Dear Margo | 10/01/2009 12:00 am
Dear Margo: Seriously Playing Games
Seriously Playing Games
Dear Margo: My wife and I regularly play an online video game. Since I work full time and she doesn’t, she plays more than I do. A few weeks ago, she asked me if I had a problem with her spending a lot of time playing the game with an online friend, who happens to be male. I said that as long as he was "just a friend," it was no problem. Over the past few weeks, however, I noticed behavioral changes in her that made me think something was amiss, so I read her game logs on her computer to assure myself that their relationship was "just friends."
Long story short, I found enough in the logs to become very upset. I confronted her, and she admitted that she is in love with the online guy! She says she also loves me, is confused and doesn’t want to hurt either one of us. I love her, and the thought of her leaving makes me ill, but I want her to be happy. I also want her to hurry and make a decision because the stress of not knowing if she will leave me for him is killing me. But she doesn’t want to be rushed into making a decision. — Nice Guy Who Doesn’t Want To Finish Last
Dear Nice: I am having trouble with this. Your wife is playing an online game and thinks she’s fallen in love with Online Gamer Guy? Sheesh, it doesn’t take much, does it? The Internet being, well, the Internet, for all she knows, her game-boy could be an elderly lady who writes romance novels. No offense, but your mate doesn’t sound as though she’s wrapped real tight. Either that, or there’s not much going on in your marriage. It just seems addled to me that anyone could think she’s fallen in love with an unseen partner playing a computer game … and she’s telling you to hang on until she decides. I think if this happened to me, I would begin a new game called "Let’s Separate." But in your case, I would suggest you both stop with the video games and instead go to a couples counselor to see what is wrong and what can be salvaged. — Margo, amazedly
Father Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
Dear Margo: My parents are both in their late 80s and are beginning to have some major health issues. So far so good, but it has got me thinking about what to do for my father’s funeral. Dad has always been very critical and harsh with his children, grandchildren and, now, great-grandchildren. None of us has ever been able to live up to his expectations, even though we are law-abiding, honest citizens with college degrees, good jobs and houses with the mortgages paid off. Nothing has ever been good enough for Dad. He is currently not speaking to two of his three children due to his "disappointment" in them.
He is prominent in politics and holds a statewide appointed position. He goes out of his way to remember the birthdays of everyone he works with. He knows the names of all their children, asks about them and shows great interest in the lives and feelings of his colleagues. People either love him for the caring, sensitive man he projects professionally or avoid him (and therefore my mother) socially because he dominates every conversation. How will I deal with a funeral full of glowing testimonials knowing the misery he has caused my mother and his family over the past 65 years? — Dreading the Inevitable
Dear Dread: You will go through the motions. I suspect you will not be the only "mourner" to ever sit in a pew and secretly wonder who they are talking about. The disparity between his public and private selves is regrettable, but your insight will see you through. — Margo, perceptively
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Dear Margo: Your answer to #1 was hilarious––that "not wrapped real tight" said it all. Game boy infatuation makes one wonder whether reality just takes long vacations or it wasn’t there from the get go.
#2 Papa sounds like a phony poop. It also sounds as if his offspring might be a little too eager to pull that plug on their children’s Grandpa.
Boy Margo, you do get a lot of these "online romance" letters don’t you?
I find it amazing that people can develop love (or hate) for someone online they have never met. Someone who is nothing more than an avatar. And like you said, she has no idea "who" this person really is. It could be a pimply faced teen or as you said an elderly woman living out a fantasy for a book idea. It really does speak to a person’s sanity if they can develop emotions over someone they have never meant.
As for letter #2, this really makes me sad. We all have memories from childhood that on some level affect our lives as adults. I know MANY men and women whose personalities are formed by issues they had growing up. What I find sad are those who are in their 50’s, 60’s, 70’s and beyond that go to their graves with unresolved issues. There is some pathology at play with letter # 2’s father in regard to connecting with those he loves. It comes from somewhere, it didn’t just happen. The necessity to be loved by the masses, but not care how he is received by those closest to him is telling.
But, your response to her was dead on. It is what it is, and she can’t control it. She can only accept it for what it is when that time comes. She doesn’t say whether she has ever sat down with him to share her concerns (as I know I would have) if she hasn’t, I would suggest she do that. I’m a big believer in not leaving anything unsaid in life to those we care for.
Belinda Joy, I know where you’re coming from when you wonder if she has tried to talk to her father, but I know from my own experience that some people just can’t be reasoned with. I don’t know how many people have tried to "fix" things between me and my father, only to report back to me that he said something awful about me. My ex-SIL was molested by her own father from the time she was 12 until she was able to get away at 16. The day she tried to reason with my father, he informed her that what happened with her own father was "partly" her own fault.
She called me, screaming. "I hate your father!" I told her to get in line. So does everybody else.
The last thing I heard, from another ex SIL, that my father said about me, made me so angry that I called my brother and told him if that old man didn’t quit lying about me, I was going to sue him for slander, and I have the money and the lawyers to do it.
Since money is his God, he must have decided to zip it.
Jodi, I’m sorry to hear you and your father have a fractured relationship. I would give anything, and I do mean anything, to have my father alive again. I loved him so much. However as I am sure you recall from other responses Margo has made to various readers, we both believe just because you share the DNA of a family doesn’t mean you have to love your family. Sometimes not only is it a good thing, but it is a necessity to sever people from our lives.
Please forgive me Jodi, but anyone that would blame a child for her father molesting her is demented. For your father to tell a grown woman she was partly to blame for the atrocities she survived is disgusting. That is someone I know I would have turned my back on.
Belinda,
Even the ladies at my church, who were trying to tell me I should "make amends" with my father were shocked when I told them about my SIL. One of them exploded: "He should be strung up by his toes!" After that, I think they understood where I was coming from a little better. My earliest memories, when I was about 2 1/2, are of that monster beating me. So no, I won’t be at his funeral.
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….who were trying to tell me I should "make amends"
Yeah, there are always people who pipe up to advise you to make amends with those who’ve harmed you.
The only thing I can figure is that those type of people either got suckered into making amends with someone who hurt them terribly (and now they want others to do it too, to validate their choice), OR those folks have never had anyone really hurt them, therefore they don’t have a clue what you have had to do to get past the pain.
The one thing that rings true in most of those cases: the people advising you to make peace don’t know the depths of the transgression. Remember that.
I’d also point out that many of those peace-makers are convinced that not making up with someone automatically results in bitterness, hatred, and grief setting up camp in your soul. Those people don’t realize that booting someone from your life actully dissipates the very grief, bitterness, and hatred that was there before! True freedom often comes with kicking someone to the curb, not making up with them.
It seems his wife was asking for his permission to have this inappropriate relationship with her online friend. He should have seen the red flag when she asked if he minded. I think counseling could help and also getting up and getting OUT away from the internet. It can become an addiction just like any other addictive substance or behavior. Some people don’t realize they are addicted. She needs to try to return to the real world, find a job and get away from the computer.
Ltr #1
Wow.. all is not lost. it is just a stern wake up call. The woman is in love with a fantasy, and idea… not a real person. This is just telling you that the marriage is falling apart and needs to be repaired. Think about it, any sane person knows that when you try to make your fantasy world a reality, it is a huge disapointment. Now if both of you put 100% in to repairing your marriage though counceling, you will be successfull and probably better off then you ever were. But, if one of you doesn’t not put in 100% - eh.. start looking for a lawyer.
Ltr#2
Bring an i-pod and listen to really soothing music… hopefully it will distract you from all the verbal BS that will be flowing that day.
But in all seriousness, I am really sorry you are going through this….It is one of those challenges that will prove your character to yourself and your conscience. I know you will do the right thing.
and dont forget your ipod.
LW#1 - It’s something you see all too often in the gamer community. And with honesty to those that painted all gamers as geeks with no lives, well, it’s a pretty big group to paint with one brush stroke. I’ve played with father/son teams, doctors, lawyers, nurses, other parents, and even high school and college "kids" from different backgrounds and countries even so it’s like comparing apples to freight trains in some cases!
To this woman, she needs a wake up call… but doing anything like cutting her accounts or computer access honestly could have some ugly backlash. I’d personally install a key logger on her computer and save that information for divorce court. Chances are if she’s "in love" with the other guy it’s beyond just in game chat and/or ventrilo/teamspeak and into emails, webcams and other forms of out of game communication.
She’s getting everything she needs and wants and hurting the one person she should care for above her game. It’s just going to continue until the dream is shattered with that one person when the grass doesn’t turn out to be greener. The damage will be there and how much time on eggshells should he have to spend before those old wounds are opened up if and when it happens again. Gaming addiction is an ugly monster to deal with and I wish him the best in finding the right path to take. I know letting go could be hard but being a door mat shouldn’t be an option.
To those questioning "falling" for someone online… I’d be curious if this guy is a guild mate or just a random gamer. My guild I’ve known some of them for over 10 years and we’ve gone from one game to another and stuck together. I’ve met a lot of them in person for conventions and they honestly are part of my family. We’re there for joys with new children being born, or weddings and even graduations of some of the kids that we’ve been watching grow up for years…. and likewise there for support when someone falls ill or loses another family member.
To LW#2 - Can only wish you peace getting through that day when it comes.
I am in utter shock LW#1 - No I dont play online games but I do blog and Im sorry but I don see falling in love with someone you have never seen. Yes there are plenty of people who have met online, fell in love and are now married but somewhere before that, they had to meet and really get to know one another.
Margo this is another topic I happen to agree with you about….Wow, were on a roll!
Letter #1. I find it interesting that many of us don’t remember the power of the written word. Has everyone forgotten love letters. When my wife and I were courting, during the work day we would communicate by e-mail. Most of the e-mails were love letters or love notes. We drove each other crazy with anticipation, but it was exciting and we couldn’t wait to get in to each others arms. We were also good friends and we had known each other for six years before our romance began and the computer phase of our commincation began. We still occasionally send love notes to each other via e-mail. That being said, I in no way condone the actions of the gamers romance here because she at least is in a committed relationship.
I play duplicate bridge on-line and I have one regular partner that I play with every Tuesday after work. She is a good player and we enjoying the game and the competition. I play often with women, but the key here is having good boundaries. Maybe that is what the gamers need to learn.
I really liked what someone said about last weeks letter, that any communication you have on line should be able to be read by your spouse.
Letter #2. I am guessing I am about the same age as the letter writer. I am a baby boomer and there are a few things I have learned about my generation and my parents generation. There were two unspoken rules in the house I grew up in. The first was do as I say not as I do. There are some implications to the 1st rule such as you are to young to know or do that and you are not good enough because you don’t do what I say. The second rule was what goes on inside the house is not talked about or displayed outside the house. In other words we might have appeared to be the model family outside the house, but inside the house there could be some abusive behavior going on. I mean this as more of an insights that I have gained. Take what you like and leave the rest. I understand where you are coming from.
I really liked what someone said about last weeks letter, that any communication you have on line should be able to be read by your spouse.
Spot on, Tom! Good one, and one I abide by personally. I don’t write or type anything that I’d be embarrassed or ashamed to have my spouse read over my shoulder. It keeps the conversation exactly where it needs to be! We’ve been married for over a decade and we follwed my parents’ good advice: stay away from situations that could turn troublesome, and you’ll never have to worry about it.
Way back when in the mid 90’s, when AOL was just becoming popular, a girl friend of mine met a guy online. It was so shocking because she had been (on the outside at least) totally devoted to her family. She up and moved to the other side of the country, left her daughter, job, and husband. I spoke with her a couple of times and she wasn’t happy. LW #1’s wife needs to do a reality check. HOpefully, the will go into counselling and figure it out before she takes off to be with, as Walter puts it, Gameboy.
I don’t understand letter number 2. Funerals are never for the dead, they’re for the living. And in this case, if he was a jerk, then don’t go! and be sure to tell each and every single person what a domineering jerk he was. Why are people so afraid to tell the truth and maintain some sort of fake image?
As for letter number one, I am reminded of the scene in Joy Luck Club when the mother visits the mousy daughter with the overbearing husband and demands she "know her own worth". Him waiting on his wife for an answer is just so very sad.