Dear Margo | 04/23/2009 11:00 pm
Dear Margo: Leaving Well Enough Alone
Leaving Well Enough Alone
I am 25 and have been in a relationship with 26-year-old "Randolph" for two years. We, of course, have had some emotional ups and downs, but overall it’s wonderful. Our sex life has also been incredible. However, about six months ago while playing fantasy games, we pretended we were in other relationships and cheating together, and this was a big turn on for me. Now, whenever we are intimate, I always have to picture him having sex with someone else in order to climax. I keep this secret from him because it is slightly worrisome to me. I often picture him with women I have small jealousies over, and this makes me climax much faster than I ever have been able to before. Should I try a threesome? (Though, the thought of him actually being with someone else does not elicit as positive a response!) Is this fantasy more normal than I think it is? —- STUCK IN THE GUTTER
DEAR STUCK: Forget the threesome, hon, and stick with the fantasies. Yours, by the way, is one of the golden oldies. The dynamic would be different with a threesome, and they can be dangerous to the health of a marriage. Not only do the participants have to be pretty jaded, but all parties have to be in favor of this. And since you’ve written to me about it, I will be the fourth, and I vote no. —- MARGO, PROTECTIVELY
How To Be a Destructive Father
DEAR MARGO: My husband and I have been married for 10 years. Seven years ago I was blessed, after many miscarriages, to have a son. My husband has three adult children from a previous marriage. The problem is, he has completely destroyed his relationship with two of his children and is on the way to obliterating his relationship with our 7-year-old. My husband believes that total humiliation is the best way to deal with children. He gets in our son’s face and screams at him about how worthless and stupid he is. I want to step in, but that causes a whole bunch of other problems. Because of his actions we have a grandchild we never get to see, which, of course, has the ex-wife gloating. I hate to see my son be humiliated on a daily basis, and trust me, nothing is ever good enough or done correctly. I don’t know what to do. —- DISTRAUGHT
DEAR DIS: I don’t know how you have tried to deal with this in the past, but you must get this angry, misguided man into therapy. Is he so thick that he makes no connection between his punishing behavior and two estranged children? To have a parent tell a young child he is worthless and stupid, in my book, is grounds for a separation unless he gets professional help — and I’m not even sure anything can change his behavior. You cannot sacrifice your son’s mental health and emotional well-being on the altar of this insecure man’s twisted ideas about child-rearing. This is just a guess, but I infer that you are under his thumb, as well, and the whole situation sounds like a hellish way to live. If he refuses therapy, then you have some serious decisions to make. Not to put too fine a point on it, but I hope you make it "either-or," with the choices being either a shrink or a lawyer. Good luck. —- MARGO, UNWAVERINGLY
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Letter #2, I would love to know what this "whole bunch of other problems" is that you are referring to that happens anytime you try to stand up for your child and put a stop to this verbal abuse. Is it hitting? kicking? or just that the verbal abuse gets directed at you then?
I can complete understand the ex gloating over the fact that he is not allowed to see his grandson. It may appear petty to you, but understand that she was once in your position with three kids that she had to protect and she seems to have a better understanding than you do of what type of man he really is. Maybe what you consider gloating is for her, actual relief and satisfaction that he will not be able to have that kind of affect on the next generation as well. In which case, I am with her all the way.
This is a man that, as he is, should not be allowed around children because he is so completely clueless as to the damage he is inflicting. People have had their lives destroyed by parents acting out like this.
One last thing you might want to consider. Victims of abuse will not only come to hate the abuser, but the people who knew about the abuse and simply stood by doing nothing to stop it (or protect them), even if it was just because they didn’t know how or were afraid of making things worse. And rightfully so. And that is what you are doing by not getting your son out of there. Are you really willing to lose your son too? Because if he estranges himself from his father, he will estrange himself from you as well. Especially should you remain married to him.
He is your son. He is uncapable of protecting and defending himself or even taking proper care of himself at the moment. And you are failing in your duty to teach him how to do those things.
Stand up and do what is right for HIM! Take your son and leave until your husband can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he will cease and desist with these attacks.
Letter #2-so many wise readers on here have told their own stories-if the mother of this poor child doesn’t protect her innocent child she deserves a lot of the blame. If her son manages to survive this sick, freak of a father (and with the self-esteem issues that are already there, I doubt it) he will dump his so-called father and her. If the mother doesn’t leave she is condemning her son to a lifetime of self-doubt, and failure. It will take many years of therapy for this poor baby to recover, if anyone can totally recover from their parent treating them in this horrible manner. I’m sure when she leaves and takes her son with her that his older children will be glad to testify against daddy dearest, and if they get a judge with half a brain the only visitation the ‘father’ will get will be supervised-and I bet dad won’t even show up for that either.
LW1: Fantasies are just that. Keep it that way.
LW2: I’m so angry at your letter that I could SCREAM at you !!! What kind of mother are you that you would let some SOB treat your child that way? Do you realize what you are teaching him by not protecting him? You are teaching him that his daddy is right and he is a useless human being, so useless that his mother won’t even protect him. Your husband should be glad he isn’t married to me. I would have beat him senseless in his sleep the first time he verbally abused my child. Then I would have headed for the nearest womens’ shelter if I couldn’t do it on my own. Therapy isn’t going to fix this piece of shit. Get out before your son turns to drugs or kills himself or decides to kill the both of you. I don’t care if you’re being abused yourself as it sounds like you are and you’d rather have your poor innocent child take the brunt of it instead of you. Women like you really piss me off !! Get a fricking backbone !!
PS: I have written my opinion above, but I would like to say something about some of the other posts. Having been abused myself, I don’t think that calling this woman "mental", "an idiot" or "bitch" is going to help her to leave this guy.
When women are in the type of relationship that she describes in her letter, they already have such a deflated sense of self worth that action is almost rendered impossible. Notice how she doesn’t say anything about how he treats HER except with a cryptic "I want to step in, but that causes a whole bunch of other problems."? I don’t know this woman, or if she is listening, but to me, I think she wrote the letter detailing the situation with her son, because to write about herself is something she doesn’t believe she deserves.
I was lucky: those of you who know me here know I have NO PROBLEM sticking up for myself and my beliefs (thanks, Mom and Dad!). And my abuser didn’t hurt my child (he was actually a good father, just a lousy husband). But there are many many women out there who don’t have that type of confidence. This woman needs our support, not our anger (let’s put that where it belongs, on the scuzzbucket she is married to).
Distraught: my prayers are with you, and get the HELL OUT OF THERE!
Well put. Everyone on here who has called her a name is just contributing to the abuse she has already endured. And the sad thing is, these names are probably milder than the ones she hears from her husband — and herself — on a daily basis.
Yes, she should definitely get her son and herself out of there, but I know from experience that this is easier said than done. The first step may be to contact a battered women’s shelter. And even if it is *only* verbal abuse, she is still being abused. (I have always said that verbal abuse is worse than physical because without the bruises, no one believes it is happening.)
Thank you, Sharon. It is VERY hard to leave a situation as she describes: we have no idea of the economic situation for her family, her friend/family situation (the husband may have succeeded in alienating her family as well and they may not want to help her, same with friends), what her training is for work outside the home if she’s a stay home mom. All of these are factors that she is thinking about in her head most likely as reasons to stay with him (it certainly was for me, and for most women I know who’ve gone through it). I believe that the posters here feel like she needs a jolt, like a reality check, and that’s why they are using the names/rough terms. That’s understandable.. unless as you point out, you have become desensitized to language like that from daily barrages of abuse. Then, just hearing the term from an outside source CONFIRMS what the abuser is telling you.
She needs to get out, and then to show her son, BY EXAMPLE, that he too can build himself up. I hope she takes the creep for all he’s worth. (and thanks for the reminder to call my lawyers!)
Seven years is a LIFESTYLE CHOICE. She is CHOOSING TO SUBJECT HERSELF AND HER SON TO ABUSE. And gee, it’s funny how when you were subject to abuse you go right out of there per your own words:
"When I look back, I knew I would leave my (whatever the hell he is at this point) husband when he beat me up one night for praying to Jesus (no, I’m not making this up). I grabbed our daughter and my laptop (Bessie was an earlier cousin of my current darling Toshiba) and walked barefoot out of the apartment. Even then, I knew that my focus would be on that child…"
Have NEVER yet in my entire life met or encountered a Republican that isn’t a hypocrite.
Seven years does not make this a lifestyle choice. A lifestyle choice is someone being into S&M and wanting to be dominated, NOT someone being in an abusive relationship! No one asks to be abused and no one continues to let it happen because they like it!
Abusers are a sneaky breed. They come up behind you slowly and make you think they are a godsend, and then, they slowly erode away everything you are and were until there is nothing left but what they have "given you". So much so that they have you completely convinced that you are nothing without them. And it is while doing this that they blindside you out of nowhere and the abuse starts, and they convince you that it is your own fault and that you are wholly to blame.
Getting out of an abusive relationship is not as easy as you may think. The abusee is FRIGHTENED!!!! Abusers don’t let go that easily. They stalk and KILL their preylike wild animals! By the time things get this bad, the abusee has noone left in his/her life because all friends and family have long since been driven away.
I once thought I would never end up in an abusive relationship because I knew all the warning signs. Then I found out the fatal flaw in the warning signs! It only works when they all appear at the same time. When they come on slowly, cautiously, even the most hardened person can fall prey to them before realizing something is wrong. And by the time that realization comes, it is too late and that person is trapped. I lucked out. I managed to make it out, but not before I hit complete rock bottom.And even then, it was hard to do!
I think it is great that you can sit there, on your high horse, and proclaim that abuse victims "choose" to be abused! The fact that you think this makes you no better than the abusers! Do not deign to understand what an abuse victim goes through, or the difficulty they have in breaking away until you have been there yourself!