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Q & A | 07/08/2009 12:00 am

A Conversation With Keneisha Sinclair: A White Woman Learns About Black Hairstyling

wOw’s Executive Intern Ann Hodgman addresses with her friend the realities of race and hair.
By Ann Hodgman

Editor’s note: Ann Hodgman is part of the wowOwow Executive Intern Program, where experienced editors learn a new skill from our younger, Internet-savvy staff.

Over the years, I’ve watched my friend Keneisha Sinclair’s hair go through endless transformations. One month, it would be relaxed. A couple of months later, it would be braided, with extensions. A couple of months after that, it would be a cloud of ringlets. Since my own white-person’s short hair has basically had the same blah, Mommy-ish layering for 30 years, I love watching Keneisha’s hair morph into a completely new look every time I see her.

Keneisha’s younger than most wowOwow.com readers — she just graduated from Yale — but she’s not too young to have plenty of strongly voiced opinions about female self-image, both black and white, in our culture. (In fact, her college thesis was about female body image.) So I figured she would be the perfect person to ask about black hair.

And I had a lot of questions. Transcribed, our conversation ran to 48 pages! Here are some of the (ahem) highlights.

It sounds as though black girls' hair issues are like white girls' weight issues.

ANN HODGMAN: When I was a little girl at sleepaway camp, the main concern of the black girls at camp was whether their hair was straight — not how it was styled. Do you feel as though "straightness" was the guiding aesthetic for black hair for a long time?

KENEISHA SINCLAIR: Yes, I think so. Especially for little girls, there’s this idea that their hair should be straight and long. But that’s just not the way black hair usually is.

ANN: When did you first start thinking about your hair?

KENEISHA: I didn’t really think about it for a long time because my mom always did my hair for me, and she was really good at it. So I don’t think I thought about it until I wanted to get it relaxed — maybe third grade.

ANN: You had your hair relaxed in third grade?

KENEISHA: Fourth grade. The rule was, I was supposed to wait until I was 13 — but I couldn’t wait anymore. Finally my mom said OK.

ANN: Why couldn’t you wait? Because white girls had straight hair? 

KENEISHA: No — I wasn’t even thinking about it in those ways yet. Having your hair relaxed was what grownup black girls did, and when you’re ten you want to be very, very grown up. (That was the year that I put all my Barbies under my bed.) I wasn’t thinking about it like, "Oh, this is a beauty ideal because of white culture." Not until I was a little bit older did I start thinking about it in that way.

ANN: What’s involved in getting hair relaxed? "My people" don’t know anything about this.

KENEISHA: It’s a really, really frightening process, which is why my mom wanted me to wait. But parents even do this to kindergartners, which is awful.

ANN: Oh, my God. Do they still use lye, like in The Autobiography of Malcolm X?

KENEISHA: No, a relaxer is a little bit more humane at this point, but it’s still really frightening. You get this white creamy stuff, which is the relaxer, put on your head. It’s chemicals — some kind of terrible, low-PH chemicals. You sit there for as long as you can handle it, and then it gets washed out.

ANN: You mean you sit until you reach a certain level of pain?

154 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Belinda Joy

Your story you shared breaks my heart. To this day I have grown women as associates who use the term "good hair" and "bad hair" and when I press them on it and question why at the age of 45+ they are still using such shame-filled terms, they label me as being "overly sensitive"  Each race has their identity issues they struggle with, talk about among themselves but don’t want to be discussed in mixed crowds. As is the case for countless issues we discuss on WoW, this is one I think is healthy and informative to discuss. But I must admit some of the responses make me cringe, pull back in anger and resentment, label those I don’t know with labels that may not be justified. But then again I do the same thing if we are talking politics. :-) 

Latinos want to be White and more often than not will say they have a "German" mother (when they don’t) - Asians want to be White, they have surgery to have their eyes widened and rounded and their noses adjusted - Blacks speak about their curly hair as if it is a sin, talking about how they must have their relaxer "cause their hair is gettin’ nappy" and Whites…..I have known 3 couples in my life that "literally" prayed to have blond blue eyed babies, with the belief that they would look better and get farther in life.

It just breaks my heart that so many people were damaged as children. Instead of a steady stream of positive reinforcement they had to endure negativity. I’m confident to the point of conceit on many levels. But it is this internal strength and self assurance that helps me survive the stares, glares and inappropriate comments. I wish I could infuse others with the confidence I have. I feel for those who don’t see their true beauty and value.

By Belinda Joy on 07/08/2009 4:59 pm
Jennifer Michaels

I do read the posts by you, Belinda Joy when I see them, and they cause me to retreat and think.  Later I come back to post and usually don’t respond directly to you but there are probably many people who come away from your posts and think about what you’ve said.

"What color are you?"

is it my skin that you know?

that holds my child?

hopes and dreams for him

and sings him to sleep at night?

Is it my hair that reads bedtime

stories to my daughter?

We all love, we all mourn

we all cry… does it matter

if my skin is ebony or Khaki or cream?

does it matter if my hair is curly

or straight when the nurse saves your life? 

IT DOESN’T ONE BIT

skin and hair matters little when

someone stands on foreign soil

for us and keeps us safe at night.

and it doesn’t matter when

you are in the grocery store either.

Light and water and flesh and blood

make us Americans to the bone.

For Belinda and JLK and the rest of us:

the King made us exactly who we are and that is beautiful!

By Jennifer Michaels on 07/09/2009 7:25 pm
Victoria J

Belinda Joy… You make racist ill informed statements about others as though you know what you are talking about. I hope most who read your posts, understand your hyperbole and your self-righteous belittling attitude are about your ego and have little to do with bringing real light to the subject at hand.

By Victoria J on 07/10/2009 9:36 am
Victoria J
Jennifer, its not always a black and white thing. Children at that age want to be the norm, whatever they perceive that to be. My parents and one of my two brothers and myself were light-skinned African Americans and my youngest brother was very dark skinned as was one of my grandmothers. As a child, he always felt slightly different, mostly because black folks have a color problem within their own communities. So it’s not just some bi-racial kids who are seeking a comfort level. Racism and race permeates far too much of how we see ourselves and others in this country.
By Victoria J on 07/09/2009 12:46 pm
J. Young

Ok.  Here we go.  "A White woman’s discussion with a black woman about hair…"

Let me break it down for you,the real deal. Because of racism by "white peoples…" black hair was made to be looked down upon.  Because of this attitude by racist whites, blacks adapted this mentality.  Because blacks were forced to live in a racist society and were bombarded with images of their racist oppressors, blacks emulated the images that they were constantly shown through the media, remember the black doll/whitee doll test?  Yeah right on.  During the revolutionary ‘60’s blacks learned like the pigment of their skin that they had the most resilient hair on the planet.  It is strong enough to withstand any and all changes.  It can be fried, dyed, and petrified and still we look good…to borrown on Ms. Angelou’s poem and still we rise.

There is no mystery and I just had to educate Ms. Liz on another topic concenring blacks and Michael Jackson!  PLEASE.  Stop trying to negate the black woman and make it seem as if she hatees her hair.  Black women LOVE, LOVE, LOVE their hair and we now know we can wear it anyway we want to wear it, with lot’s of black pride.  Why don’t we have a conversation with a white woman about why she has envy of the black woman or women of color…Governor Sanford anyone?   ARe you feeling me?

Nuff said 

 

 

By J. Young on 07/08/2009 4:51 pm
Jennifer Michaels

You see, I just watched O’Reilly trying to get away from the dissecting of Michael Jackson and now his estate, final resting place, speculation on his bottom left front tooth…whatever else they haven’t covered or have covered while he was alive.  What did I hear from O’Reilly in 5 minutes with Al Sharpton?  If Michael Jackson was an African American icon, why didn’t he have black children?  I am indeed appalled especially coming from those deemed christian conservative. Then heard We are the World uncredited as being civic mindedness and I guess the rest of Jackson’s songs. Apparently O’Reilly only listens to accordian music or something.  We must discuss race among us.

I am listed as caucasian, I look caucasian but have studied my history and was no longer able to pick a single race on the census.  Generation X is where we begin to see the Civil rights movement results.  We are small  but we lived among one another knowing that racism was wrong.  In fact, I’d like to thank the Children’s Television Workshop for all their help prior to school and after school with Sesame Street and other programs.

The reason I replied to your post J. Young, is that for some reason is that there is a degree of hype in your post. I agree with the idea of black pride but there is revenge in that mindset.   If one says, "white pride’ or "white power" it evokes images of Adolf Hitler or hate groups…like embracing being white is something that should be illegal.  No, it is not.  Martin Luther King, Jr. aimed high, much higher than survival of the fittest or self-promotion.  He aimed for the promise of equality.  Something that is born with us and had the courage to demand it peacefully.  An idea that throughout history hasn’t ended well for its promoters.  It scares the haters and they always end up freaking out on the peaceful leaders.

How one interprets a message is more about who they are inside and should not automatically assume their feelings are correct. For instance, if I get tired of writing and use my former employer’s slogan in a post because I text the 3 words where u at? to my children regularly it merely means I felt comfortable on the website. If I have a caucasian looking face as an icon it doesn’t mean I am responsible for something heinous when my ancestors never owned anyone of any race.

Now, that being said I’ll go further.  Would you believe that a curly headed caucasian would "feel" being called a n***er repeatedly growing up?  It happened.  I had brown eyes and curly blonde hair and every time certain people wanted to hurt me that’s what they would say because I liked the black garbage man when I was 3-4 years old he was friendly.  I liked Martin Luther King when I was 8.  I am convinced that racism in any form is something we are taught and it is up to us who are conscious of this fact to fix it.  My voting record isn’t exactly public. If we need truly formal posts, please let me know though.

I am staying in the deep south and I will still hear (despite my lack of social standing) people of color address me as Ms. and my first name.  What the hell is this?  It makes me cringe.  Explain that to me. I want an article on this phenomenon and an honest discussion on race not one biased on either side.

.Done

By Jennifer Michaels on 07/08/2009 8:37 pm
Jennifer Michaels
Can I get an edit button please?!  Discussion maybe, but a forum that’s what we need.
By Jennifer Michaels on 07/08/2009 8:50 pm
Victoria J
Jennifer…just what do you think an honest discussion on race looks and sounds like? You just explained who you are…well you have a point of view as does every single black and white person in this country.  I will bet each of our stories diverges just a bit from the previous experience of another person the other person presumbably most like us. So how do we get honest, when each of our stories is probably more truth than not and has shaped our views?
By Victoria J on 07/09/2009 1:46 pm
Jennifer Michaels
I guess there are few on this site who grew up in the south.  The overidentification of my experiences was an attempt to personalize the need for help.  How many of the people who live in some populous and some not so populous states south of the Mason-Dixon line, are discussing these issues online.  I got one chance in my past to be a part of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Commission but that time was cut short by other problems we face here.  As it is now living under the unseen cloud over the South, I’m open…I’m sure that people of other ethnicities are open to one another but our churches are still segregated, our beauty shops, our night clubs, our air is still segregated.  Move on down to the south, then try to focus on Kenesiha’s hair when you know if you comment on the beauty of a black woman’s hair you may simply get a cold stare, because we don’t trust one another down here….still to this day.  Not under the cloud we live.
By Jennifer Michaels on 07/10/2009 1:00 pm
Jennifer Michaels
we live under.  Yeah, that’s what it should say?
By Jennifer Michaels on 07/10/2009 1:02 pm
Amy W

I’m white and address anyone that I don’t know well or that is older than I am by very much as Mr. Or Ms. and thier first name (last name if I haven’t been specifically invited to call them by their first name). It’s being polite and respectful. It bothers me when children of any race address me simply by my first name, and I will correct them, just as I correct my nieces and nephew if they do not address an adult of any race as Mr. or Ms. 

 

By Amy W on 07/15/2009 2:10 am
Jennifer Michaels
It has been my experience in church and other places that the "manners" creep up out of this context that has been described.  That’s the only thing that bothers me.  Those few times stick out and it made me wonder if there was still an undercurrent of white above black with some people.  I do understand the manners, although I would call Mrs. Anne Smith, "Mrs. Smith" not "Miss Anne". Sorry, I don’t oppose manners or the parts of the south I love, you just know it when you hear it.
By Jennifer Michaels on 07/15/2009 9:57 am
Victoria J
I am not sure the interviewee did the subject justice so don’t just snark of the interviewer!
By Victoria J on 07/09/2009 12:47 pm
Belinda Joy

J. Young, and there in lies the reason why I considered this topic a "3rd rail topic" because as you (clearing my throat) pointedly expressed, the subject of Black hair is indeed tied directly to racism and decades of self hate.  So discussing this issue if you don’t want to get involved in nasty exchanges, we must tip-toe around the racism connection.

I may not be able to relate or express myself in the manner in which you do, but I do applaud your bluntness in stating the obvious. Where you and I disagree is the generalization that Black women love their hair. I think among a mixed group of races on this conversation, many will say they do. But privately they still comment on "new growth" "their kitchen" (for those who don’t know this term it means the hair in the back of your head at your neck) and the constant comment about those women that "choose" to go natural as being less attractive.

I’m living proof of a Black woman that wears my hair any way, color and length I want, without the slightest care of what others think. But how I think on this subject and those around me and in my family….I am in the minority. (My opinion) most Black women in public speak loudly of self confidence and pride, yet in private the don’t show the same bravado, it is almost always to the contrary. My guess (sadly) is many Black women and girls even in 2009 would still pick the White doll.

By Belinda Joy on 07/08/2009 6:12 pm
L. C.

Belinda Joy

Both you and J. Young are correct. I made the generalization as well that Black women love their hair.  Perhaps, I should have spoken specially about the women and girls I know. The women and girls I know who have been raised to love, admire and respect themselves and their culture. Women who have started "Rites Of Passage" organizations to instill ethnic pride and to teach them from whence they came and how they got to this present place. It’s true  there is a difference between what is said in private and mixed company. Sadly in 2009 there’re  those individuals who would still pick the White doll.

I learned in the 1960s that the way in-which one wears one hair or dresses does not matter. It is what one  feels inside and the pride and respect one has for ones self. Style is individual. I will say in all honesty. If I see a Black woman wearing a blond wig and blue eye contacts I am going to view this as more than individual taste. I’m going to start the analysing process. I would really like to just accept that as taste and it could be. However, based on this nations history I’d have to delve deeper. I have to know the Why? It’s probably professional my training.

By L. C. on 07/08/2009 7:10 pm