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Liz Smith | 10/29/2009 12:00 am

Tip Big Around Liz Smith

Liz Smith
How people treat waiters, cab drivers and others who are in service positions. Lack of common courtesy is a big tip off to me.

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F Fox
It is interesting that what you cite is exactly what is cited on a marriage advice website run by someone that I have professional respect for. He suggests—which I think is excellent advice—that when dating someone who may be a marriage prospect, one not go to events where the two people merely stare ahead in silence, like a concert or movie, but go to places where there is a lot of interaction and then watch how the date handles just what you referred to—the "service" people, and others. This will show what kind of a person he/she is underneath, not just the charm he/she shows to impress a date, and will predict future behavior.
By F Fox on 10/29/2009 5:22 am
Nancy Pea

that kind of thing impressed me into "jumping over the broom" with my second husband back on 03, unfortunately it didn’t stop me from breaking the darn broom in 05. my "gentlemanly" husband would tip over the top, open doors, take out the garbage, walk on the outside of the sidewalk, pay for everything and nicely help others. but with him it was all control. i found this out after about 8mos of marriage. it turned out he had a drinking problem, a gambling problem and an ego big enough to sink a ship. after i broke up with him i found a shirt and bought it because it so said just what i felt. "i divorced my husband for religious reasons, he thought he was god and i didn’t!" (he thinks he is the emperor of reno, considering i think he is homeless, i don’t know how he keeps up that logic? lol).

i guess he was just a really good actor and i was too blind and in love to see his problems until the pressure and stress got so gad it almost killed me. so remember that is a good way to think. but also look behind it, to make sure it’s not just to impress you, but something he/she does b/c they care. 

By Nancy Pea on 10/30/2009 1:20 am
Lindy Finestein
My daughter was a waitress in college.  She over tips as I do.  I am so happy I did not have to do that job.  As a moonlighting high school teacher working at Macy’s in NJ, I was treated like a dope.  I have a Masters degree and taught Business at a Community College also.  However, the women buying jewelry thought I was beneath them.  Funny.
By Lindy Finestein on 10/29/2009 9:10 am
Bonnie Schuster
I tip according to the action.  People who serve us in anyway; if they smile and speak to me get a big tip.  If they are sullen and lack a dazzical at there work not so much. 
By Bonnie Schuster on 10/29/2009 9:57 am
Nancy Pea

i totally agree with you bonnie. i tip as i see fit. some ppl tip for everything, no matter what the service. i will tip if my server has gone out of the way to be friendly, attentive and nice. if somebody isn’t up to my high standards and they require some sort of tip, i will give them 3 pennies per person. i do this because, leaving no tip might not phase them because i know ppl that NEVER tip. they just don’t believe in it. that is their perogative and i refuse to treat them any different than those who do tip. also some ppl tip just a little because they only have a little to tip. when i’m in there shoes i always let the person i’m tipping know that i wish i could have given more.

anyway, i ramble. back to the penny tip. if you leave a penny per person that waiter will never forget you. i usually tip the bus person a $1 and tell them that the penny tip was to teach them how to be nicer. everytime i did that i got a look of pure satisfaction from the bus person because believe me they know what kind of wait ppl they have to deal with and usually like it when that message is passed on. it’s to teach them something, that they might never learn, but at least i feel i got a point across.

By Nancy Pea on 10/30/2009 1:26 am
Cindy Marek

Yep. And by that I take you to mean "in general." I was a good and efficient worker at McDonald’s during college; and I was often stunned at the number of other "regular folks" who’d waltz in with a Royalty Complex and God (or they?) help you if an unwanted pickle was on their hamburger!

If a person is doing a good job, if it’s honest work, and another person (rich or poor doesn’t matter) treats them like dirt? *They* are the scum.

Another personality indicator for me is how one treats their pets/animals. Of course I’d report negligence or abuse; but I also steer clear of people who treat animals better than fellow humans.

Or perhaps Abraham Lincoln said it best: If you want to test a person’s character, give them power.

By Cindy Marek on 10/29/2009 11:31 am
DENISE FELTS
People need to treat others as they wish to be treated. The service industry is very difficult because of the type of people they have to put up with on a daily basis. People tend to forget that regardless of their social status, they should treat all people with respect and dignity.
By DENISE FELTS on 10/29/2009 12:03 pm
Mary Quite-Contrary

Amen Liz.  Amen.  Its how people treat those ‘who you aren’t supposed to notice’ that you need to notice to see what type of humanity they possess.

Honest.  I work in customer service relations…basically dealing with making customers ‘happy.’  It has taught me more about human nature than any college course ever could.

Want to know alot of subtlies about a man you are dating?  See how he speaks to the waitress/person at the box office/conceirge/etc.  Not how they wine and dine you!

By Mary Quite-Contrary on 10/29/2009 1:42 pm
Bobbie R.
I agree, if you are taught respect in your childhood it shows. I like to watch people when they don’t know I watching.  I think its more important to treat others with respect  when no one is around. That’s character and truth.
By Bobbie R. on 10/29/2009 3:19 pm
Carol Harrison
Lack of basic manners, courtesy and respect.  My spouse and I were in his SUV today and he got rudely cut off by a woman who just didn’t care!  I was raised with manners….excuse me and thank you.  My spouse wasn’t and unfortunately, I sometimes have to remind him. His mother, when she was alive, would just pass in front of her biological children, no excuse, no BLANKING nothing!  When one is raised like that, they tend to do the same and it doesn’t occur to them, that they’ve done anything wrong.  The society is live in, is so fast-paced, there’s no longer time for daily manners and consideration.  I agree with everything that Bobbie R. has said.  Lack of manners and consideration, really stresses me out.  I get so frustrated and want to raise my voice and say something even if the offender ignores me.  I’m not afraid of confrontation but my spouse is.  He’d rather get angry at someone else’s behaviour.  That’s not me.  I won’t put up with what I observe from others.  "That’s character and truth."  That’s also showing maturity or….just plain ignorance.
By Carol Harrison on 11/02/2009 7:49 pm
Mary E. Sayler
How you speak to someone is only one part of respect.  I find that how they (male and female) talk about others behind their backs is even more important.  I stopped going into the Teachers Lounge for breaks after about ten years because of the horrible things I heard the other teacher’s saying about their students and the parents of those students.  They also did the same with their co-workers behind their backs.  I decided that I didn’t want to hear it anymore.  I knew who was worthy of my time and those were my friends.   
By Mary E. Sayler on 10/29/2009 3:41 pm
Nancy Pea

i’m a really tough customer. i expect great customer service and really get pissed off when i don’t get it. but i also gave great customer service when i worked in those jobs. in fact my resume said "excellent customer service". i used to just stop giving my money to places with bad customer service. now i do more than that, i take it to a manager or the head of the company if i have access to them. because i believe that how you treat ppl, reflects on your company and yourself. i expect great customer service because i ALWAYS gave it.

i worked for a bus company for 6yrs. i got compliments left and right, because unlike some of my other coworkers i didn’t take everything personal. if a person calls with a complaint about a bus driver, a fellow call center worker (i worked in the call center giving out bus and train schedules, taking complaints and routing ppl all over the san francisco bay area) or called in a threat i would handle it with calm sincerity.

they weren’t mad at me personally. they were mad at the bus driver, the train conductor, the call center worker that ignored their feelings, etc. i took the time to let them get it out of their system and soon they were apologizing to me for yelling. but i also saw that they had reason to yell, because NOBODY wanted to listen to their problem. maybe i couldn’t do anything about it. but i could at least listen to find out.

most of the time they would hang up without making the complaint becuase they just needed to let off steam or they still complained but they felt better about having to call and yell at somebody. so when somebody says, "they don’t pay me to listen to this BS!" i say, but they do! i think of it this way, we were paid pretty good for what we did and my job description said and duties as required. so i just figured that was a duty required and it made me feel good to make somebody feel a little better at the end of a hard day! 

By Nancy Pea on 10/30/2009 1:37 am