gator, where were YOU while bush and cheney surveilled countless ordinary americans without warrants? where were YOU when they tortured prisoners and renditioned them to other countries to be tortured. the constitution did not just arrive as bush was leaving office.

liz, why all the vitriol for investigation of exec pay and perks when that money could have been used in a health care oriented health care system to keep alive the 18,000 americans who died last year due to lack of health care?

dawn, american children are raised to compete, europeans far less so. the europeans are raised to cooperate with each other. if we survive the next couple of hundred years, it will be because we cooperated with each other.

a good article by a former president of the united states and current elder of the world citizenry:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/12/jimmy-carter-womens-…

au contraire, deber: obama campaigned as a left leaning visionary, but he has governed as a centrist protecting bush’s worst illegalities. hopefully, eric holder will defy his boss (that would be obama) and appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the torture policies and practices of the leaders of the bush administration, even though only the lowest level of soldiers have had to pay for it so far.

don’t ignore the chamber pots idea. for flush toilets we need BOTH water and sewage systems—both of which require taxes to build and maintain.

you argue this as if the arguers had full rights. neither side does. it is like us criticizing ghetto people for self destructive behavior when we were the ones that put them into that trap in the first place:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/12/jimmy-carter-womens-…

i respect and admire christiane amanpour, lesley stahl, and fareed zakaria. we need them all. i seek out their work, even to the extent of coming to wow to read it.

kelly, why do you admire cheney’s assault upon reason and our constitution? obama, on the other hand, THINKS before he acts, and he seeks participation from all sides before deciding upon an action. i do hope obama reconsiders his "prolonged detention" idea, however. holding people in prison without charging them with a crime is just plain WRONG!!!!!

wow is lucky to have the participation of countrywoman, elizabeth bennett and phyllis doyle pepe, for three.

hi, jane. i heard about your caretoon and came to wow to see it. nowadays that’s a long trip. i echo maureen’s response.

when i came to wow in april after charley rose discussed it with some founders, i thought it was great. now i think it is an insult to the accomplishments of many women who actually do celebrate international women’s day to call today the anniversary of wow. there are so many real feminists who have made consequential changes that it hurts me to realize this bowdlerized wow is what its own founders think is a worthwhile website. editorial discretion alone should get the "nobama" out of liz peek’s headline. now is the time for all of us to pull together to get us out of the financial and legal swamp that dubya bush dragged us into.

obama supporters are stunned that you so oppose him that you will bring the entire country down with you in order to rebel against him. after all, you are in that country, too.

yes, countrywoman. i am interrupting my boycott of this site to write this. joni, i am subject to attack here for who i am. you need to make this site safe for its members by creating and enforcing adequate standards of civil discourse. as a guide, i suggest you watch rachel maddow and see what she will not do to anyone. or, in radio, there is diane rehm. i used to come to this site daily. now the toxic comments and pointlessly controversial headlines repel me. if this site responds to this crisis in a positive, effective way, i suspect all of the disappointed former members will return.

eleanor, perhaps you remember some of the bigger anticonstitutional acts: they were done by your buddy, george w bush. there’s a lot of mucking out to do in the federal government these days.

liz, you are so straightforward and sensible. the madonna part almost put me to sleep. how many times has she reinvented herself?