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Dear Margo | 05/21/2009 11:00 pm

Dear Margo: Religious Fanatics on the Lunatic Fringe

How can I recover my daughter and keep her from hell? Margo Howard’s bright advice …
Margo Howard

Religious Fanatics on the Lunatic Fringe

Dear Margo: Our daughter started college a year ago, and we’ve noticed during her visits home that she’s not the sweet, innocent girl we sent away for higher learning. We raised her with strong Christian beliefs, but lately she’s saying that she’s joined an atheist club on campus and is questioning everything we taught her. Now my husband refuses to let her in the house and is threatening to turn her in to the FBI. I’ve tried to cure our daughter and reconcile with her, but nothing seems to work. I’ve prayed over her at night while she sleeps, enlisted friends in a phone prayer tree and even spoken to my priest about the possibility of an exorcism. I’m at my wits’ end. How can I recover my daughter and keep her from hell? — God-fearing

Dear God: Whoa, dear. While I am sympathetic to anyone’s devotion to their religion, you need to realize that your daughter is a sentient being with the right to reject your religious views if she so chooses. Your husband is pathetically misguided if he thinks he can call the FBI to report the "crime" of your daughter joining an atheists club. Ditto for the exorcism. This young woman is not possessed, demonic or doing weird things; she is merely thinking and questioning the religion she grew up with. I would encourage you to understand that all people, your daughter included, have the right to think for themselves, particularly about something as meaningful as religion. As for hell, well, she appears willing to take her chances. — Margo, contemplatively

When the In-Laws Think They’re All Cordon Bleu Graduates

Dear Margo: I am devastated. My in-laws, without saying so, think I’m a lousy cook. Each time I invite them to dinner, my husband’s aunt and mother decide they have to come over and "help" me. At first I found this a lovely gesture, until I realized their "help" meant them taking over. I put two and two together and came to the conclusion that I must be a lousy cook. I asked my family to be honest, and they insisted that my cooking was very good. I decided to make dinner ahead of time. My in-laws barely touched their food. Some said they weren’t too hungry, others had "eaten before," all said it was "just wonderful." I decided to conduct an experiment. My sister-in-law reluctantly agreed to help me. I cooked a meal at my house, went to her house with the food an hour before the guests were to arrive, and it looked like she had cooked the dinner. The guests had seconds and thirds and raved about how delicious everything was. Now what should I do? — "Burnt" in Philly

Dear Burn: I think this is hysterical, and you should, too. For whatever reason, the in-laws want to think you can’t cook. Maybe they are nuts. As close as I can come to helping you understand what is going on is to remember an episode from my junior year in high school. I had been taking Latin for three years, and our class had to write one composition per semester (in Latin). All my submissions earned a C. I became curious about whether our teacher had simply decided I was a C student (no blonde jokes, please), so I asked Roy Sonderling, the reigning genius in the class, if he would write two papers and let one of them be mine. He said fine … and, in fact, he said he’d give me the better one. Well, I handed it in and it came back with a C. (His, of course, got an A.) So I would take it in stride, my dear. For whatever reason, they’ve put you in the "can’t cook" slot. I recommend that, in the future, whenever the in-laws come to your house, let them "help" and just think of them as caterers. Then relax and take it easy. — Margo, attitudinally
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Paula Pow
If "God-fearing" is the Christian she professes to be, she needs to remember what a lot of us fellow Christians so often forget:  Turn her problem(s) over to the Lord!!!!  She needs to:  1)  Release her young-adult daughter into God’s keeping and trust Him to look after her.  The mother’s days of protecting her daughter from outside influences and trying to force her to do things are over, and the sooner she realizes that and stops making herself crazy over things she can’t control, the better off she will be.  By all means she should keep praying for her daughter and asking others to do so, but "praying for" does not involve force or manipulation.  2)  Understand that questioning the value, beliefs, etc., with which she was raised is an entirely NORMAL thing for her daughter to be doing at this stage of her life!  Her daughter’s recent and current actions don’t mean that she has forever forsaken her upbrining.  It is entirely likely that this young woman will at some point return to the Christian faith with her beliefs much stronger for having questioned and thought things through and explored other options!  God NEVER told us not to use our brains or think for ourselves, and the word of God is plenty strong enough to stand up to our human doubts and questions!
By Paula Pow on 05/22/2009 1:00 pm
Paula Pow

Sorry about the "typos" - the word "value" should have an S on the end, and "upbrining" obviously should have been "upbringing."  I think my computer was slow and wasn’t actually recording all the keystrokes I made!

I also meant to add that, sadly, as far as this young woman’s father is concerned, the daughter IS legally an adult (I assume she is 18 or 19, since she’s been in college for a year), and if the father wants to kick her out of the house or refuse to allow her inside, he does have that right.  "God-fearing" would be smart to remind her husband that they love their daughter and they both need to ask themselves if alienating her is what they think God wants them to do.  If, in their prayers, they are accustomed to LISTENING to God, they need to pray about this matter, and if they truly listen, I believe God will help them see what’s right as far as how to treat their daughter.

Calling the FBI will get the father NOWHERE unless he believes his daughter is involved with a terrorist group or another threat to national security!  The FBI will believe he is a nut case and blow him off.

By Paula Pow on 05/22/2009 1:23 pm
S G

Margo I just watched Jesus Camp. OMG it is so scary that the right wing fringe of any religion are such zealots. That poor girl. No wonder she has questions. Who can blame her. As for the girl who her in laws think she can’t cook what she and her sister in law did is hillarious.

By S G on 05/22/2009 1:33 pm
Kristy B

SG,

I watched Jesus Camp yesterday.  As a Christian, I wouldn’t want my child to go to a camp like that.  I think what scared me the most was the part showing the anti-abortion speaker.  It was just too much for me!

By Kristy B on 05/25/2009 11:10 pm
Rachel M
As to the cooking I would love someone to cook for me. Hopefully they will do the dishes too. Put your feet up and relax.
By Rachel M on 05/22/2009 2:18 pm
L P

I’m sure there are fanatics like the parent in letter #1.  But I still think the letter writer is a ringer.

This opinion is colored by one of my own epistolary efforts.  While an undergraduate at a university which had a tradition of doing so, a roommate and I wrote a fake letter to Margo’s mother involving claims of wild orgies at our famously blueblood institution.  It was never published unfortunately.

 Margo sounds as though she was once the victim of a Catholic education. 

By L P on 05/22/2009 2:30 pm
Kahlan Amnell

I know there have been remarks made to the legitimacy of Letter #1.  From my experiences it could be legit or it could be fake.  I’ve known religious people who can’t conceive of ever questioning their faith and believe any sort of reaching out to learn about others will send people to hell.  I also know of militant atheists who would go so far as to pull a stunt like this (or worse) and think nothing of it, having just discovered a friend of mine has been under fire as a target for a full year (after returning to religious beliefs after having been an atheist) by a Swede who has had American atheists trying to "break" him and reconvert or try to make him commit suicide for leaving the atheist fold.  How do I know for sure?  Because the Swede finally admitted he couldn’t break him (mainly because he didn’t know he had friends who stood by him) and later finding out on a forum where the discussion between him and my friend had been posted and people were congratulating the Swede. 

As to my take on Letter #1, continue the way you are and you will permanently drive her away forever.  Learn to accept she’s at college and exposed to many new things in life, including other religious beliefs and that she is not you, she is her own person and has the right to belief any way she chooses.  

By Kahlan Amnell on 05/22/2009 2:51 pm
Contemplative  Chanteuse
Dear "God-fearing"

If you have raised your daughter up in the way she should go, your job now that she is an adult is to love her and be a godly example to her in your own life. You cannot control her. Your efforts - especially your husband’s efforts - at control show a lack of faith in God. What develops from now on in your daughter’s relationship with God is between her and God.

He is more powerful than you, your husband, your priest, your daughter’s friends, atheism or your daughter herself. Trust Him and trust your daughter.

Your job is not to make her choose or tell her what to believe. Your job, now that she is grown, is to support her development of her own beliefs. If you want those beliefs to be in God, showing her what God is doing for you in your own life is the only influence you still have that will hold any significance to her.

It’s hard to let children go, but that is exactly what God calls parents to do: to raise them with nurture and admonition and then to give them back to Him. Put her in His hands. You cannot make happen what you wish. Trying to force her to have your beliefs without question produces characteristics and "fruits" in you that are ungodly. Faced with your ungodliness, you will turn her further from God.

Pray like crazy. Pour your own heart out to God. Ask Him to change you into the sort of parents she will want to emulate. Those are your responsibilities as well as treating her with the same love, respect and free will that God gives you. As scary as it is, trust her to the very God you want her to serve. He gives the increase.

May His peace be upon you. Suggested reading:  parable of the prodigal son "Tristan’s Gap" by Nancy Rue
By Contemplative Chanteuse on 05/22/2009 2:56 pm
Frau Quink

The daughter in ltr.# 1 should run and not look back.

There is no medicine to cure fanatics, sadly, parents included……

By Frau Quink on 05/22/2009 3:39 pm
Dorothy K

May I inject a little levity into this very serious discussion?

Letter 2:  My mother was known as a very good cook. One day my husband and I were having dinner at my parents home when my mother, in the kitchen asked me to make the fried chicken. "Yours is so much better than mine" she said.  Naturally, i agreed.

When dinner was served my husband remarked, "Dorothy, why can’t you make chicken like your mother? This is so delicious!"  My mom and I roared with laughter.

You see, people get perceptions in their heads that remain whether warranted or not. In my husband’s head my mother was a good cook-ergo her chicken had to be better than mine! Her in-laws may have had one poor meal in her home and stamped her as a bad cook. Or, as one correspondent pointed out, they may be like Marie, Debra’s mother-in-law on "Everyone Loves Raymond".

Don’t sweat the small stuff honey. Laugh and let them do the cooking!

By Dorothy K on 05/22/2009 4:11 pm
harmony deal

Holy Cow!  I would love to hear that call to the FBI on God-Fearing’s part!  This just goes too far, but unfortunately sounds like a lot of families from my church(Baptist).  Personally, I’ve always found the fastest way to drive a girl from the family is to draw a hard line with her,  but perhaps that is for the better here.

I never grew up with religion, but my husband’s family has always gone to the same church, and sometimes it can seem pretty ridiculous to me.  (No movies, no dancing, your not saved unless you’re in church every time the door opens, blah blah blah)  Everything is taken  too seriously.  I can understand how some things should be, but come on! 

They are probably the main reason she joined an athiest club to begin with!  What she needs is space from her family and their beliefs, so she can decide her own.  That is a common theme running in many religions where parents attempt to control everything about their child, hoping to save them from future problems.  Instead, it just creates new ones, as they rebel and can’t run fast enough to the exact opposite of what they’ve been taught(forced to believe).

The only thing possessing your daughter is a good dose of common sense and questioning her beliefs.  Congratulations to her!  Everyone has that right, and parents should encourage chidren to question everything about religion and test the "fruits"  to see if that religion is genuine of not so whacked out cult.

By harmony deal on 05/22/2009 6:35 pm
Jean B
God-fearing and her husband are the one’s who need help, not their daughter! Reporting her to the FBI? I mean, come on! How out of touch can two people be? 

I think "Burnt" in Philly should tell her in-laws they have been busted. There is no way anyone should have to put up with that nonsense and because they are her in-laws it is presumed they will be a part of her life for a very long time. And after telling them they are busted she should inform them that since they prefer to not eat her cooking, all family meals will be taken at their house from now on. They get to eat food they know they like and Burnt doesn’t have the mess at her house. It’s a win-win and it would serve the in-laws right for being so rude.

By Jean B on 05/22/2009 9:48 pm
Jennifer Mc

why on earth would a "holy roller" English teacher ban books written by one of the premier Christian authors of the 20th Century? His most famous work came about as a result of his attempt to prove that God didn’t exist, and he couldn’t make that work in his head.

that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. (please understand, commenter that I am not disbelieving your comment, I’m making a comment on the fact that the teacher obviously had absolutely NO idea whom she was banning from her classroom.)

C.S. Lewis wrote Mere Christianity and many other Christian books. The Chronicles of Narnia were written as an introduction of the story of Jesus (as well as some mythology and such for good measure, which might be the reason for the teacher’s banning?) for children. you’d think a "holy roller" would be excited to have something like that allowed in his or her classroom.

By Jennifer Mc on 05/23/2009 1:04 am
Tanya Villers
I remember going through my atheist stage.  It lasted for about 5 years, through the last of my high school years and early twenties.  Then I moved to agnostic.  Finally though, I found my way back to where I’m comfortable in my religion and attend service regularly.  This mom needs to calm down and let her kid find her own way.  She’s just pushing her farther and farther away with that kind of reaction.
By Tanya Villers on 05/23/2009 2:15 am
Alexandra Dilkes
I feel the first letter IS probably fake:). As for the second letter, I have the same situation with my husband’s family. I adore them, and they love me too, but for some reason they will not eat at my cooking or baking. Same thing, picking at their food, saying they already ate and then going overboard about how great it was, as if they’re humoring me. I’ve never had any complaints about my cooking from friends or family my whole life long, so I’ve always assumed this was just some weirdness of theirs. The last straw was when my SIL and her husband started bringing a bag of food WITH THEM to family events held at my house. That was it. This year we’re taking the kids to the ocean for their birthday instead of having a party and I’m not inviting them over for meals. I love ‘em, but in this economy money’s too tight to waste food on people who won’t eat it!
By Alexandra Dilkes on 05/23/2009 9:57 am