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Question of the Day | 05/27/2009 11:00 pm

Do you identify with a certain heritage, culture or religion? If so, is there a particular tradition that you practice?

Whoopi Goldberg, Marlo Thomas and the wOw women weigh in – and also tell us about the cultures they admire from afar. Join the conversation …
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Joan Juliet Buck

Joan Juliet Buck | 05/27/2009 11:00 pm

Joan Juliet Buck on the new Jewish 'American Girl' Doll ... and Eating Bugs

That’s a big, very personal question. I found myself oddly moved by the fact that "American Girl" has added a Jewish immigrant girl to their line of dolls.

She’s called Rebecca Rubin and lived in a tenement on the Lower East Side in 1914 with her Russian immigrant parents. I wondered why this resonated and remembered that as a child in France, I had no one to identify with in terms of heritage. The few times my father alluded to being Jewish I was flummoxed — what could that mean? Everyone at school was French with lots of French brothers and sisters. My dolls were mainly hairy German hand puppets, and in the books I read, everyone was French or a pirate. The character I bonded with was the little Peruvian boy in the Tintin book The Temple of the Sun — he wore a red cap which gave me some room to hope that he was actually a girl in disguise.

I’m afraid I can identify with most heritages, cultures and religions I come across, which makes me either a cultural and religious whore, or a new-age patsy. I like most religions and traditions, apart from cannibalism, Meso-American human sacrifice, Dragon lore, witchcraft, female circumcision, Sundance rituals and Morris Dancing. One day at Sarah Lawrence,  the entire  anthropology class assured the professor that we had no prejudice against any culture whatsoever. We asserted loudly that we could understand all of them, and valued the differences between peoples of this earth. The professor opened her next nine AM class by handing out tins of fried ants, dried grasshoppers and canned maggots. The ants and grasshoppers were, I believe, African, and the maggots — grubs — were Australian. "So none of you feel any revulsion toward any aspect of any human cultures?" she asked. We shook our heads, eight privileged girls logy from last night’s pot and Haagen-Dazs, standing firm in our beliefs. We thought the intriguing, rather cute insects and worms were some kind of Show and Tell. I looked down at the tinned maggots in front of me. Of course, I remember thinking, in the desert, you have to eat whatever protein you can find, even if it’s living on a dead tree. She handed me a can opener. "OK Joan, open your tin and put whatever is in there in your mouth," she said.

I think that’s what called making you eat your words.

Whoopi Goldberg

Whoopi Goldberg | 05/27/2009 11:00 pm

Whoopi Goldberg Admires Everyone

No, I practice everything, I admire everyone.
Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 05/27/2009 11:00 pm

Joan Ganz Cooney Dislikes Any Religion That Treats Women as 'Others'

I was brought up a Roman Catholic and, while I left the Church years ago, I can still be moved at high Mass with beautiful music, and I have a sort of sentimental feeling about some of the rituals. On the other hand, I am repelled by its repressive nature and its departure from the simple but profound teachings of Jesus. My father was an agnostic Jew and I certainly feel that part of me when I read about the annihilation of the Jews under Hitler and when I encounter anti-Semitism. But I don’t feel any cultural or religious attachment. I’ve come to dislike all religions that treat women as "other," which most orthodox religions do. 
Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 05/27/2009 11:00 pm

Liz Smith Is a 'Liberal Yellow-Dog Democrat'

I definitely identify with the long list of fantastic old white men who have discovered, created and fomented so much of what we call Western Civilization. I worship Shakespeare, Dante and anything recommended to me by Harold Bloom in his book The Western Canon.

I identify also with the Judeo-Christian heritage even though I have become increasingly secular in my spiritual life. This doesn’t mean I am a fascist, a conservative or a racist. I want to give everybody a break. Politically, I am a liberal, yellow-dog Democrat. But my true intellectual interests lean toward the Greek, Roman inheritance and what happened in the Renaissance after the Middle Ages. I am not terribly modern though I observed the ’60s/’70s and understood the atmosphere of rebellion. American movies were my greatest role model, mentor, moralist and education as a young person.

And, hey, I admire many civilizations and religions so long as they are not oppressing, torturing, killing or censoring people. I enjoy learning about all the varieties of history. I feel I’m open-minded about everything except maybe domestic politics in the United States.

Man’s ongoing unceasing inhumanity to man foments the biggest question in my life about why we are here and what we are doing here.

Marlo Thomas

Marlo Thomas | 05/27/2009 11:00 pm

Marlo Thomas's Fascination With Tradition

I grew up with both Italian and Lebanese grandmothers who gave their grandchildren a rich legacy of their backgrounds with delicious food and sweet family rituals. When I married my Irishman, I picked up a few more. I find the traditions that are passed on by different cultures ever fascinating. It’s one of the features that makes traveling so interesting.
Jane Wagner

Jane Wagner | 05/29/2009 7:50 am

Jane Wagner, a Southern Gothic Girl

I feel closer to the Southern Gothic tradition more than anything; although, I guess that’s more of a mental condition than a tradition.

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kermie b

I grew up Catholic and therefore stopped going to church when I was 12.  My older sister taught me the slick way to sneak out during communion.  (Sit in the last pew and bolt!!! when no one is looking.)  I never would have thought of that on my own; I was a "good" girl.  After we left, she used me as her lookout when she shoplifted pink lipsticks from the local drugstore.  As soon as I figured her out (I was a tad slow), I stopped hanging out with her.  I would have been better off in church.

To this day, she thinks I didn’t know she was stealing.   I hope she is reading this.

By kermie b on 05/28/2009 1:33 am
EKA -
You make me laugh !!! "I grew up Catholic and therefore stopped going to church when I was 12." …. all my Protestant friends ( who I was not allowed to play with until High School ) are much better church go-ers than  me , what’s up with that !
By EKA - on 05/28/2009 10:18 am
Maizie James

I agree with much of what Joan Juliet Buck wrote.  In particular:

"I’m afraid I can identify with most heritages, cultures and religions I come across, which makes me either a cultural and religious whore, or a new-age patsy. I like most religions and traditions, apart from cannibalism, Meso-American human sacrifice, Dragon lore, witchcraft, female circumcision, Sundance rituals and Morris Dancing."

The only ‘caveat’ is that while I respect and appreciate most religions and cultures, I long ago abandoned participating in any ‘structured’ or ‘sacred’ [religious] rituals - such as communion, for example.  Yet, I enjoy many of the Catholic and Presbyterian ‘holy’ celebrations, with all the pomp, glorious decor, and choral music.  Also, I enjoy the tranquillity of meditation and chants, which are common in many of the [Eastern] Buddhist Temple ceremonies.

By Maizie James on 05/28/2009 2:52 am
Omie from Texas

I grew up in the 1940s in a small town of about 12,000 to15,000 in central Texas.  My culture comes from the Germans who settled New Braunfels Texas in 1845 - 1860.  All of my ancestors were from Germany.    New Braunfels was very much a " German town"  when I grew up.  I spoke German before I spoke English.  I can remember 2 girls who tried to talk to me as a small child and I couldn’t understand them.  I learned English by the time I was 3, but German was spoken in the community even in downtown stores. We spoke German in the home or with relatives. But it was the "Old German language" in which there was no word for new inventions, such as, airplane so they called it a luftschief … which is a dirigible, same for other things, telephones, cars, etc.    Our " OLD" German language  is being lost and someone from the University of Texas has been interviewing people who still are fluent in the language to tape it for the future. 

 The traditions we have carried forth by the few Germans still left here are the music, card games such as Skat, dominoes, nine pin bowling, the interest in the people, we  who go back to the original settlers.  Sadly I no longer speak German.  I married a guy from Philadelphia who didn’t speak German.  He did love New Braunfels and  hearing the German language spoken and the clean neat homes and how everyone would keep a clean yard and home, the church was an important part for many.  Women were expected to use their time and interest in "Kirche, Kinda, Kuche" translated as  "Church, Children and Kitchen," 

 Our traditions are still kept in some homes, Christmas, Easter, and birthdays were all special times with great food and family.  Both sets of my grandparents were German and I do miss the good foods, such as: Pannas (Scrapple), home cured hams, sausage, homemade yeast coffee cake with jelly & thick cream with sugar and cinnamon on top.  Sweet rice as a part of the meal, homemade bread, always.  The women spent long days taking care of the house and garden, and the church activities or the farmer’s wife who also worked in the field, gathered eggs from the chickens and did all this without running water or electricity until the beginning of the fifties for some. W.W. II didn’t allow for getting electricity to the farms. 

 Our town has grown to such an extent that if I find someone who is of German ancestory we usually find someone in our lives who is related  in some way.  We now have many tourists in summer who enjoy our rivers and in winter we have many Winter Texans from the states of the upper mid-west.

 I am blessed that I came from good people who longed for freedoms and were willing to take risks to better themselves in Texas. My name Omie is a German word for Grandmother.  My grandmothers were Oma, and my mother was Oma to our daughter.  When grandchildren came along Mother was still Oma and I became Omie.  But that tradition is fading fast also.  I am the fifth German/Texan living in New Braunfels, we now have an 8th generation in our great grandchild and soon to be more, God willing.

 

 

By Omie from Texas on 05/28/2009 3:37 am
beth willis

Omie, thank you so much for sharing your story.  I grew up and live in North Texas but have had many memorable trips to New Braunfels and Fredricksburg.  Of particular interest to me were the ‘Sunday Houses’, small homes in town for those who lived in the country and chose not to travel home after church services.(I know you know what they are, but not sure others would.)  You’ve a lovely town.  God bless you through many more generations.

Peace and grace

By beth willis on 05/28/2009 11:25 am
Patricia Sprofera
Omie from Texas - Thank you for your rich and loving telling of your family history.  You, and now, all who read your post, are richer for it.
By Patricia Sprofera on 05/28/2009 12:57 pm
Chris Glass`
My father was career military. We lived overseas three different tours, one in Japan and two in Germany. I learned respect for cultural differences at an early age. I suspect that is what led me from Catholicism to Unity because that taught there was truth in all great religions. I have great faith but it is not centered on one culture or belief system. There is truth and beauty in all ways of living.
By Chris Glass` on 05/28/2009 6:30 am
Sam Mirando
I am an atheist Jew, strong on my family’s history (most perished in the Holocaust) and very weak on religious observance.  However, I value both Passover and Thanksgiving because both involve sitting down to ritualistic meal, with many friends, to remember and to give thanks for the fact that we are now in a better place than we might have expected to find ourselves.  Both celebrations involve giving thanks, a fixed menu, and no gifts, with dressing up optional.  What better ritual can you think of??
By Sam Mirando on 05/28/2009 7:10 am
Jeannot Kensinger

Like Chris I ended up in Unity but lately losing it there too. So much for religion. I like to think I am spiritual and leave the religion out of it.

 Family history? well I left the Flanders 56 years ago but the Flanders never left me. I have poppies all around in my house, in paintings, embroideries and in silk. I cook tons of "French" fries.Gravies are my specialties.  I use French and Flemish words for things I never did remember in English and my kids do the same thing. 

My family history is mentioned in our history books going back to Charles V  , we were always in the town of Ghent ,  cobble stones, castles and cathedrals they are all etched in my memory.

By Jeannot Kensinger on 05/28/2009 7:40 am
Bianca Moon
Since I was 16 I have told everyone I’ve ever met that I was Jewish even though I have no Jewish heritage. I was only ever named and my parents aren’t so much religious as they are spiritual. I guess there was something with Judaism that just caught me by the throat and never let me go… it possibly has something to do with the fact that when I was a little girl I stayed with a lady who was in both Auschwitz and Bergen Belsen. She impacted my life far more than I could have ever known at that time…
By Bianca Moon on 05/28/2009 8:29 am
Babette dYveine

I rejected my religion and ethnic background when I was fourteen.  I was brought up in a Jewish household, in a Jewish community, but I never felt I belonged.  I found so much bigotry and hypocricy there, and it revolted me. 

 

I have always had friends of many different backgrounds, and it has enriched my life considerably.  I consider myself "non-sectarian" and I became a Unitarian when I was nineteen — actually I suppose I had been one earlier, but that’s when I found out that there was a name for what I was.  I think religion and ethnicity divides people, and of course, has caused many wars and killing.

By Babette dYveine on 05/28/2009 8:38 am
B Clark
I was raised Catholic, but left as a young adult when I figured out they were more interested in my wallet than in saving my soul.  I’ve got to admit, to anyone hearing about Christianity for the first time (I can just imagine the comments "Gross!  You eat the body and drink the blood of Christ?  What are you, some kind of weird cult of cannibals?") it sounds kind of far fetched.  Yes, yes, it’s all about the symbolism.  I can find some good things in most of the major religions and agree with them  and I can find some intolerable things in most of them too and disagree with them.  By the time a religion becomes an institution, it has little to do with God.  It becomes all about power, money, property and tax shelters.  I still put up a Christmas tree and color eggs at Easter.  At present, I have a great respect for Buddhism.
By B Clark on 05/28/2009 8:56 am
Chrome Toe

hmmm…. definitely no religion. And culture? Not one that’s considered a culture by any means. Although my best friend thinks of my family as sort of the last generation of the "hard west" culture. Loners, hard workers, card players, a little on the edge of legal lol. But the loner part is what makes it disconnected. 

I’ve always envied both the hispanic cultures and the african american cultures. They are so NOT alone. If you’re african american you’re automatically part of something in this country based on your skin color. you have your own way of relating that I envy. A sort of "I’m not alone" type of thing. A rich history of connection that I really missed growing up. There are caucasian cultures that have it. but not mine.

And the hispanic culture…. same thing but a different history. So much connection and family.

By Chrome Toe on 05/28/2009 9:34 am
EKA -

Both of my parents were first generation, parents immigrating from Italy and Ireland and living in immigrant rich Connecticut I was surrounded by the cultures everyday. When I was young the Catholic church was the center of that and I have fond memories of the music and holiday traditions - but never embraced the dogma. I feel equally Italian ( carrying on my grandmother’s tradition of making Italian Easter bread for the family) as I do Irish ( weeping into a pint of Guinness at the sound of Irish songs of longing for the old sod ) 

But I have the feeling that a strong cultural heritage ends after the 3rd generation. My sons are truly American, embracing the varied cultures of all their friends and girlfriends … Jewish, Asian, African American  .. and while they enjoy their Irish/Italian background ( My oldest living in Boston goes to the North End for ingredients for his Sunday Gravy) they really are citizens of the world.

By EKA - on 05/28/2009 10:37 am
Esther Bradley-DeTally

I was a Catholic (RC) from Boston and Irish till I was in my late 20s; It was a heritage which gave me many things, but in 1966 an atheist/agnostic friend said, "If I were anything, I would be a Baha’i, and to my "What’s that" she explained that the Baha’i’s believe you must investigate truth yourself, but it is a world religion, and Baha’is believe in a concept called Progressive Revelation which basically means, in every age, God, who is an Unknowable Essence, sends Prophets, Manifestations, Messengers who brings social teachings for the age and renews spiritual teachings and unfolds to human kind further understanding.  Basically there are, according to this Baha’i, two purposes:  to know and to love God (that involves an ocean of comments) and to carry forward an ever-advancing civilization.  Which boils down to boys and girls, every age has it’s own purpose; Baha’is are followers of Baha’u’llah, Who they believe is the Promised One of all Ages.  As you know, the traditions of almost every people include the promise of a future when peace and harmony will be established on earth and humankind will live in propsperity.  Baha’is believe that the promised hour has come and that Baha’u’llah is the great Personage Whose Teachings will enable humanity to build a new world.

In other words, at the core of every religion is spiritual truth; because we’ve been in our infancy, childhood and now adolescence.  Humankind is coming of age; thus the global disequilibrium and equilibrium. It boils down to the oneness of humankind and service to humanity.  I have been a Baha’i (www.Baha’i.org) for over 43 years.  It has caused me to leave narrowness of belief, to see everyone as a soul, and caused me to be a small bricklayer in the process of building a foundation for justice, love and peace.

By Esther Bradley-DeTally on 05/28/2009 11:29 am