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Dear Margo | 05/21/2009 11:00 pm

Dear Margo: Religious Fanatics on the Lunatic Fringe

How can I recover my daughter and keep her from hell? Margo Howard’s bright advice …
Margo Howard

Religious Fanatics on the Lunatic Fringe

Dear Margo: Our daughter started college a year ago, and we’ve noticed during her visits home that she’s not the sweet, innocent girl we sent away for higher learning. We raised her with strong Christian beliefs, but lately she’s saying that she’s joined an atheist club on campus and is questioning everything we taught her. Now my husband refuses to let her in the house and is threatening to turn her in to the FBI. I’ve tried to cure our daughter and reconcile with her, but nothing seems to work. I’ve prayed over her at night while she sleeps, enlisted friends in a phone prayer tree and even spoken to my priest about the possibility of an exorcism. I’m at my wits’ end. How can I recover my daughter and keep her from hell? — God-fearing

Dear God: Whoa, dear. While I am sympathetic to anyone’s devotion to their religion, you need to realize that your daughter is a sentient being with the right to reject your religious views if she so chooses. Your husband is pathetically misguided if he thinks he can call the FBI to report the "crime" of your daughter joining an atheists club. Ditto for the exorcism. This young woman is not possessed, demonic or doing weird things; she is merely thinking and questioning the religion she grew up with. I would encourage you to understand that all people, your daughter included, have the right to think for themselves, particularly about something as meaningful as religion. As for hell, well, she appears willing to take her chances. — Margo, contemplatively

When the In-Laws Think They’re All Cordon Bleu Graduates

Dear Margo: I am devastated. My in-laws, without saying so, think I’m a lousy cook. Each time I invite them to dinner, my husband’s aunt and mother decide they have to come over and "help" me. At first I found this a lovely gesture, until I realized their "help" meant them taking over. I put two and two together and came to the conclusion that I must be a lousy cook. I asked my family to be honest, and they insisted that my cooking was very good. I decided to make dinner ahead of time. My in-laws barely touched their food. Some said they weren’t too hungry, others had "eaten before," all said it was "just wonderful." I decided to conduct an experiment. My sister-in-law reluctantly agreed to help me. I cooked a meal at my house, went to her house with the food an hour before the guests were to arrive, and it looked like she had cooked the dinner. The guests had seconds and thirds and raved about how delicious everything was. Now what should I do? — "Burnt" in Philly

Dear Burn: I think this is hysterical, and you should, too. For whatever reason, the in-laws want to think you can’t cook. Maybe they are nuts. As close as I can come to helping you understand what is going on is to remember an episode from my junior year in high school. I had been taking Latin for three years, and our class had to write one composition per semester (in Latin). All my submissions earned a C. I became curious about whether our teacher had simply decided I was a C student (no blonde jokes, please), so I asked Roy Sonderling, the reigning genius in the class, if he would write two papers and let one of them be mine. He said fine … and, in fact, he said he’d give me the better one. Well, I handed it in and it came back with a C. (His, of course, got an A.) So I would take it in stride, my dear. For whatever reason, they’ve put you in the "can’t cook" slot. I recommend that, in the future, whenever the in-laws come to your house, let them "help" and just think of them as caterers. Then relax and take it easy. — Margo, attitudinally
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Rain in Minneapolis
I’ve heard of a prayer chain, but not a "phone prayer tree".  If I had three friends, I would try it.
By Rain in Minneapolis on 05/22/2009 12:28 am
Elle Troy
Hehehe!  I like your definition.
By Elle Troy on 05/22/2009 6:01 am
Andrea Brandon
A whole lotta’ people need to be exorcised, I guess. :-)
By Andrea Brandon on 05/21/2009 11:45 pm
Nancy Pea
lol andrea. i guess so. b/c there are more of us like the daughter than the parents. geez!
By Nancy Pea on 05/22/2009 12:49 am
Nancy Pea

OMG, LW#1 sounds like my deceased step mother (my blood auntie). when i was in my early teens (12 or 13) i started having problems with feelings like everybody around me that i loved was going to die. i was also very very scared of death itself. i just knew i was going to be all alone very soon. i was to new to knowing that i was experiencing ESP. once my mother figured it out, she took me to the elders (we were jehovah’s witnesses) and ask them to help me not be demonized anymore. essentially an exorcism but they didn’t call it that. 

the elder (who had known me from the age of 3) took me aside and asked me what was up and i admitted everything. he kindly told me that he knew i wasn’t demonized, but that my mother had it in her head that i was. so maybe i shouldn’t bring it up to her anymore. this was in the 70’s and i know the poor guy just didn’t know what to do. 6mos later my real mother (whom i thought was my auntie) and my grandmother both died within a month of each other. then i was all alone with my step mother with whom i never had really bonded with. i turned 14yrs old, 3mos later. 

my uncle died when i was 17 and my step mother when i was 18. because of her fanatic ways about the religion i left it after she died. fully after my second child was born and i separated from my husband who was also of that faith but abusive. 

i went through being an atheist for a while. but as time went on, i realized that i needed god as much as everybody else and joined my cousins church. but it just never seemed right to me. then i found buddhism. after that most everything fell into place and i was able to find god again. i just use a different prophet. so yes, it does sound like this person is giving an over the top letter. but ppl like the mother and father DO exist and do make it a living hell for those that are just trying to question their beliefs. 

the best thing they can do is keep praying for their daughter and hope she comes back around. but if she doesn’t (and she has every right not to) then they should still love her and care about her just as they always have. because the fastest way to get somebody to leave for good, is to push it down their throat. 

LW#2: margo, she asked how to get around this problem, not to just put up with it. she has already tried that. my suggestion is to get that sister in law to go to bat for her. tell her relatives how she feels. my bff says "a closed mouth don’t get fed". if she keeps holding her hurt in, it will just get worse. soon she will resent them and start to hate them. i say she comes out about what her SIL did and tell them how she feels. her wacko relatives are pretty stupid and until they get the point across she should tell her husband that ALL the dinners are at their house from now on!

By Nancy Pea on 05/22/2009 1:16 am
Amanda C

oh nancy, your story is so sad. i wish you had access to people who would have accepted your feelings and worked with you to sort them out. i completely believe that people have another sense that allows them insight into the future or into the personalities of other people - for your trusted religious leaders to push you away like that is so sad.

i am so glad you felt able to use your god-given intuition and brain and heart to find a path that satisfies you. there are many roads to Dallas, but they all lead to the same place if you know what i mean ;)

 but ppl like the mother and father DO exist and do make it a living hell for those that are just trying to question their beliefs. 

i know several. it is terribly scary that they inflict that kind of pressure on their children.

the fastest way to get somebody to leave for good, is to push it down their throat. 

completely agreed.

 

By Amanda C on 05/22/2009 3:10 pm
Nancy Pea

actually aside from stuff like that my childhood was ok. i got teased a lot because my step mother made me dress like a quaker, but i still managed to have friends and my grammy let me get away with stuff when she was at work. one of the few things that did happen nice from my first marriage was the fact that he believed in my ESP. he has some himself. too bad i could only see that we were going to get together and no see how abusive, cheap and bad in bed he was. lol!

for years i thought i could only prophecy death so i hated it. then one day i was at a friends house and her brother in law was over and i sensed something was wrong. he had epilepsy (i didn’t know this before hand) and i told her i was worried. so she told her bf and later they ended up taking him to the hospital. he was fine. but i think i saw a grand seizure coming. i cannot always tell what the bad feeling is about and it seemed to work even more before the hysterectomy, so hormones might help it along. but i still get it, like when my daughter was first seeing her first bf i knew when he was going to call and such. also had a bf where i knew when he was coming by and when he had been by but i wasn’t home. 

so it’s not an exact science. but it helps!!!

By Nancy Pea on 05/23/2009 12:19 am
Purple Hartz
Nancy, I’m catching up on my "Dear Margo" articles. This one really struck me. I was raised strict Pentecostal (holy roller) growing up. I was told if I disagreed with any view on their religion that I was either possessed or oppressed by the devil. If I were to tell anyone of my experiences they would think I was talking about a Steven King movie (except my mother never tried to stab me) but my experiences were very similar. I married at a young age had two beautiful daughters and after 8 yrs of marriage to a man who followed the principals of this church. I divorced him and after many years of soul searching went on my own path of enlightenment. I am now very happily married to a wonderful man and a practicing Catholic. To which I thought my mother was going to have a coronary because she thinks Catholocism is an occult, but she managed to survive. What is amazing to me is the number of responses thinking this is a hoax ?? I would like to tell everyone this is not uncommon!!! Especially, if you live in the Bible belt. I think everyone has religion, religion is what you believe in. Whether it’s God, athiest, buddhism or whatever. But you have to find what’s right for you. Nancy I hope you have peace and much happiness.
By Purple Hartz on 06/04/2009 2:28 pm
Nancy Pea
not that anybody will probably see your response. but yes, things are better. my mother died when i was 18, i divorced my abusive, cheap and horrible in bed husband and raised my two kids on my own. i’m now a grand mother with very very loving, gracious and understanding kids. glad things turned out good for you too!!!
By Nancy Pea on 06/04/2009 9:44 pm
Selina C
Perhaps "Burnt"’s in-laws question her cooking hygienes. That’d be one logical reason why I wouldn’t eat food no matter how good it was, and especially why I’d try to "help" the cook to ensure the food isn’t contaminated.
By Selina C on 05/22/2009 1:19 am
Lauri Anderson
Selina, that was my first thought also.  Still, it would have been wiser for the in-laws to admit that when asked, or to subtly explain things as they were fixing the meal themselves, as in "well now that I’ve been handling this raw meat, I need to wash my hands to avoid cross contamination" or "silly me, I almost started handling this food without washing my hands, who knows what kind of bacteria I’d have been spreading" or "we’d better sanitize the counters, first, who knows what those cats are walking on when you’re not in the room".  Of course, in only hearing her side, we have no idea what was said during their helpful but taking-over attempts.  Also could the reluctant sister-in-law have pulled a bait and switch?
By Lauri Anderson on 05/22/2009 3:11 am
Cool One
I wondered about that. Are the roaches running around, dog hair on every surface, counters that haven’t been washed in awhile? Have they watched her licking spoons and then putting them back in the food that is cooking? It’s not the taste, so it has to be something that is grossing them out.
By Cool One on 05/22/2009 6:55 am
peacesme me
Unsanitary cooking (or living) conditions of LW2 were the first thing that came to my mind when I read her letter.  My mother-in-law is the best MIL any woman could ever wish for, but she has a lousy hygiene habit.  She pets her cat or dog, and then touches food without washing her hands; she does not wash vegetables; instead just wipes them out with napkins; and serves them raw (yikes); she places the trash can on the kitchen counter to collect trash (she is old, so bending too long is hard on her so I can understand that), and just wipes the surface with the same towel that she wipes her (clean and dirty) hands with… No soaps!!!  Before we got married, husband would have dinner with his parents every Sunday; so we continue with that tradition.  In the beginning, it was difficult for me knowing how unsanitary the food could be (and I am known for my "germophobia").  I didn’t want to offend her by not eating her food, so I made sure to eat only cooked food (at least I wouldn’t get sick that way…  Amazingly though, my husband and her husband seem to have thrived by her cooking as both are looking just 2/3 of their real age :o)).  And then I offerred to alternate with her to host the Sunday dinner.  She happily accepted the offer as it turns out she hates to cook.  I find it more managable to only have to eat food that is sanitarily questionable just once every two weeks…
By peacesme me on 05/22/2009 1:22 pm
Dawn Smith

LW1: Geez-louise !! I’d be completely creeped out if my mother was praying over my sleeping body and my dad was going to call the FBI because I questioned my faith. Your daughter has left the cocoon and is experiencing new people, new ideas and  learning about who she is. Let her grow up. Good solid morals don’t disappear over night. Frankly it’s the religious zealots who scare me more than someone not walking the straight path to God. God chooses who goes to heaven or hell, not you !  You might want to brush up on Matthew 7:2.

LW2: You can come and cook for me anyday !! My sisters cooked when I was growing up and I was the ‘baker’. To this day they still think I can’t cook ( I’m a great cook) and I let them think that. That way they cook all the big meals at family gatherings and I get to eat it all. Works for me.

By Dawn Smith on 05/22/2009 5:46 am
Pdr de

I disagree with Margo’s advice to the young woman whose in-laws have decided she can’t cook.  This situation is not funny and needs to be dealt with immediately and her husband should be standing beside her.  When she took the meal over to her sister-in-law’s house and everyone was raving about the excellence of the meal, that was when she should have said, "It’s very heartwarming to hear your enthusiastic reactions - you’ll be surprised to learn that I cooked this meal, not so-and-so!"  I’d love to have seen the expression on their faces. 

Her in-laws are incredibly rude, insulting and mean - if they can’t behave decently, she shouldn’t invite them for meals any more.  Pretending to have eaten already when you’ve been invited to someone’s home for a meal despicable.  The situation can’t go on as it is - she will continue to be more and more hurt and resentful and she can’t do that for years and years.  Shame on them for the enjoyment they obviously derive from hurting her and putting her down.

By Pdr de on 05/22/2009 6:15 am