Dear Margo | 11/06/2009 12:00 am
Dear Margo: He Wants You to What?
He Wants You To What?
Dear Margo: My husband of three years has suddenly become a real pervert. We dated for five years prior to marriage, and he was never this way. First, we are a May (me) December (him) relationship. He was always a gentleman, and there was nothing jaded about him. He is well educated and successful. Our sex life has been incredible. He’s said he could only have dreamed of having this kind of sex life.
In the last year, he has been constantly approaching me about "being with" my close girlfriend, "Edie." It has gotten to the point where all he ever wants to talk about is sex with Edie — and me! I have told him over and over that I am not gay and will not engage in this. I have asked him what happened in the last year to bring all of this on. He says it started with some E.D. issues, which he has since resolved by lowering his cholesterol and exercising. He insists he does not want to be with her or to watch, but wants to listen from upstairs and then get a play by play from me. I have had it and am about to leave him. I really wish his penis would just fall off! I don’t know why he has become so obsessed with sex this last year. He does not believe we need marriage counseling. Any insight from you would be appreciated. — Disheartened in Pennsylvania
Dear Dis: I wonder how deep into December he is… Any sexualization that seemingly comes out of the blue can possibly signal the beginning of early dementia. And I said "possibly." I am not a doctor. I actually don’t think counseling would distract him from the Edie fantasies, but I would suggest a neurological workup. And don’t be shy about telling the doctor about this change. (FYI, so far as I know, a threesome is not the remedy for E.D.) Good luck with the old goat. — Margo, immovably
When Safety Collides with Delicacy
Dear Margo: I work with a great bunch of people at a small organization. Occasionally, a small group of us goes out to lunch or to a meeting off site together. The problem I have is that one of the people in the group is very overweight. We usually ask her if she wouldn’t mind driving (because she has a big car that can more easily accommodate her, as well as a seatbelt extension, and we all have smaller cars). She always has a reason why she can’t drive, but in any car other than her own, she can’t wear the seat belt.
I am extremely nervous having a passenger in my car who is not buckled up, and I know I’m not alone. She said one time a friend got pulled over and she wasn’t wearing her seat belt, so she cried so the officer wouldn’t give the driver a ticket. Not only do I not feel I’d be so lucky, but I would be extremely uncomfortable in that position. Is there a kind way to insist that she do the driving if she wants to go out with the group or go together in one car? Her mileage would be reimbursed by our organization, so there is no cost consideration. I don’t want to make her feel uncomfortable or ashamed, but we don’t know what to do. — Trying To Be Kind
Dear Try: I think you need to put laws, safety and your peace of mind above worry about hurting this woman’s feelings. She knows she is grossly overweight, and you and your colleagues should not be put in an untenable position because of her situation. I would stop being shy and simply tell her that her car is the one that accommodates her best, and then remind her of the mileage reimbursement. There is no reason to tiptoe around this reality. Not one. — Margo, directly
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Letter # 1, it occured to me that "December" might want to or be having a flirtation/affair with Edie. How often is Edie around? Have you ever come home to find she had unexpectedly "just dropped by"? Are you sure she is incapable of betraying your friendship? Think once, then twenty more. Any unexplained glances, conversations that seemed awkward or changed when you came into the room? Maybe Edie is totally unaware of your husband’s new fascination with her. Perhaps she is trying to ignore the elephant in the room, but I’d bet "old goat" has betrayed his attraction to her in a hundred ways, and she knows and has kept silent for your sake, or else she is returning his interest. Could you talk to her and find out?
Letter #1: Margo: "I wonder how deep into December he is…" Lol!
Men, men, men. No matter how well educated and brilliant, and whatever else, when it comes down to it they all have a One Track Mind.
Letter #1…
Please folks, dementia is just like this in the beginning. The little odd rudeness, the forgetting normal decorum, starting to become extremely impatient. Obviously, I don’t know this man, but having dealt with it with my mother, this kind of bizarre request (something he might think to himself but never say out loud normally) looks like a sign that things are not going well in his brain. PLEASE get him into the doctor immediately. Also, don’t take the "oh, he’s fine, he’s just an old man" excuse from your doctor, ask for a neurological work up. There are meds that could save some of his memory and his "being" and give you more time with the man you married.
My mom started about 3 years ago to be just plain rude to people in public, something she would never have done normally. It was LONG before she started to obviously forget things and become impaired. I wish I had been less annoyed with it and more scared for her health.
I know right now you’re annoyed and feeling disrespected, but you married him for a reason, love him enough to see this as a symptom. Best of luck, Kim
Good call on the neurological check up. Male Alzheimer patients are often sexually aggressive and inappropriate.
any sudden personality change, especially in an older person, should be a red flag that a medical check up is needed.
He needs to have his manners checked! Its one thing to ask his wife, and then respect her decision, but whats up with Edie? I kept thinking if my husband made a comment to one of my friends about sex I’d kill him and they would probably not want to be around him ever again. If I was "Edie" we could do lunch but I would be insulted if your husband approached me with his sexual fantasy.
These things don’t usually come up without any warning. Maybe Margo’s right about the doctor, I would watch for any new behaviors and begin a journal to help keep track for a doctor to form an opinion.
It makes no sense he wants you and Edie to go upstairs and he wants to "listen"? Get him some porn, maybe that will satisfy his curiosity, and he’ll get bored!
I’ve been married for over 10 years and if my husband started acting like that I’d want to know where he’s been and who’s he been with or is he hanging out with someone new? This story baffles me, I’d take him to the doctor and bring the whole thing up. Number 1 he may need help number 2 it will embarrass the hell out of him if he’s screwing around and that will stop it.
Good Luck
In regards to LW#2, I’m suprised by how RUDE everyone is. I personally don’t agree with seat-belt laws, but that’s a whole nother thing~I wear mine with an extender simply because the damn car won’t stop dinging at me unless I put it on, and it drives me nuts. But back to what I originally said: if this woman is a friend, then BE a friend and pull her aside, and explain that you understand that maybe she’s self-concious about her weight and having to use the extender, but you can’t in good concious allow her to ride in the car w/o the seatbelt, and if she doesn’t want to drive, then she needs to use the extender in someone else’s car, otherwise they just can’t allow her to ride with them. If it is phrased correctly, and delivered in the proper manner, then it shouldn’t cause offense. Who knows, maybe the woman is just tired of being the one to drive all of the time, and is retaliating…because it doesn’t sound to me like they are being polite about it.
But like I said, I personally don’t agree with the laws regarding seatbelts, but that’s just my opinion
And THIS is why I love Margo! Shoots straight from the hip and holds no punches.
Letter # 2 has just received the exact advice (and in the manner I would suggest as well) that she needed to hear. Grossly obese people know they are grossly obese. Some are embarrassed by it and some could care less. But whenever it gets to the point where their weight is affecting others, as in not being able to fit comfortably in a car, or next to you on a plane, or movie theater or restaurant booth or table, we have a right to say something. And the letter writer is 100% correct to be concerned about getting a ticket. Police officers should take this law seriously. Too many people dismiss it as a non issue, that is until they hear of someone they know who died because they were splattered all over the highway.
And letter #1 - And here we go. Yet again another letter from a woman dealing with a dishonest man and missing the point that, that is the main issue at hand. On what planet would anyone believe that the desire to see your wife engage in Gay sex was brought on by E.D.? Come on! He can’t even be honest about something like that. Would it have been to hard to simply say, "honey I don’t know why I am so turned on by that fantasy, but I am and I am obsessed with it"
That would have been much more emotionally honest to say and believe. But it’s his lie, his excuse that gets me. If I were in her shoes I would have called him on it immediately. The part about him being obsessed with sex in general however is something only she can quantify. Sex is important to a relationship and lots of sex (in my opinion) is a good thing. So I don’t quite understand her complaint in that regard. But then again we all have varying levels of what is the norm in a relationship.
It just amazes me how many men and women are emotionally dishonest with one another. It’s really sad.
Agreed. The big issue here is that he has asked twice to do something that is way out of her interest range. The first time she said "no" should have been enough. "No" means no at our house, whether it is about buying a flat screen TV, bringing home another cat, or engaging in funky intimate behavior!
It really disgusts me that his attitude suggests zero respect for the feelings of either woman. Where the hell did he get the idea that two women friends are capable of just up and deciding to have sex??? I don’t think most people go about having sex with friends just to please their spouse’s libido.
We have to assume that he really wasn’t like that before,because she was upfront about that; after 8-ish years of what the author describes as a good marriage, I’d think that he ought to know better. Doesn’t he know his wife well enough to know better than to make that particular request? It’s not like he just met her yesterday.
In addition, if the man feels the need to spice it up a bit, there are a hell of a lot of levels they could try between plain ol’ vanilla and bringing another human being into the bedroom. Geez, talk about from zero to sixty.
If I were her, I’d spell it out: "Honey, if you ever, ever suggest or bring anything like that up again….that will indeed be the end of our marriage. Think long and hard before you answer me, because there is only one right answer here."
I am a bit apalled that her reaction to him the first time wasn’t strong enough to put the hammer down on his foolishness. Damn—-I’d have made sure that subject didn’t come up again if it were me in her shoes.
I wonder how deep into December he is…
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Quit possible but then older men tend to want to finally pursue their younger fantasies and of course in the May-December relationships the fantasies tend to come out in September.