does not wake you. You might try another note that says "No one is home until noon. We work the night shift." Should you answer the door — when you’re awake — and someone launches into the spiel, I think you have earned the right to simply close the door. I have never been able to figure out why this particular band of missionaries is so tone-deaf to people saying they are not interested. — Margo, sympathetically

When You’re Mad on Another’s Behalf


Dear Margo: I have a real doozy for you and no idea what to do. My brother "Steve" is married to "Jennifer," and the two of them have a young daughter. Steve is a wonderful man. To shorten a very long story, Jennifer admitted to my brother she was having an affair, said she wanted to be with this other man and asked for a divorce. My brother was devastated. To make matters worse, she was cheating on my brother with a man who was married and also had a young child … and a pregnant wife! So they split up and were headed for divorce when — as you’ve probably guessed — Jennifer and the other man split up. He went crawling back to his pregnant wife, and she came crawling back to my brother.
Fast-forward to today: My brother and Jennifer have decided to stay together and work on their marriage. I love my brother and want to be supportive, but I can’t get over my anger toward this woman. She’s slowly making appearances at family gatherings, dinners, etc, and I know I’m going to have to see her some time (although I’ve been able to avoid it so far). Others in the family tell me I should "suck it up," "put on a happy face," "forgive and forget." Doing those things, however, would make me feel like I am betraying my brother. I know when I finally do see her she’s going to act like nothing happened and approach me with a hug. It makes me sick to think of even being nice to this woman, let alone giving her a hug. How can I move forward and also feel like I’m standing up for my brother? — Feeling None Too Forgiving

Dear Feel: It’s not your marriage, hon. If you really want to be there for your brother, you will go along with his decision for his family’s future. (And there’s always the chance this babe may still wander off the reservation.) I understand your anger toward and lack of respect for this woman, but if your brother can forgive her, you should try. You were not the wronged party. And, of course, you are entitled to your opinions. Enough said. — Margo, encouragingly
***

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Lisa S.
I used to be in the "Update Profile" page.  Did they remove it?
By Lisa S. on 05/01/2009 8:34 am
nanchan u

You may need to hit the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of the page and request a name change.  Explain why.

I believe that they have stopped making it easy for people to change their names is that several posters (you can tell who after you’ve been here for awhile) keep changing their screen name in order to play a sort of game with the other posters.  I applaud WOW for this decision.  Hope this helps!

By nanchan u on 05/01/2009 12:43 pm
B Clark
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A few years ago I lived in a neighborhood that was becoming quite urban.  It was a convenient neighborhood to easily go door to door.  You name it, I had people knocking on my door on some days almost every 15 min for almost every purpose you can think of.   I had them come asking me if I’d heard the good news (about Jesus Christ), do I need a lawn service, maid service, security system, estimate for new windows/siding/roofing/sun room, selling candy/cookies/fruit/magazine subscriptions/cable tv/gift wrapping paper/frozen pizzas, etc.  I even had one guy said he had a truck load of new furniture that had been refused by the store and he’d sell it cheap just to get rid of it.  I work and deal with people (pleasant and not so pleasant) all day long and when I come home, I don’t need an onslaught of marketing pounding on my door.  In the weeks preceding any election, we’d get the political pollsters with the surveys, and the local candidates shaking hands, passing out stickers, asking to put up posters in your front yard.  I’d get the charities, disease of the month club, orphans/widows of police/firemen/soldiers, etc.  I had a few charities who didn’t want a donation, but could I send a flier to 20 of my neighbors (asking them for donations).  (A quick way to deal with any charity is to ask them what percentage of the donation actually goes to the charity - anywhere from 8%-20% is typical, and then tell them to go away and they don’t come back).  If I installed a turn style at the end of the driveway and charged a quarter for everyone who knocked on my door, I’d be a rich woman by now.  I had a ‘No Soliciting" sign right next to my door - no one knew what it meant.  I considered having a sign made up saying:

NO Solicitation

NO Trespassing

Do Not try to sell me things or services.

Do Not talk to me about religion or politics.

I Do Not want any estimates.

I Do Not want to take any surveys.

Violators will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

But then I realized I’d need to print it up in about 6 different languages.  Not answering the door didn’t help.  A few times I answered the door with the dinner burning, the baby crying, the phone ringing - I’d yank open the door and yell "WHAT!?" and they’d back away fairly quickly.   Eventually they all learned not to come to my house.  I discovered that yelling at strangers and telemarketers was great therapy and free.  We now live out in the countryside.  No one comes door to door (too far to walk between houses).  An occasional horse gets out of it’s pasture, and we hear farm animals sometimes.  I love our new neighborhood!

By B Clark on 05/01/2009 8:03 am
Lisa S.
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By Lisa S. on 05/01/2009 8:36 am
B Clark
Thanks!  I’ll remember.  I couldn’t figure out how to keep it from doing that, and it annoys me too.
By B Clark on 05/01/2009 8:40 am
Nancy Pea

i know what you mean B Clark, in our neighborhood i see the solicitors more than the JW’s (and i’m serious about that). when we lived in sacramento, ca on a drug dealer street (i got rid of them too) i became a crazed screaming harridan yelling and screaming at ANYBODY parking in front of my house. i once told some JW’s off and said "MOVE YOUR F___ING CAR YOU MIGHT BE DRUG DEALERS!" ( i actually said more than that and they moved b/c they didn’t know if was gonna come out with a gun or something). the drug dealers even stopped bothering me (they started off standing under my huge shade tree in the front lawn) and even moved away after i got a campaign going with the city to put a stop to them on my street.

one night i came out yelling in my granny gown because of the loud music after 10pm and some idiot yells, "who invited the KKK to move here!" of course i had to be just as foul mouthed and mean as they were. BUT i won. JW’s for some reason have problems with screamers.

my problem here in reno is taco salesmen, ice cream trucks that park outside the door with the music blaring, i even had a comforter salemen come to my door (most of these are hispanic). i don’t mind the corn/snowcone salesman/woman they just toot a horn as they pass thru and you approach THEM. the corn is tasty too! but mostly we are a quiet street and we only get political ppl coming around during an election. but i’m registering independant next one so nobody will come around. not one person came around for my son, just me and my daughter (dems).

By Nancy Pea on 05/01/2009 2:37 pm
c lawre
I used to get a lot of religious types pushing their beliefs. Finally I answered the door when I had one hand on the dog’s collar and I told them if they came on my property again, I would set the dog on them. After that I frequently saw them in the neighborhood, but not at my house.

I did not tell the dog that I was lying about him, he was very gentle, but 45 pounds.

By c lawre on 05/01/2009 8:03 am
Lucy Henry
Some years back my aunt and uncle had a large German Shepherd named Truman. One day my uncle was expecting his brother and when he answered the door with the dog at his side he said "Truman, kill" as a joke, because the dog loved his brother. Cut to a couple very startled JW, who never came back. If they interrupted my sleep I’d resort to the answering the door naked mehtod, too.
By Lucy Henry on 05/01/2009 9:28 pm
nanchan u

Great posts!

LW1: about three years ago, my dog woke me up at about 4:30 in the morning, I looked outside, and there were two kids with backbacks walking up my front yard toward my door.  I started pounding on the window and they took off. I called my police and after a drama that took about 2 hours (including me in the back of a darkened police car having to identify them), the scumbags were taken into custody.  As I sat in the back of the car giving my statement to the police, they noticed that I have a "No Trespassing" sign clearly posted on my tree.

It turns out that because I had watched these little creeps (both with police records a mile long and parents that make more in a year than most people make in a LIFETIME, so so sad) actually IN my yard and the sign was clearly posted, it made it a crime for these kids to trespass on my land.  That was enough to throw them in the slammer.  They had been suspects in a rash of neighborhood robberies, and that "No Tresspassing" sign was the thing that broke up the gang.

My point?  You should probably have a No Trespassing sign up in your yard ANYWAYS! If the JWs do come to your door, I would go with Nancy Pea’s statement of disfellowship.  I dated a guy who was disfellowed and they REALLY cut you off (it’s the threat of that that they use to keep people hooked, apparently, since most JWs belong to the "religion" with their entire families).  If it’s the Mormons, I tell the truth: that my great great grandfather was with the posse that lynched Joseph Smith.  That usually gets them running away from me.

LW2: I feel your pain.  I am very close to my brothers, and have felt their heartbreak as clearly as if it were my own, when they have been hurt by women.  However, as one poster said, you are tied to this woman forever because of the child.  So you are going to have to get over this and move on.

You don’t say how close to her you were before any of this happened.  If you were close, the cheating probably feels like a personal betrayal as well.  If you weren’t close, it would be interesting to know if you approved of her before the wedding.

One suggestion would be to take her out to lunch to talk to her, outside of the family get-together environment, to talk to her about your feelings.  Do this in a public space, and do NOT have a whole group of people with you, maybe you  and a friend (significant other?) and your sister in law and brother.  Get your feelings out there…. just say something like "I know you guys have gotten back together and our working on your marriage and that’s good for you, but I can’t get over being angry at the pain you put my brother through."  Maybe just saying this will clear your anger (it has for me in the past), but it may well get her (and your brother) talking.  The affair is the proverbial Elephant in the Room for your whole family: somebody has to point it out or it will eventually stomp on everybody (including their marriage by the way).

Best of luck… and happy weekend to all!

By nanchan u on 05/01/2009 8:17 am
Cheryl Mitchell
I’d sure like to "hear" from a JW now…lol.
By Cheryl Mitchell on 05/01/2009 8:19 am
Jaeda Laurez

I grew up as a JW and had a blast; so this cult crap doesn’t fly with me- most people are quite nice, and as the above poster said, most folks are just trying to be happy in their faith. And I have to say, the frequency of the visits has more to do with the area of the country you live in. In NYC, you’re going to be visited more frequently than say, someplace like Chino, simply because the area each congregation has available is smaller. But I have to say, for those who really think they’re "doing something" by showing up to the door naked or pretending to be Satan worshippers, you’re not doing much more than giving folks something to talk about at lunch lol. 

By Jaeda Laurez on 05/01/2009 7:56 pm
Paul W

That’s worth it…after all, any minute they spend talking about something other than their twisted religion is one less minute of unwanted proselytization.

By Paul W on 05/04/2009 5:13 pm
Lisa S.
By Lisa S. on 05/01/2009 8:21 am
Lisa S.
What did they do to their system to mess it up this badly?  So many blank posts here today!
By Lisa S. on 05/01/2009 8:39 am
Joanna Vanderyacht
Where I am, we do not have a lot of JW’s, but we do have something worse.  House of Prayer.  They used to follow me around the grocery store, out to my car, they would not leave me alone at gas stations, and they would come to my house.  House of Prayer is a church down here but not one that seems to be on the "Good" side.  I had actually called teh pastor and complained and he actually tried to get me to join! I have told them before at the grocery store that I am a Satanist but that only made them push harder.  One of them followed me out to the car and would not leave me alone until i backed up.  I told them 1 time that I was about to back up in my car and they may wanna move, well they didn’t so I backed up, and they actually moved when they realized my car was moving.  (I did it very slowly so that way I wouldn’t actually hit them.) I could recognize them a mile away.  When they approached me I told them, You’re from the House of Prayer aren’t you, and they asked how i knew and i told them they had the reputation fo a cult all around town.  They tried to correct me and I then would go into a series of questions such as "Are you guys allowed to wear makeup?" Are women allowed to wear pants or jeans, Are men and women and children allowed to sit together at the church? When they said no to these questions I then told them they are a cult because God does not require any of these from anyone.  I told them that God is happy if we just show up to church or even if we stayed home that He was happy if we prayed to Him praising Him and asking Him for His help.   I then told them that at my church you could show up in your pajamas and they didn’t care as long as you attended. They evenetually left me alone after I let them know what God is actually about. lol or at least what I thought He was about. lol.  They used to follow me around the store and in parking lots and stuff like that. 
By Joanna Vanderyacht on 05/01/2009 8:27 am