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Dear Margo | 05/06/2009 11:00 pm

Dear Margo: Looking for Greener Grass

A woman is in love with two men — married to one of them, sleeping with the other … Margo Howard’s bright advice
Margo Howard

Looking for Greener Grass

Dear Margo: I’m in love with two men — married to one of them, "Jack." The other man, "Roger," I’ve known for years longer. Roger and I had a physical thing prior to my meeting Jack. At the time, I asked him to make it official and he turned me down. I’ve always had feelings for him, and they weren’t resolved when I met and married Jack. I even told Jack about it. I love my husband, and I know he loves me, but in the last year and a half we’ve started drifting apart. (We were married in 2006.) I’ve suggested counseling a few times, but he says we don’t have the money (no insurance) or the time. He says we can work it out on our own. We try, things are great for a few days, but then they slide back.
I see Roger around a lot, and he has professed his love for me numerous times. Recently, I started an affair with him, and I don’t know if he keeps coming into the picture because we were supposed to be together, or if it’s to test the strength of my bond with Jack. I don’t want to make a decision I’ll regret, but I know I’ll have to make a move one way or the other soon. Each man fulfills needs the other doesn’t. I’m sure this is how polygamist sects get started. I have no idea what to do. — In a Predicament

Dear In: Your "drift" certainly wasted no time in making an appearance, your marriage having taken place not quite three years ago. As for Roger, I don’t think he "keeps coming into the picture" because of any karmic forces; nor do I think the love gods sent him to test the strength of your bond with your husband. As I understand the Book of Mormon (well, OK, what I know from watching "Big Love"), polygamy was not developed so that different spouses could make up the perfect person. Life is choices and decisions. I suggest that you clear the playing field (i.e., end it with Roger) and concentrate on making things better with the guy you walked down the aisle with. Right now you are playing with fire. — Margo, dedicatedly

When Looking Is Just Looking

Dear Margo: Is looking at naughty videos on the Internet cheating? I recently caught my boyfriend viewing videos of women on a well-known user-posted video site. These were not pornographic, just scantily clad females performing stripteases, etc. I was very hurt and upset, but he promised he will not do this again, and I believe him. I forgave him and we’re going on with our relationship, but I’m torn about the situation because I know that men are going to look at other women, even when they’re in a relationship, and that it can be "just looking." The fact that he was actively searching for other women to view, however, bothers me still. Other than this incident, he’s never given me any reason to doubt that he loves me. (And we have an incredibly good sex life.) — Distressed in Tennessee

Dear Dis: You are right that (straight) men are going to look at other women. In a perfect world this happens when a man is out in public (and even then it’s sometimes not appreciated), but the Internet has made it easy for men to look at other women when they sit down at their computers. I don’t think your situation belongs on danger.com, however. As you say, the site was not pornographic; it was amateurs posting sexy videos, but nothing lewd. And … your fella vowed he wouldn’t do it anymore, plus there seems to be no sign of addiction. Give him a pass, stop stewing and continue with your incredibly good sex life. — Margo, attitudinally
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Jane M

Predicament, my dear: if after less than 3 years you find yourself in love with another fellow, either you married the wrong man, or you are the wrong woman.

It is unfair in the extreme to continue in this situation. Decide what you want and make a plan to go after it. Either decide you want a committed relationship with your lawfully wedded husband and take the necessary steps to become the right woman to make that work, or else take your cue from an old Pal Simon song and "make a new plan, Stan, and get yourself free." But don’t waste any time about it. This house of cards can’t stand for long. Don’t ask me how I know this.

By Jane M on 05/06/2009 11:53 pm
Linda Myers
Nothing like getting married with a few slats on the bridge missing. I am not sure any man could ever satisfy her need for attention, or is she willing to be committed to the attention of one. For now it is these two, but there will always be a plan B to her life, where if she decides to bail, it will end with a whoa me and another choice of play. Both men would be smart to let her go. She needs the counseling in life, and there is always government outlets for those that can not pay, but until she sees herself as the problem, and not her husband as being a player, even that would be futile.
By Linda Myers on 05/07/2009 12:02 am
Tana Goodwin
I have to agree. Counseling is a must. I, somehow, get the feeling that this woman is not quite grown up. This all sounds like teenage stuff to me.
By Tana Goodwin on 05/07/2009 10:14 am
Jane M
Oops! That’s PAUL Simon.
By Jane M on 05/07/2009 12:04 am
Laura Ward

About the two men dilemma, the problem is the woman. I’ve been married three times. I’m 54 years old now and I know she’s the one who doesn’t know what she wants. It’s not about them. What does she do? No matter what the guy does or says, neither guy is right for her or she would have known by now and not contacted the column. Unfortunately for her.

About internet porno, it depends on how the man’s mind is and how he takes porn. And we never know until the fantasy turns. For some men it remains fantasy. For others it’s a fantasy to those he loves and completely differently with strangers, Ted Bundy and others) horrible. Read Ann Rule serial killer books. Serial killers lead normal lives. She also interesting spouse killing books. When I was married, my husband was concerned.

By Laura Ward on 05/07/2009 12:09 am
Barbara Byrnes

"At the time, I asked him to make it official and he turned me down." Sounds like "making it official" was/is the key to…. well, to her heart, so to speak. 

BF1 who won’t commit loses GF to BF2, who does promise to commit.  GF marries BF2, who becomes her husband on the grounds of his commitment.  GF-wife commited to a wedding but now can’t commit to monogamy or a marriage and goes back to having sex with BF1, who wouldn’t commit to her. 

BF1 gets his and still doesn’t have to commit, GF-wife doesn’t have to either, BF2-husband-AKA-cuckold doesn’t have a choice.  There’s some sort of cosmic irony here, but it escapes me at the moment.  Maybe it will play out if and/or when she leaves the object of her wedding for a guy who still may not commit to her.  

By Barbara Byrnes on 05/07/2009 3:31 am
Susan S

Barbara,

   Good post, I think. "Predicament" is human but yeah, needs to realize the designs that boyfriend 1 has. Might not seem like designs, but they are. If boyfriend 1 truly wants to now get married and Predicament wants that, then that can work, but not (in my opinion without Predicament going to therapy ON HER OWN to sort through this stuff)—I’m wondering if BF1 is married. If so, for sure, turn around and walk away. The idealizing that’s going on is really strong on Predicament’s part. Understandable, but yeah, therapy for her alone. Only she can decide what she wants to do but needs to have a clear head about it and understand her part in the dynamics. 

By Susan S on 05/07/2009 4:48 pm
Dawn Smith
LW! sounds like a case of wanting your cake and eating it too.  Did you marry your husband on the rebound? That would be one scenario of why this other creep is still in your thoughts and now in your panties. You are a distrustful person now. You have broken your marriage vow. I suggest you cut your husband lose so that he can find someone worthy of him and you can go on your merry way and sow your oats. BTW….. your old/new BF will dump you eventually because he also sees you for what you are. He’s probably laughing himself to sleep thanking the stars above that HE never committed to you.
By Dawn Smith on 05/07/2009 4:04 am
Dawn Smith
BTW………..The "I LOVE YOU" line is the oldest one in the book !!
By Dawn Smith on 05/07/2009 4:07 am
Trina O

In a Predicament: follow Margo’s advice. Get therapy if you need outside help.

 

By Trina O on 05/07/2009 5:23 am
Allison In Wonderland

The grass is never greener on the other side, its just a different shade of green.

By Allison In Wonderland on 05/07/2009 6:30 am
Shannon T

In reference to LW1: It never ceases to amaze that people’s affections can be turned around so easily. You say you are in love with someone and then you go and marry someone else before giving yourself time to get over that other person. Then you let that other person back into your life and start an affair. Where in there is the love for the husband? Did it not occur to either her or her husband that they should not have gotten married in the first place if her heart was not all the way in it? Or maybe the hubby thought that he could eventually win her over totally.

Love should not be interchangable (in my view it isn’t, which is why I’m still single. I refuse to settle for "maybes" and "what ifs").It sounds like this woman barely loves herself. If she did, she wouldn’t be playing with fire while knowing full well that it is going to blow up in her face.

Margo is straight on. This woman needs counseling, with or without her husband. And she needs it now. There are plenty of free and low-cost counseling services out there. All you need to do is find one near you. Heck, even talking to a pastor at their church (if they have a church they go to) can be of some help.

By Shannon T on 05/07/2009 6:39 am
E .
Dear In a Predicament - I suggest that you follow Margo’s advice ASAP.  While you’ve been counting daisy petals "I choose Jack - no wait I choose Roger" it seems your husband is becoming less and less invested in marriage to you I’ve suggested counseling a few times, but he says we don’t have the money (no insurance) or the time.  You might think that you’ve parked your husband on a shelf through your infidelity and struggle with the big decision - but your husband is a flesh and blood M-A-N with needs, desires and dreams of his own.  Oh yeah and Roger (perfect name) likely just wants to "roger" you.
By E . on 05/07/2009 7:06 am
E .

Dear Distressed in Tennessee,

how did you find out that your boyfriend is looking at the sexy videos on the internet?  Did you just come across it/them or were you playing sleuth and digging for dirt?  I think that it matters because while we all know that men are going to look at other women it is cruel/abusive to do it overtly particularly when they know that their partner is upset by it.  Regardless of what popular culture says is okay we are not animals and normal people do have control over their behavior - yes, even men surfing the internet.  Whatever our culture allows for right now the videos upset you and it might be that this will not change for you.  Try not to become obsessed with making sure that your boyfriend is not looking - you don’t want to lower yourself and become that sort of woman.  It is okay to calmly and clearly explain how him looking at videos makes you feel and to expect that he will honor you by not acting in a way that upsets you.  You should know that there are plenty of women who don’t like their man to be looking at sexy videos of other women - you are not being demanding.  

By E . on 05/07/2009 7:31 am
K Coldiron
LW1: It sounds to me like neither man is really the one you want. It also sounds like you are paying the price for settling. My advice would be to keep on looking for the real green grass - not a man from whom you’re going to drift apart in three years, and not a man who only wants what’s out of his reach. I wish you luck. LW2: What’s the big deal? I have found that looking at sexy videos or porn has virtually nothing to do with how desirable the man finds YOU, in person, in real life. Nor with how committed he is to you. (Unless the porn interferes with his life in a noticeable way.) I wouldn’t worry.
By K Coldiron on 05/07/2009 7:56 am