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The Love Goddess | 04/30/2009 11:00 pm

The Forever Marriage?

Dear earth creatures, you no longer are really a nation of married people …

Editor’s Note: Who is the wisest of them all? Who is more dedicated to your pleasure than anyone on earth? Who can help you when you’re going online for the first time to find love; or when your lover’s children hate you; or when you want to strangle your husband? Why, the Love Goddess, of course. She promises nothing less than celestial wisdom, heavenly sex, divine dating. Read on …

In her book review of Andrew J. Cherlin’s interesting book, The Marriage-Go-Round, the first question The New York Times book reviewer, Dinitia Smith, asks in her review is: "Do Americans get married too much?" 

She asks this because Americans have one of the highest rates of marriage of any Western country — and also a divorce rate that’s been rising since the 1960s and now rests at about 50 percent. How can this be? she wonders. How can we idealize marriage so much — and run from it so quickly?

The question has a rather easy answer, despite the complications of marriages and divorces. Idealizing marriage and also being unable to stay in it don’t seem to me in conflict with one another. 

It’s a psychological truth that we put on a pedestal everything that we imagine to be wonderful but that we have lost or are in danger of losing — like, say, "The Cowboy"; "Pastoral Life"; "Childhood Innocence"; "The Good Mother." That’s what idealization IS — making someone or something bigger than life, usually because he or she or it is unattainable. (I’m a goddess. I KNOW about being put on a pedestal!) The more we experience that good thing or person as having been lost to us, somehow — obsolete for whatever reasons, no longer ours for the keeping — the more we idealize it. (Hence, our reverence for the dead — even the dead we never liked one bit.)

The Perfect Domestic Wife (Donna Reed; June Cleaver) now lives on a pedestal we almost can’t even see, it’s so high up there. Ditto the Loving, Provider Husband ("Father Knows Best"; "The Bill Cosby Show"). We increasingly idealize the notion of Family (not our real ones, of course, but the NOTION of it) since, as a nation, we’re less and less inclined to live in one.

And so forth. 

You idealize Marriage most of all, though. Why? Because, you dear earth creatures, you no longer are really a nation of married people! Oh yes, yes, you get married. That won’t stop just because you also get divorced. But the idealization is of the concept; the ongoing, lifelong state of safe, secure, loving union … and that permanence, my friends, is lost to you. However often you get married, in other words, the brutal truth is: For the first time in American history, the majority of households in America are unmarried households.

Which means one thing and one thing only, and it’s not that Marriage is in jeopardy. It’s an institution, and institutions don’t change. The people in marriage have changed, is all, and the loss of Marriage as we imagine it, that Forever Marriage, makes us yearn more than ever for what no longer exists. So, despite the number of times we run away from it, recreate it, hope for it and hate it, Marriage as an ideal will live on in our subconscious minds as the place to be — and will become increasingly desirable as it is increasingly hard to attain.

So of course most of you will marry — again and again and again. Because the ideal lives on. And you will keep trying, not just because you fall in love, but because, as its permanence becomes a fading possibility, as happily ever after becomes harder and harder to attain … it is absolutely certain to become that much more hungered for!  

Like all savvy goddesses, the Love Goddess has her own blog, which you can visit by clicking here. 

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HA BIBI
Hang in there nanchan…….I too was married once before, still great friends but I have now been married to "The One" a most wonderful special man, for 5 years! It happens and usually when least expected. :)
By HA BIBI on 05/04/2009 4:23 pm
nanchan u

thanks, darlin HBB……Your man has to be very cool guy indeed to be worthy of you :) and yes… I"m hanging in there :)

By nanchan u on 05/04/2009 7:38 pm
HA BIBI
Oh nan, Thanks so much and yes he is "Awesome" I met him on the other side of the world and married him there! Your is only waiting in the wings……..He "Will" find you my dear as all diamonds are hunted and cherished!
By HA BIBI on 05/04/2009 8:11 pm
mattie Rhu

nanchan,

What a great observation!  I too feel I am a different person at 46 than I was at 20, when I met my husband. He has changed as well.  It has dumbfounded us, as well as our friends, that we are still together.  We are still in love and, almost more importantly, we still like each other.  I know many couples who stay together but don’t particularly like or respect their spouse.

I am proof it is possible to find a special man who can love someone through the phases of life.  You just have to remember to be the special woman who can love him through his changes.

I don’t believe there has been a secret to our success so far.  It has taken both of us to find compromise through the bad times.  Each of us can handpick moments where our marriage could have gone either way.  Luckily, we were able to figure out the path leading to us staying together.

Don’t give up, it is worth it!

By mattie Rhu on 05/07/2009 11:24 am
Chrome Toe

I have to say that I think the Godess is really onto something here. I think as a nation we are a group of "coveters". we covet. that’s what we do. we want we consume we covet. and the notion of the ideal marriage is just one more thing for us to want. We’ve idealized it in our psyches through every possible way we could. literature, television, movies, songs… But in reality. I’m 45 years old and I’ve only known a handful of people in forever marrirages. and only about 1/4 of those forever marriages were any kind of relationship i would want! and out of those 1/4 marriages that were forever and looked good to me…. they weren’t anything like the ones you see on tv or read about in books. one couple was/is a swinger couple. one couple never vacationed together. one couple never vacationed without each other in 35 years.

What I hate the most about this idealization we’ve got going is how it hurts the women who don’t have it. I have a good friend in her forties whose beautiful, smart, sexy… unmarried and never has been married. she constantly thinks there’s something wrong with her because of it. no matter how hard she fights to be okay. no matter how full her life is or how loved she is by her friends and family. she feels like she did something wrong.

By Chrome Toe on 05/01/2009 9:45 am
Em Edgerton

I’m with Joan on this subject.  We toss everything into the garbage that we don’t value because we know that we can just get another.  There is very little in our culture these days that promotes a message that to repair and maintain is of greater value than just getting something "better."  It’s not that our culture doesn’t have the talent or means to provide something of lasting value, it’s that  advertising rules and therefore the predominant message is one of replacement, replacement, replacement. 

I had a microwave oven that needed a minor repair.  No one had the replacement part.  I could order a part from overseas where other countries apparently value the idea of repair rather than pitching into a landfill.  Because I am a tenacious and enterprising person I persevered and finally found a part which I then had to modify with tools that I happened to own.  There were times when I just wanted to send the oven to the dump because it took so much time and effort to get the repair made.  

As a culture we reflect what we value.  If we don’t value marriage, then we don’t stick with it.  In my own life after 25 years of marriage my husband bailed out because it was no longer useful to him.  He has replaced me with lots of wonderful "stuff" and is out from under the bother of having to make an effort.  He throws out whatever he doesn’t like anymore while I am the sort who will make the effort to fix and repair until it’s no longer feasible.  It’s what I value.  When this man had less money he was more interested in making an effort to maintain and repair and to make an effort.  I don’t miss him because we don’t share the same values any longer.

When our culture shifts in the direction of valuing repairs and maintainance and making an effort, we will cease to throw out so much of what doesn’t gratify us so easily.  We will then become less shallow people.  Having an economic downturn is not such a terrible thing in some respects and while some people will not behave well under the stress of their lives, others will come to see the value of living more creatively and sharing the challenges these times may offer.  

By Em Edgerton on 05/01/2009 11:10 am
joan larsen

Welcome Em!

Your most thoughtful and deep comments showcase your great skills in thinking and writing.  You are a joy to read … and to nod in agreement with.  Stay on with us as you will have a lot to add!!!  Joan

 

 

By joan larsen on 05/01/2009 4:40 pm
milli van

there’s 3 sides to every story your’s his and the truth. why wasnt the marriage useful to him? did you cook for him? nurture him? did you tell him you loved him everyday? did he tell you. sometimes men dont feel appreciated. Men dont have to support us women we can support ourselves. Did you complain to him on what a bad mate he was? are you self centered wanting him to wait on you hand and foot? Most women think that a man should know what she wants when in fact they are clueless. What kind of effort was he supposed to do? Why cant a man just be…why does he have to be superman, super lover, super provider?

So you can only "love" someone with the same values as yourself? HUH? Throw out the micro its made overseas and its junk anyway. You sound shallow and superior. 

When a man isnt appreciated he either wanders or leaves. There are plenty of beautiful loving caring affectionate compassionate females on the earth.

You are alone for a reason. are you comparing yourself to the broken microwave that with alot of work you can be salvaged? When was the last time you told him that you appreciate him? or do you think compliments should just be lavished on you?

You sound a little off. I’m all for saving money, but c’mon girl…old fashioned ways are nice for a man a clean house a good meal a nice romp in the hay a compliment…its not an effort to make your man feel special. how does one live more "creatively"? making a home cooked meal for a change ? youre way out in space. He left for a reason you just havent figured it out yet

By milli van on 05/04/2009 8:24 pm
Lizzie R.
My generation stayed married. Everybody I went to both high school and college with is still married to the same person. I have been married 57 yrs. to the same man. We’ve survived 30 yrs. in the in the military, with all the seperations,and moving about every 2 yrs., the death of our youngest son, and much, much more, both good times and bad times. Our son and daughter are children of the Woodstock generation, complete with all that went with it, including our son with his long hair, living in a commune in Hawaii, growing their own pot. They drove us both crazy then, but we survived that era. Now both of them have been married to their respective partners for 35 yrs., which is quite unusual for anybody from that generation of marriage/divorce. So, it still happens, but not too often anymore.
By Lizzie R. on 05/01/2009 1:53 pm
Cindy Figorski
Nothin is forever, and I do agree that marriage is easier to be disposable than to truly both partners work together, its much to easy to get a divorce than to get through the hard times, and still come out married to the same person. It takes work on both sides to make a marriage work.
By Cindy Figorski on 05/01/2009 2:12 pm
Deena B.

When I was in high school I swore I would never marry - or if I did it would be later in life.  I did, in fact, marry young and we have been married for eons!  I guess you can’t predict when you will meet the right person.  I really got lucky in that regard.  Thank goodness, because I think changing relationships as often as some people I know would be exhausting for me.  My husband and I are, and always have been, very different people.  But it works for us. 

By Deena B. on 05/01/2009 2:48 pm
Suzette Walker

Someone wrote… you In life, you only get out of it what you put into it … and that goes for work or pleasure or love.  If that were true there would be more long marriages such as yours.  You are lucky, but in the real world everyone does not have the same outcome, that does not mean that they didn’t work hard, it just does not happen for everyone!

By Suzette Walker on 05/01/2009 2:51 pm
joan larsen
Suzette … You are so right.  .  . as my children gave their all, being like their parents, and after more years than you might believe, their marriages ended.  I see it in my friends’ families — "forever" can be only a short time.  But the other thing that bothers me is the emphasis in writing that each of us has to "work on our marriages".  We’ve never "worked" or thought about it … but instead "played" and still do - being exciting and surprising and achieving independent goals and making each other so proud.  But again — what works in the private world of a marriage is different for each — and some things are not meant to be.  Sadly.
By joan larsen on 05/01/2009 4:37 pm
milli van

i was raised in a family that divorce wasnt ever spoken about ,although my parents should have been.   my grandfather made sure that my mother couldnt marry her sweetheart, so she married someone else to get out of the house (@21 yrs old)

 She took her resentment out on us kids when we were growing up. And she was a screaming maniac. those two people should have never gotten married.

Now all of us kids are either with people we dont want to be with or we stick it out for the sake of whatever. We learned by example albeit a bad one. 

By milli van on 05/04/2009 7:46 pm
joan larsen
Milli … I know that most marriages now have a financial issue in place that makes making a move out the door much much more difficult … but you come on strong here that perhaps you need to be the strong one and begin to think about, get counseling, and make a move forward and NOT stay in that marriage.  Rarely - if ever in all my years do I see a marriage of some years that has not worked suddenly catch fire.  We can’t forget the past and know there is still the real chance of a bad re-run in the future.  Life is too short to not step out the door — and I don’t say this lightly — but with quite a bit of life behind me and a deal of wisdom.  Change and choices are there for you … as they are for us all.  Get help and get out.
By joan larsen on 05/04/2009 8:42 pm