Elizabeth-All the matrix; votes, delegates, committed super delegates say Obama is the presumptive nominee barring a miracle. How is that something the media and the public won’t discuss?

Beverly—My opinion is that someone who didn’t know that Conrad Black is a major NeoCon. A man who like Rupert Murdock helps to provide people like the Coulters/Rushs/Richard Pearls/Robert Novaks their platform to lie us into the monstrous debacle that will take generations to payoff…..isn’t well informed. Black’s trial and prosecution and his import to the NeoCons was news on more than this continent. What is happening in this country isn’t ANY different than when the Nazi’s had Gobbels and Goering in charge of propaganda and disinformation. Hitler couldn’t have happened with an informed citizenry and in a more activist nation. That’s what our Founding Father’s said remember? “A Republic if you can keep it.” An actual free and informative press. Hitler’s propagandist were on the docket at Nuremberg, tried and convicted too for tricking the masses into illegal, immoral invasions. Sound familiar? I think ill-informed people are irresponsible and have blood on their hands too. I suggest you read ‘War is a Racket” online…it’s short and it’s free. The NeoCons aren’t new, and they aren’t conservative. They are as old as time and evil as hell and the media that takes it’s talking points from the WH is a propaganda arm. We are losing this nation, the Constitution, our Bill of Rights, not because of 911, but by calculation and design. And with the lazy public abetting the culture of distraction, too ill-informed to draw connections, thus perpetuating the doctrine of chaos and disaster capitalism. The Freepers are a programmed, robotic army of disinformation that has aided and abetted the sweep of wealth and power from the masses into the coffers of a few, and to foment the needless $3T illegal invasion, with the million innocent dead because no logic or facts got through the NeoCon lunatics control of the airwaves and their 24/7 disinformation. We could have been solving the Climate Crisis for a fraction wasted in Iraq. But we can’t do that with an energy policy written by Exxon/Halliburton. The Pentagon 2002 report “Abrupt Climate Change” reads like a horror film. And now we are with the ice caps melted beyond what was predicted 30 years hence. There is so much at stake, and very little sense of urgency. I have worked my behind off at great cost to me for the past 7 years to try and help save our nation and am shocked by the myopia, and inability to make cause and effect connections here. So you go ahead and feel complimented on your priorities while America slips away. And if you dislike the national discourse now it’s not going to be very civilized if what the Pentagon’s report predicted happens, and it will, because we have a too dumbed-down nation. Let’s add it up. 1) In an earlier post you directed the comment to me that you haven’t voted, as if that had some relevance to me. 2) You didn’t know a major US story, ie Conrad Black, the import of it to the NeoCons. 3) And you haven’t contributed an actual idea on the topic of the thread, except that we should all play nice here, although this topic is burning up the airwaves and blogs and will continue to. If Democrats do not stop being wishy washy enablers. If they can’t look back in history with a wide scope view and see the paradigm in operation now. If they can’t get their priorities straight, and take actual action, then the US as we know it will be over. Are all your citizenry contributions as negligible as the ones on this thread? We get the government we deserve. Citizenship isn’t passive. We need a generation of very informed people, heroes and activists. Otherwise, I hope you enjoy the America of the future, civilized it will not be. As far as William F. Buckley goes apparently you’ve forgotten his brawls with Gore Vidal. We lost that level of programming, except for the Bill Moyers and Charlie Rose types, with the Fairness Doctrine that Reagan undid, allowing the publicly owned airwaves to be consolidated into the hands of self-serving pirates like Conrad Black and Rupert Murdock. You are not getting it that this is a cultural war. Hannity is a mouthpiece of the right, he said today that what is needed in a new “Contract ON America.” I hope that’s clear enough. How polite do you think the OTHER King George found Thomas Paine? A Republic if you can keep it. Think about. And if all that comes to mind is visions of white gloves….then just..you know…join a bridge club while Rome burns.

Beverly, This is what is happening on the national airwaves, and across the country and blogosphere. Why do you believe it would be different here? And why do you characterize something happening across the nation in female terms? Read “When Democrats Go Post-tal” from Vanity Fair this month. http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/06/wolcott200806 And then maybe also read Arianna Huffington’s RIGHT IS WRONG…..and see what has happened to our “media” by having the lunatic fringe in control of Rush-Savage-Coulter, etc, and how it has deteriorated the national discourse, oh and then there’s tensions over that phony $3 trillion war that’s destroying the very foundations of this nation. Rather than sanctimony, get a dose of REALITY. This country is in a cultural war. What is feeding it? The world is in upheaval, how did that happen? This is a Transformational Age more than at the time of the Industrial Age, and closer to the American Revolution. What will be the result and what factors will make that come about? If the political talk is too much then maybe step out of the boiler room. Or at least state your objection as your OPINION instead of MORE PUT DOWNS, which is what you were objecting too because then it is merely hypocrisy. “I believe the ladies who started this magazine for us should keep a copy of all these comments for punishment for the next five years.”—I’m sure they have nothing better to do. This is about as schoolmarmish as it gets.

“Recapturing America’s Moral Vision”-Robert F. Kennedy …There is another great task. It is to confront the poverty of satisfaction-a lack of purpose that afflicts us all. …We seem to have surrendered community excellence and community values in the mere accumulation of material things. Our gross national product…counts air pollution and cigarette advertising, and ambulances to clear our highways of carnage. It counts special locks for our doors and the jails for those who break them. It counts the destruction of our redwoods and the loss of our natural wonder in chaotic sprawl. It counts napalm and the cost of a nuclear warhead, and armored cars for police who fight riots in our streets. It counts Whitman’s rifle and Speck’s knife, and the television programs which glorify violence in order to sell toys to our children. Yet the gross national product does not allow for the health of our children, the quality of their education, or the joy of their play. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages; the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials. It measures neither our wit nor our courage; neither our wisdom not our learning; neither our compassion nor our devotion to our country; it measures everything, in short, except what makes life worthwhile. And it can tell us everything about America except why we are proud that we are Americans…” We’ve had over two decades of Bush/Clintons. Of the 173 nations, America is number 48 in infant mortality, 72 in overall health, 44 in freedom of the press, 55 in literacy. We have $3 trillion dollars in debt. That’s equal to spending $100 million 365 days a year for 82 years, or $1 million a day for 8,219 years. Of the 18 countries that produce 80% of the world’s emissions, we are the largest contributor. 5% of the world’s population we produce over 25% of the waste including throwing away 100 billion plastic bags a year equal to 12 million barrels of oil. Bill Clinton is largely responsible for the WTO and NAFTA, on his watch important banking ‘fire-wall’ protections in existence from the early 1930s were disappeared ALLOWING the massive frauds of Citigroup, Enron, World Com, etc, and the extremely dangerous growth of unregulated derivatives which are essentially bets based that Warren Buffet called “sewage” that soared from $9 trillion in 1999 to $700 trillion today when our GNP is $14 trillion and the world’s about $100 trillion. The subprime mortage debacle happened because they based in billion dollar pools of subprime derivatives…and now we have nearly 20 million vacant homes in the US and the largest foreclosure crisis in history. What America excells at is selling arms, we are the biggest arms dealer in the world. Imprisoning citizens, more of our citizens per capital are in prison that any other country on earth, we have more women in prison than anywhere else. We outspend all other countries on the military: http://www.truemajority.com/csba/priorities.php All of our money is being poured into Iraq, a country that we illegally invaded, illegally occupy, a country that doesn’t want us there. And when a mere fraction of what we are spending there could help resolve the Global Warming crisis that should be #1 on everyone’s list….otherwise our children and grandchildren are going to have a miserable quality of life with endless resource wars. Al Gore says, at the end of this short vid that shows how dramatically the polar ice caps have melted, we need to become a Hero Generation. http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/243 That is the appeal of Barack Obama—he is a change and a hero to the young. I am done with everything that is more of the

Thank you for your work Renata—-truly a pleasure to read your posts.

Mugsy, Having been a FORMER big supporter of Nancy Pelosi, AND living in her District…as far as I am concerned she is a coward and a disgrace. Not only for LAUGHING in the background at a dinner where Bush made SICK jokes of not being able to find WMD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjXPOxnu2N8 WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL, SICK, CRASS, DIABOLICAL, AND INHUMAN DOES SHE NOT UNDERSTAND? A Profile in Courage she is not. Thomas Jefferson Thomas Paine, Daniel Webster, JFK she is not. I USED to be a big fan. It is her RESPONSIBILITY to Impeach the Bush Administration UNDER THE LAWS OF THE CONSTITUTION. It is not her election to take Impeachment off the table. She is a disgrace and I pray to god that she and Reid are soon gone and replaced with people who understand the CONSTITUTION. I will never forget or forgive that you fill in the blank for laughing at that CRASS DISGUSTING EVENT THAT A PERSON WITH A BRAIN AND A HEART WOULDN’T HAVE ATTENDED. I CAN JUST IMAGINE THOMAS JEFFERSON OR THOMAS PAINE LAUGHING AT THAT OR IGNORING THEIR DUTY TO PROSECUTE WAR CRIMINALS—-AND THAT’S JUST ONE OF THEIR CRIMES. IT’S REALLY SAD TO SEE THE DISCONNECT. HOW FAR THIS NATION HAS SUNK.

Mugsy, Nancy Pelosi’s RESPONSIBILITY under the CONSTITUTION is to IMPEACH the Bush Administration for crimes. That was the message of the mid=terms. It isn’t her JOB to ‘take it off the table.” Hopefully she and Reid will be gone. They don’t know how to stand up to the NeoCon thugs. She is a coward and a disgrace.

Alessan-And now California is having buyer’s remorse.

Ms. Dee, I love physics too. It seems to me you already have an ‘A’ in understanding life…the other degree will be a cinch for you! Congrats!

Mugsy, When I saw Pam Martens name on that piece was wondering why it sounded familiar….then remembered when I was managing large scale projects for Wall St. firm in my first job…she was making news for being a whistle blower in an awful WS case…so now she’s doing insider type stories. Here’s her story: http://www.observer.com/node/46807

Mugsy, I wonder why that isn’t listed with OpenSecrets—generally so reliable. The groups Pam Martens references are reliable too…hmmmm. Will go off and do some research. Thanks.

Renata- EXCELLENT!! “The world is crying out for America to TURN THE PAGE! In a strange turn of events, they are rooting for us to have courage and embrace our own future. They are joining our children in this matter. What we (boomers and boomer women, in particular) choose to do — will affect them all.”

Beverly-Conrad Black is a total NeoCon and is headed to prison for 6 years for fraud. His empire is in ruins, as is his reputation. Yes he did write that bio and others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Black

Beth, Nancy Pelosi’s 8th District is Nob Hill, Russian Hill, Marina District, Presidio, Financial District, North Beach (Little Italy), China Town., etc. Even 50/50 male/female. 50% white, 25% Asian, 15% Hispanic, 8% African American. Double national income. Yes, lots of very rich, in general highly educated, but also working people. To me that looks close to a cross section. of US…and having been to over 300 US cities and towns I’d say very representative of broad base. Most of those neighborhoods are working people. Certainly people with the same concerns as rest of the county: economy, Iraq, jobs, health care, education, environment, security. So, we’ll see….

James..We’ll conflate Jurassic grandpa’s total lip-lock of Bush policies. You know..the ones that has Bush out-polling Satan by wide margin by Assoc Press. Campaign posters awaiting captions: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/12/28/ap-poll-bush-1-villain-of-2006/ http://kmareka.com/wp-content/BushandMcCain.jpg The bloggers will go commando……head’s up grandpa.