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Conversation | 07/01/2009 11:00 pm

The wOw Conversation: Why Do People Put Up With Abuse?

Margo Howard joins Joni Evans, Mary Wells and Joan Juliet Buck to dissect the mystery of abuse and the psychology of the abused.
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JONI: Margo, you recently noticed this little comeuppance that you were so gracious to put on the Web. You had made a casual remark to a woman who had once been abused

MARGO: Yes.

JONI: – and had started up with another abuser, and you wrote something along the lines of, “How could you do this twice?”

MARGO: I said, “What a slow learner.”

MARY: What did she do? What did she say?

MARGO: I got the most marvelous letter, and I’m still in touch with that woman. She was very well spoken, well educated, had come from a fine home, i.e., a privileged home, and she wound up in the shelter system in New York, getting away from an abusive husband. At first she said, “I was highly offended by that slow learner business.” She said, “Let me educate you.” She said, “What you live through is what you know, and if you’re abused as a kid you will go on to be an abuser. And then she told me her situation – how, because there was no other option, she was absolutely thrown back into the arms of her abusive husband, from whom she finally fled. And there was a question about her daughter, because she said the system in New York was broken, and she couldn’t get any help. Nobody was coming through. And I misunderstood something. I thought she was afraid for her daughter. I said, “Let me get you a lawyer in New York.” And she wrote back and said, “No, I’m done with the court system. That’s not the problem.” But we kept going and I thought I should say something, because I’m reasonably savvy dealing with people’s problems and also being 114 years old. The fact that I did not understand, really, the crux of the abuse situation embarrassed me, and I thought, “Look, if I don’t know, there are other people who don’t really get it.” And I owe this to the people who read me for information to go further with this. And I hope that wOw makes it their cause somehow.

There’s a lot of anger in depression, and there’s a lot of mistreatment of people, and there’s also a lot of disinterest in people who are helping.

MARY: I read somewhere recently that close to 70 percent of the women and about 50 percent of the men in the United States have had some sort of child abuse. Not necessarily physical, but the kind of abuse that you carry around with you like a backpack all your life.

MARGO: “You’re not good. You’re worthless.” I had a letter about that. A father was verbally abusing a little boy, grinding him down into nothing, and I told the mother she just had to get out.

MARY: I think there’s a lot more awareness of it now than there used to be, just as there’s greater awareness of clinical depression, and depression in general.

MARGO: Yes, Mary’s right. The figures are astounding. I read some of the same things and I couldn’t tell you exactly where, but the numbers are enormous.

MARY: One of the big issues in this article was why people don’t leave when they start with people they can see are going to have a very long road ahead with depression. There’s a lot of anger in depression, and there’s a lot of mistreatment of people, and there’s also a lot of disinterest in people who are helping. To know you’re going to have that all your life is frightening. And then there are all the people who are physically abused, and the big issue is: Why don’t they leave?

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L. C.

 I’ve studied Domestic violence for many years, written and spoken out against it. It is a very personal subject for me. My sister was beaten to death by her husband. She was thirty-seven years  of age. If she were alive todday she would be seventy-six.   A high school friend was shot to death by her husband (four shots to the back of the head.) She was finally going to leave him.

Battering is the greatest single cause of injury among U.S. women, accounting for more injuries and deaths than auto accidents, muggings and rapes combined.

Nearly 4,000 women die each year as the result of domestic violence.

Domestic violence is not confined to the poor or to certain races and ethnic groups, but is prevalent throughout society.

Domestic violence is emotional, or physical abuse, or the threat of physical abuse, between family or members including: Spouses, Former Spouses, Parents, Children, Stepchildren, Other persons related by blood, In-laws, from current or previous marriages, Persons who live together, Persons who are dating or have dated or been engaged, Elder abuse and Persons who have disabilities and their caregivers.

Physical abuse includes Slapping, Pushing or poking, Kicking, The twising of any limb, Pulling hair, Biting, Choking, Shaking or throwing someone around a room, Any form of restraint, Rape, i.e., forcing someone to have unwanted sex. Physical violence includes the  use of Guns, Knives, Blunt instruments and Any other weapons.

Emotional or psychological abuse can take on many forms and patterns. The sole purpose of the abuser’s actions is to dominate, manipulate, and control another person. The abuser can act out in the following ways. Name-calling or yelling, Using of angry expressions or gestures, Humiliation, either in public or private, isolation of the victim from family and friends, Accusations of infidelity, Constant belittlement of another person, Constant questioning of the other person’s judgment or decision-making abilities, Threatening to leave, Threats to the children, Accusations of insanity and Ignoring or minimizing the other person’s feelings.

The abuser will often keep close tabs on every penny you spend, giving less than you need to buy groceries, keeping track of the mileage on the car, not allowing you or the children to seek needed medical attention, witholding medication and failing to assist with child care or housework.

The warning signs of coming abuse: A use of alcohol or drugs, A desire to have sex for the wrong reasons, Insistence that you do things his way, Clinging to you constantly, Drawing you away from seeing family or friends, Threats to commit suicide if you ever leave him and Unpredictable behavior.

Women remain in violent relationships for many different reasons. They stay because of their children. They stay for economic reasons. They stay because their lives have been threatened by their abusers if they leave. They stay because they have been beaten into submission. This means they have been emotional, psychologically and physically beaten to where they no longer have any self-esteem. They believe they are worthless, ugly, unattractive to others and no one could possibly want them if they were to leave. They believe their abuser is the only one who loves them. This has been ingrained into their psyche. There is also whats known as the honeymoon period. This means abusers will shower their victims with gifts and beg for forgiveness. This can last for a week, a few days, a day or less before they return to their abusive behavior.

Abused women will leave their abusers four to five times or more before finally leaving permanently.

Abuse does not only happen among hetereosexual females and males. Abuse takes place in homosexual relationships as well. Women are not the only persons abused.

Men are abused by women but are often ashamed to admit  to being abused for cultural reasons. Men are taught to be macho from the time they are little boys. They will not call the police for fear of being ridiculed and made to feel less than a man. Culturally they are taught never to hit a woman (and rightly so.)  Some men will leave the relationship and others will remain and their battering continues.

Historically, domestic violence was not taken seriously. When the police arrived at the door. The abuser wastold to take a walk and cool off. It was viewed as family business. Today laws have changed. It is taken seriously. Even if the party refuses to press charges. If there are signs of domestic violence the abuser can still be arrested. 

By L. C. on 07/02/2009 6:08 am
L. C.

Women who are illegal immigrants keep silent. They fear both deportation and their abusers. 

*Book List

"Keeping The Faith Guidance for Christian Women Facing Abuse" by Marie M. Fortune 

 "Lovestruck Realistic Help for Battered Wives and Bruised Homes" by Catherine L. Scott

* "Battered Into Submission The Tragedy Of Wife Abuse In The Christian Home" by James Alsdurf and Phyllis Alsdurf 

 "Mad At Miles A Blackwoman’s Guide to Truth" by Pearl Cleage

* "The Battered Woman" Lenore E. Walker 

 *"Mejor Sola Que Mal Acompanada Para la mujer Golpeada" by Myna M. Zambrano ( Billingual Edition/Edicion Billingue)

 * "Defending Our Lives Getting Away From Domestic Violence & Staying Safe by Susan Murphy-Milano (Founder Of Project :Protect)

For anyone who is being abused  contact Domestic Violence Hotlines in your area. Your local Police Department, 911 and 311. There is help available.

YOU ARE NOT ALONE!

By L. C. on 07/02/2009 6:45 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Excellent post, L.C. and helpful. One size does not fit all. One person’s history and/or experience with abuse is just that––one person’s account. But there are patterns and there are ways of recognizing those and getting help.  Thanks again, L. C.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 07/02/2009 12:58 pm
C jay

L.C. don’t you wish … in Dallas a year ago (worse now) a young woman could not be helped by any of the shelters - they had no room! She tired. Eventually, someone phoned me 400 miles away now …

I have spoken on violence since the 1970s, and we must be honest, and truthful to those listening. There are far too many variables right now to merely tell women to contact the DVA  in their area. We must make laws that stop abusers, and also maintain shelters 24/7.

Shelters are not maintained because women volunteer! If women demanded what they are worth monetarily, this too would stop. I am a huge advocate of volunteerism and help form the nation’s largest program on that, now, however, the crux of the problem is like RAPE, we just wanted to stop it - and women gave their time and hours to do so, but today even that is not enough.

I’m from a long way back in that history, believe me. A book could be written on what I have witnessed, experiences, and seen with my own eyes - including dead women, infants beaten to death, limb by limb, with cigarette burns covering every spot on the precious skin - no area without a methodical burn. I’ve listened to judges granting custody of children to "the father," because they crushed their spouses bodies so badly they were hospitalized under police protection - and I was hauled out of court many times, insisting on humanity (I always contacted UPI, my backup!).

Interestingly, there was a recent time when leaving one’s spouse wasn’t the "Christian thing to do," and it went on and on, and on.

I well remember the day a sheriff phoned me, while I was speaking and consulting in another state, to tell me, "Honey, it’s a felony now, we did it!"

Not yet, we didn’t do it - because those who make the laws are doing it, still.

 

By C jay on 07/08/2009 12:12 am
Anne Senk
Hey L.C.- what thorough and important information!!!  Let’s hope it helps even one person who needs it!
By Anne Senk on 07/08/2009 12:28 pm
Messy ONE

The fact that many people don’t know is this; The leading cause of death among pregnant women in North America is murder by their spouses or significant others. 

By Messy ONE on 07/07/2009 10:40 am
F Fox

The moon is in Scorpio so it’s no wonder that the wOw staff came up with this abuse discussion.

One problem is that although some people fit the full profile of the classic abuser (or abusive personality), there are other people who simply have abusive components in their personalities. They can be just as destructive, maybe moreso, because they are not so clearly recognizeable. I did have one boyfriend—not for long—whom I called "Dr Jekyll and Mr Freckle". ‘Nuff said.

By F Fox on 07/02/2009 7:04 am
Roseann Parker
I was raised with plenty of physical abuse, and vowed I would never allow that from anyone again.  I was married about 6 mos. when my husband hit me for the first and last time.  I packed and left within a week.  I have made plenty of other mistakes in choosing  whom to love, but never again have i been abused physically  in my 65 years.  Some people do learn.
By Roseann Parker on 07/02/2009 8:08 am
Chris Broersma

I too was raised with abouse, both physical and verbal and mental as well…from my other with my dad turning a blind eye to the whole mess.  The bad thing was that all the family and friends never supported the five of us and we all felt it was probably our fault.  We five have come out very disfunctional - at best.  I spent so many years in therapy.  I have dealt with depression, but it was learned from mom not inherited.  

By Chris Broersma on 07/06/2009 10:53 am
Elizabeth Parrish
I don’t think there is any one pattern of behavior that leads to abuse. Not everyone who winds up in an abusive relationship was abused as a child or witnessed an abusive marriage on the part of their parents. Abuse in its many forms crosses all the lines that we draw among ourselves: race, class, economic status, etc. I don’t really know what the victim’s Achilles’ heel is that makes an abuser hone in on that particular person, but I suspect that self-esteem issues are at the heart of the matter. Abuse can be an insidious creature that slowly creeps up on you without you even realizing it until you find yourself in the middle of an abusive relationship and getting out is not always as easy as packing your bags and leaving, not when there are children involved or limited economic resources or a legal system that doesn’t do what it’s supposed to do. My best friend warned me about marrying my ex-husband, though I don’t think either one of us realized at the time that he had the potential to be abusive; still, there were certainly issues and red flags, and I put my blinders on. To her credit, after the divorce when I reminded her that she had indeed warned me and that I had not listened to her advice, her magnanimous response was, “There but for the grace of God go I.”
By Elizabeth Parrish on 07/02/2009 8:39 am
F Fox

"I don’t really know what the victim’s Achilles’ heel is that makes an abuser hone in on that particular person, but I suspect that self-esteem issues are at the heart of the matter."

I don’t agree with you here. I recently looked at an abuse website where an author—I think a researcher or clinical person—pointed out that often an abuser will choose an organized and kind person who is basically not keyed in to look for warning signals. So, the person, let’s say a woman, does not have to be insecure, she simply is not psychologically alert, or what therapist Clarissa Pinkola Estes in her book "Women Who Run With The Wolves", which I highly recommend, refers to as the naive girl with the too-good mother.  This mother is a metaphor for how a woman is raised. Women who were raised without a real knowledge of evil can be duped fairly easily. This is also because they are inclined to be very forgiving where others would pull up the drawbridge.It would be great if everyone had a mother or other significant close person who taught one how to watch out for bad people, but not everyone has this, and that’s pretty much what life hands us. It’s not a sign of character deficiency. You just have to learn about the bad guys some other way.

By F Fox on 07/02/2009 10:19 am
Elizabeth Parrish
F Fox: You make a very valid point and I seem to remember reading what you wrote about somewhere, but I had quite forgotten it. Better not to.
By Elizabeth Parrish on 07/02/2009 11:17 am
L. C.

Elizabeth Parrish

Please read my post. I’m glad you freed yourself from this abusive relationship.

By L. C. on 07/03/2009 3:11 am
Deniseann Taylor

When I was a child I was verbally abused, sexually abused, raped, the whole nine yards.  I couldn’t leave becuase I was child.

Coming from an acholic home I wasn’t sure what having a good family upbringing, I got out as soon as I could.

Because I was a good enabler and co-dependent to these people I married a man who was also abusive, excep he didn’t show it until we were married.  I loved it when he got orders overseas, because it gave me a break from his verbably abuse.  And a husband can rape his wife, he just keep it to our selves to keep the family together for the sake of the kids.

It’s only the last seven years that no one has had control over me (control in every aspect of life).

It’s hard to leave when you have kids, because no matter what many people say, it’s hard to walk away with no means to support your children on your income alone.

The only reason I never reported it to the police is because the military doesn’t tolerate abuse, and he would have been put in jail, and no matter what anyones says you have to do what is right for your kids.

he never abused the kids and I never let them know what was happening, when he got orders to another state, the kids and I didn’t go with him and the last 7 yrs of the marriage my kids and I didn’t miss him at all, but I made sure the Marine Corp knew the situation and they made sure he paid the mortage, and anything else that was needed.

I’ve been divorced for 7 yrs and once in a while we have to interact becuse one of the kids got married, and other family obligations.

He’s was alousy husband, but since the divorce his’been good father, and I beleive it’s totally out of guilt.

By Deniseann Taylor on 07/02/2009 8:46 am
L. C.

Deniseann Taylor

I am glad to learn that you are now divorced(free.)

However, I would encourage every woman who is abused to leave as quickly as possible.  There is a plan for escaping ones abuser. At the end of my response to your post I will post it. Many remain for economic reasons as you stated several times. Deniseann Taylor what good is money if you are dead? … What is more important than the psychological, emotional, spiritual and physical health of ones children? There is financial assistance available.

By L. C. on 07/02/2009 11:34 pm