Dear Margo | 03/11/2009 11:00 pm
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DEAR MARGO: I’ve been dating my boyfriend for eight months. Overall, things have been great. There are times we get into arguments and don’t agree, but things generally get resolved quickly. Except for one: About two months ago I answered his phone when his old girlfriend called while he was in the shower. I said he would call back and that was the end of it. My curiosity, though, got the best of me, and I went through his texts after the phone call. What I found was heartbreaking. He was basically having phone sex through text messages with his ex-girlfriend. The messages were very explicit. I confronted him and told him that in order for us to continue our relationship he would have to stop all contact with this woman. He agreed and I forgave him. Today I found out from friends that he is still talking to her. I confronted him again. He said it was true, and that I had no right to tell him with whom he could and could not speak. He says I am controlling and worry too much that he will cheat on me. I think I have every right to tell him not to speak to this woman after what I saw on his phone. What do you think? —- TOO CONTROLLING?
DEAR TOO: I think you should tell him that you’ve decided he should, indeed, continue to sex text with this girl and, furthermore, that you think it would be a good idea for him to have real sex with her, as well, because you are now out of the picture. Any guy who is caught red-handed, as it were, and then has the nerve to tell you you’re too concerned he will cheat is an idiot — or he thinks you are. You might even let him know the romance is over via text message. I think that would be a nice touch —- MARGO, HUFFILY
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DEAR MARGO: For the past four years my daughter, "Miranda," has lived with her boyfriend, "Sam." My husband and I have tried to be supportive of this arrangement, but we disapprove of couples living together before marriage. When they mentioned they were considering marriage, we immediately offered to pay for the ceremony. Now the engagement is official and Miranda has started sending me her ideas for the wedding. I hate her plans. She wants to get married in Las Vegas, as she and Sam vacation there frequently. Miranda says they have been saving reward points at their favorite casino so they can use the points to help pay for hotel rooms and meals. She also offered to pay for the rehearsal dinner and a day trip to the Grand Canyon so we can get to know our new in-laws. Her plans make some sense, as Sam’s parents and sister live in different states and it’s very easy to find direct flights to Las Vegas from almost anywhere. The ceremony itself would be held at an outdoor location outside the city.
I can tell Miranda is trying to make this as non-Vegas-like as possible, but I still disapprove of her ideas. I want her to get married in our church with all our family present. She only wants to invite parents, siblings and two very close friends to the Vegas ceremony. I think in our haste to see her married my husband and I made an offer we hadn’t thought through. I don’t want to pay for a destination wedding that will exclude most of our friends and family. Is it too late to back out of my offer to pay? —- TRADITIONAL MIDWEST MOM
DEAR TRAD: I do think it’s too late, and I also am a great believer in letting a couple have their wedding just the way they want it. Often, destination weddings are designed for the purpose of not replicating the mob scene from "Quo Vadis." Also, the attempt to make it non-Vegas-like shows some effort to have it be in good taste. I mean, I saw no mention of an Elvis impersonator officiating at a drive-through wedding chapel. I suggest that when the young people return to your town you have a big reception-party for all your friends and family, which should make everyone happy. —- MARGO, HONORABLY
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I agree with the advice for #1.
For #2, some families do not consider a couple "really" married unless they are married in their church denomination. So the Vegas wedding, regardless of how tasteful it may be, just wouldn’t cut it for them.
Dear Too Controlling?
What Margo Said.
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Dear Traditional Midwest Mom,
What Margo said and …
please go, release your worries and force yourself to "live it up" at the wedding and reception. Demonstrate for your daughter just how much you love her, how excited and pleased you are for her that she is venturing into this new stage of her life with the man she loves, and just how much you are looking forward to being a positive force in her new life. Go with an open heart and mind, surround your daughter with unconditional love and make her wedding day as sweet and wonderful as it can be.
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Great advice Margo! I esp. like the text message break-up, since he feels so strongly about that mode of communication.
I eloped…so we ended up having a reception in his hometown and one reception in mine.
Debbie,
I love the idea of having receptions in each home town after eloping! How did it work for you? Were most of the people OK with it? I agree with Margo that the Mother of the Bride needs to suck it up & realize that this is what her daughter wants & it is her wedding. It is so easy to decide that your kids want/need what you want for them - sometimes you have to step back & give them what they want.
What a great story! I can also attest that having a party for the family at large later on can be quite nice. My partner and I got married in city hall in Canada last year. Granted, the destination wedding was more out of having limited options. ;-) But everyone who was able to join us did (my dad, his family and a friend of ours) and we had a very nice backyard party that summer with extended family and friends. The end result still made for a perfect celebration, and a good time was had by all.
#1…yes Yes YES. This. I went through that as well (cyber, and with several other women, not just one ex) and the best thing I have ever done is leave that man. He’s now miserable as all his other skanks found out about the way he acts as well.
#2…Wow…seriously? You have been pressuring her to get married but now that’s not enough? If you offered to pay for it, you should, and be happy that she’s doing it at all. I don’t even plan on inviting my mother to my wedding. I’m eloping, but will have a few people there, and I only want supportive people there (hence not inviting my mother). Were I in her shoes, I’d let you know that I don’t need you to pay for it, nor do I need your negativity. What she has planned sounds perfectly lovely and it sounds like to me you just want to control her even now that she is obviously an adult and can make her own decision. Be happy for her for goodness’ sake. She has been with this man for four years and they are happy enough to get married, then be happy that she’s already managed to get past the 3 years that most "real" marriages last.
For Midwest Mom, I just wanted to offer some reassurance. Your daughter’s idea really does sound lovely! And I’ve had several friends who had wedding ceremonies with just their few nearest and dearest, and then did a reception after their honeymoon for all the relatives and friends. It turned out great. They said the wedding was really moving for them because the bonds with those they were sharing it with were so very close. It was really intimate and beautiful. And then when they had the reception later, they could enjoy it a lot more because they didn’t have the wedding-day nerves and could focus on the fun and the guests rather than the heavier emotions of the ceremony.
So I think Margo’s advice will reward you a lot more than you’re imagining right now. Congratulations to your daughter and son-in-law-to-be!
Good advice Margo.
ESP. #2. Your daughter doesn’t want to follow your traditions. Once she is married and on her own (well, when she turned legally an adult), you lost any say on how she runs her life including how she runs her wedding. Let it go and be glad she hasn’t excluded you completely. Besides, her plans sound fine to me, and obviously she’s happy with them.
Wise words on both fronts today, Margo!
TC should find a man who values her. The recommendation of ‘dump via text’ is perfect here - this guy deserves no more time or consideration.
TMM needs to let go and have faith in the parenting she gave to her daughter. It sounds like Miranda and Sam are making plans for a very nice wedding - and marriage was what TMM had hoped for all along, right?
I think I would have to agree that Margo, you gave some really good advice. #1, take it from someone who has been in your shoes, once he starts to tell you its none of your business who he talks to, he has already checked out of your relationship. HIm and his ex obviously broke up for a reason so why continue to text her or contact her? You may love him but Love yourself more.
#2-be happy for your daughter and let her have HER wedding day, her way! The less stress on her the better. I just got married this past October & trust me it was hard to hear other people give advice on the day you have envisioned your whole life.