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Question of the Day | 09/17/2009 5:00 am

Are there certain topics about which you think men and women will always disagree? What are they? Why won't we ever agree?

Joan Juliet Buck, Liz Smith and Joan Ganz Cooney on the battle of the sexes. Join the conversation … 
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Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 09/17/2009 12:00 am

Does Joan Ganz Cooney Believe That Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus?

I’m not sure I believe that. All men aren’t alike and all women aren’t alike. People are forever surprising me with their open-mindedness and unexpected positions on questions and issues. Individuals (maybe not whole groups) have changed and many times it’s for the better.
Joan Juliet Buck

Joan Juliet Buck | 09/17/2009 4:45 am

Joan Juliet Buck: His vs. Hers

Money.
Sex.
Clothes.
Best friends — their use, care and feeding.
The definition of the word ‘friend.’
The correct length of phone calls.
The need to give lavish presents.
The need to receive lavish presents.
The orgasm, as proof and trophy.
The swallowing of certain substances.
Drugs.
Alcohol.
Saturated Fats.
Driving speeds.
The location of our destination.
The location of the laundry basket.
The location of that pair of socks.
The location of the spare lightbulbs.
The last known location of my pearl necklace — and your good watch.
What constitutes a skid mark.
What constitutes fidelity.
What constitutes a one-night stand (two nights).
What constitutes a fattening meal.
What, technically, is a lie?
What constitutes "Looking Fat."
What constitutes "going out for a little while."
What constitutes "Late."
The amount of time spent on work.
The amount of money spent on "Maintenance."
The smell of "Fracas."

 

Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 09/17/2009 4:30 am

Liz Smith on the 'Brilliant' Joan Juliet Buck

I don’t think anybody needs to bother to answer this question after Joan Juliet Buck’s dissertation, which I find quite brilliant. But then, you could go and catch her bit in "Julie and Julia," where she is the horrid Cordon Bleu head bitch, and realize all over again how brilliant she really is.

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Bonnie O
It is the man’s job to get rid of any and all crawly insects and to do it immediately!  It is the woman’s job to manage the lost and found within the confines of the household.  Once these delineation’s are set and cemented into place, a debate on any topic may begin …each knowing that the spider climbing up the wall will soon be dealt with and the car keys, blue and gold tie, and fingernail clipper will be easily located.
By Bonnie O on 09/17/2009 6:53 pm
John G
Excellent, B O! However, I am quite terrified of arachnids. I take the hands-off approach: hairspray over a lighter = cooked spider.
By John G on 09/17/2009 7:11 pm
kermie b

Centrum television commercials make me livid.  They go a little something like this:  "for all the things made just for women," they show a lipstick, a swimsuit, etc., and then they hawk a vitamin made "just for women."

The corresponding men’s vitamin commercial shows a power drill, a recliner and a backyard grill—"all the things made just for men."  I am excellent at using power tools, I can sit in recliners, and I have barbecued carrots (don’t knock it until you try them) on a backyard grill.  How could I possibly do these things?  Those items are just for men!

Whoever came up with those commercials is an idiot.  I would never buy their product now, not that I ever did before.  The world is not split up that way.

It pisses me off when any commercial reduces women to stereotypes.  

By kermie b on 09/18/2009 12:45 am
Carrie On
I recently went on a road trip with two girlfriends, and my boyfriend asked me what kind of car my friend was driving.  I said, "Beige, I think…" Otherwise, I had no idea.  Then he asked me what kind of shoes my friend was wearing, and I said, "They were black leather thong sandals, with a gold medallion in the design of a Chinese character on top of the thong."  He rolled his eyes.  He never notices shoes, and I never notice cars.  He is baffled by the fact that when we leave an event and go to the parking lot, I often walk toward the wrong (silver-colored) car because they all look alike to me.
By Carrie On on 09/18/2009 3:04 am
kermie b
Carrie On—You made me laugh.  I am the same way. 
By kermie b on 09/18/2009 10:09 am
C jay
Differences? I’m not sure it matters any more than differences between women. People are people, and depending on their paths in life, are different. Maybe we all would benefit from simply letting go
By C jay on 09/18/2009 5:35 am
Lena B

Don’t you think the differences make it so interesting C?  Diversity of mind is a beautiful thing.  It’s a continuous process of learning new ideas and hopefully modifying your own.  I’ve learned so much from men, more than I have from women in my opinion.  When I watch a movie or play, I usually identify with the male character.  I don’t know why.  I love and respect my sisters, but I don’t have a sororial ( I made that word up ) bone in my body.  Being here on Wow has been a huge benefit to me; I’m learning from some of the most amazingly intelligent female minds.  Before I post a comment, I read the entire thread and the knowledge and wisdom shared here is outstanding.  Thank you sisters!

By Lena B on 09/18/2009 10:33 am
C jay

Yes, Lena - I love diversity period, and missed it terribly when I moved to the SW. I was raised in a highly diverse region, and then went on to grad school in one, too - which doubled the pleasure of "diversity of mind," as well. It is something one never stops seeking, and benefitting from - in fact, I was just talking to a friend of mine this AM about that very topic. We were both tranplants and sorely miss open communication, and as he said, as a physician,"fighting like hell in a meeting, or in the hall about a patient’s care, but coming out ‘the other side’ still colleauges and friends… just cannot happen here."

 

By C jay on 09/18/2009 1:05 pm
C jay

Yes, Lena - I love diversity period, and missed it terribly when I moved to the SW. I was raised in a highly diverse region, and then went on to grad school in one, too - which doubled the pleasure of "diversity of mind," as well. It is something one never stops seeking, and benefitting from - in fact, I was just talking to a friend of mine this AM about that very topic. We were both tranplants and sorely miss open communication, and as he said, as a physician,"fighting like hell in a meeting, or in the hall about a patient’s care, but coming out ‘the other side’ still colleauges and friends… just cannot happen here."

 

By C jay on 09/18/2009 1:05 pm
kermie b

In my experience, generally, when a women has a problem, and expresses it to her girlfriends, they listen and commiserate.  When the same problem is expressed to a man, he tells her exactly how to handle it, what to do and when, and sits back, satisfied with himself, unable to comprehend the woman, staring back, underwhelmed by his arrogance. 

Oh please, tell me you have never run into this scenario, people.  There are exceptions.  Glaring, jaw-dropping, exceptions.  When I was laid off from my job, my sister called, told me, "do this, this and this, and then get rid of your apartment in the city and come live with me Upstate."  

She couldn’t believe it when I burst out laughing at her insolent seriousness—she has tried to run my life since we were kids.  It didn’t happen then, and it isn’t going to happen, ever. 

Living with her is not an attractive prospect, never mind that my boyfriend of 15 years is in the city too, and I would never leave him.  He sat and listened (and poured the Pinot Grigio) when I lost my job, thereby reversing the roles.  

So, I guess it is a guideline, not a rule.  And my gay guy friends are just wonderful about this time in my life—the best of both worlds.  There are always folks who will support me emotionally no matter what.  They are not the ones who tell me to disrupt my life and move; they are the ones who listen and pass the Pinot.

By kermie b on 09/18/2009 10:52 am
Lee Harrison
Guns and war.
By Lee Harrison on 09/18/2009 4:10 pm
Katharine Gray

Beg to differ with Lee.  I know a lot of women who love guns. For hunting, for target shooting, and for personal protection.   As to who loves war…General Sherman said it was hell and so it is and I can guarantee you that all of the men (and women) serving in our military would agree with General Sherman. And I know of NO woman who is not mentally, substance, or conscience  impaired who would hesitate to shoot a gun if she had it to protect her home and hearth.   But maybe they aren’t making women like Melanie Wilkes anymore. 

Fortunately, I am married to a man who in our 24 years of marriage has left the toilet seat up no more than 3 times.   So I cannot complain on that score. 

But…and I’m sure I’m repeating someone…there is a male gene which will NOT ask for directions no matter how lost they are (thus the invention of the GPS which fascinates all men to no end…even to the point of looking at it instead of the exit sign and thereby missing the exit) and the refusal  to use public restrooms to do number 2 (and a disinclination to use any other toilet seat but their own for the same process).     It took me awhile to figure the last quirk out but I finally did.  They DONT WANT  TO SIT ON A STRANGE TOILET SEAT

Well, really, who does?   Unfortunately, we have no choice and are left with the toilet paper/toilet covers of previous occupants who have failed to fully flush them down….or the remants of the squatters who have preceded us.  Despite these numerous contacts with the unknown we manage to live longer than men on the average.   Oh well. 

Oh…a third thing…you have a system worked out to do something (doesn’t matter what it is) which is something that men don’t normally pay attention to but they get bored one day and decide they have a more efficient way of performing the task.   And they critique your system.   That is a bit annoying.      

 

By Katharine Gray on 09/19/2009 3:24 am